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      CommentAuthorwarrenellis
    • CommentTimeNov 30th 2007 edited
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    Right now, I'm calling it Obama/Bayh for the Dems, and Guiliani and the ghost of Idi Amin for the GOP.

    What do you say?
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      CommentAuthorAriana
    • CommentTimeNov 30th 2007
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    I know it makes no sense at all, but I've still got a sneaking suspicion we're going to get this:

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    Six cans of Red Bull says he gets flushed in mid-Jan.
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      CommentAuthorLee Newman
    • CommentTimeNov 30th 2007
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    Edwards would not suprise me, the US isn't ready for Obama or Clinto (and really who wants Hilary anyhow), the republicans will be the ex mayor or the actor.
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    If Biden can be trusted, I think he'd be alright as President. But that is the question, isn't it?

    I bet it'll be Clinton/Kucinich just to throw us off for the dems, and I hope to God it's not the case but, Rudy/Paul for the reps. Either way, we'll still be Yanks getting screwed...
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      CommentAuthorAriana
    • CommentTimeNov 30th 2007
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    You know damned good and well I'm not dumb enough to ever bet against you. I've just got a sneaking suspicion is all. Based on nothing more than a vague notion that he's the aesthetic the Dems probably don't want to admit is wanted, really.

    And there's no way I wasn't going to find a reason to post that photo.

    (No doubt on Guiliani, obviously.)
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    Well, I'm not betting yet -- I don't bet until after the nominations. But I'm convinced Bayh/s waiting in the wings.
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      CommentAuthorgdwessel
    • CommentTimeNov 30th 2007
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    Bayh would probably be more likely to be a running mate of Hillary, if his being part of her Iraq entourage is anything to go by.

    That said, Bayh being on the ticket would already swing one Red State into Blue territory, regardless of Clinton or Obama (Or, please, Kucinich?) being the nominee.
    • CommentAuthorKinesys
    • CommentTimeNov 30th 2007
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    I think the DLC is massively underestimating how pissed off the progressives are and how mobilized they are. Dean won't and i suspect you might see a groundswell of real support for Kucinich this time around, whether he can ride it out is another question. I will say he's got way more stage presence than Nader ever had. I think if Edwards wants to be a real contender, he'll make some deal with Kucinich. Right now both are flying under the radar, Clinton and Obama are under the GOP microscope so anything they do wrong is going to be blown up into the first few pages of the book of Revealations by the GOP base.

    As far as the Grand Orifice Party is concerned, Most of them are acting like they are playing a zero sum game anyway. Mccain of all people probably has the broadest support. He's like everybody's third choice. I look for Ron Paul and Mitt Romney to flame out at some point. Guiliani is just throwing good money after bad at this point.
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      CommentAuthorMike Black
    • CommentTimeNov 30th 2007
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    I know I'm a dirty Libertarian/Constitutional Republican and subject to ridicule, but Ron Paul will run as an independent to keep pushing the ideals of the former Republican party in the face of the Neo-Cons. Hopefully he can force the smart ones to stop fucking around with the Religious Right.
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    I expect: Clinton and Giuliani (and fear for the already horrible state of American liberty). I hoped, for a while, that the recent exposé of Rudy's trysts would have had some sway over the "moral majority" and put him out of the race for good. Then I recalled the average attention span of my countrymen (board denizens excluded, of course ^_^) Time will tell. No clue for veeps, yet.

    I would prefer: well, I'd prefer to be my own autonomous entity shuttling around the galaxy meeting strange new life forms and generally not bothering anyone by proxy. I'd prefer to be the first human to walk naked on the surface of Mars (and live, mind). Even independently wealthy operating a small science lab dedicated to finding out exactly what Nikola Tesla was really up to would be nice.

    But as far as politics...Obama seems the most theoretically-successful "I could vote for him/her" candidate to me at this point. Kucinich and Paul...well, a ticket with both of them (either way, really) would be interesting for a number of reasons. It'll be interesting to see how strong Paul's campaign remains if he doesn't get the GOP nod (which in my mind is still quite the long shot).
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    For once you've given me a glimmer of hope, Ellis. Do you feel well?
    • CommentAuthorKinesys
    • CommentTimeNov 30th 2007
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    It worried me mightily that Kucinich was worried enough about his campaign to consider Paul as a running mate. Hopefully this will put the boots to that.
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      CommentAuthorgdwessel
    • CommentTimeNov 30th 2007
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    Wow, a man many consider to be the "ONLY HOPE" for the GOP against the neoCon hordes that have taken over is, SURPRISE!, a racist anti-Semitic paranoid fuckstick after all. Quelle surprise.
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    Still think its going to be Clinton for the Dems. I rather see Obama or Edwards myself, but I will vote for whoever they cough up.

    The right is harder to say, Guiliani seems a safe bet, but scary-as-crap Huckabee looms in the background and Romney seems to still have traction despite the fact the RR thinks Mormon's are scary. Thankfully Thompson's campaign seems still born.

    I still have bizarre hopes a Guiliani run will make Bloomberg throw his hat in...
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    Hmm. Bears further research. Obviously an unsupportable position if it is his, but preliminary searching suggests that it may not be (see final paragraph).

    More info as it arrives, of course.
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      CommentAuthorMike Black
    • CommentTimeNov 30th 2007
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    Ron Paul's not going to be playing in 2008.

    I got nothing....

    Other than "To point Republicans back to their Constitutional roots, this isn't really going to do much. He's only stealing votes from Republicans, than, isn't he?"
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      CommentAuthorC.c.
    • CommentTimeNov 30th 2007
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    I sincerely doubt Edwards will get the nomination. My vote goes to Obama, but he's got a road ahead of him. It's too soon to make any proper guesses, but I throw my favor to him.
    • CommentAuthorCaBil
    • CommentTimeNov 30th 2007
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    I don't know about Giuliani, he finally may have hit a scandal he can't shake. Because it is the kind of scandal that American news people love. It has waste of money, something that appeals to people's selfish interests, he tried to hide it, which lets people know that it was wrong, and it involves sex, which is pure ratings gold. The only thing that would make it better was if she 18 year blonde, so they could splash the photos all over the place like they did with Gary Hart.

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