Whitechapel - Grow Your Own Meat Without Animals2013-05-25T02:28:42-07:00http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/
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Grow Your Own Meat Without Animalshttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190553#Comment_1905532009-09-25T11:39:50-07:002013-05-25T02:28:42-07:00hemotomaniachttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3559
Apparently we no longer have to go through raising and slaughtering animals just to obtain tasty, tasty meat. The Cocoon, a concept cooker that grows meat and fish from heated animal cells in a ...
The Cocoon, a concept cooker that grows meat and fish from heated animal cells in a process that looks disturbingly similar to magic animal growing capsules. Full article here.]]>
Grow Your Own Meat Without Animalshttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190556#Comment_1905562009-09-25T11:45:09-07:002013-05-25T02:28:42-07:00Fanhttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=6919
It says,
The meat's muscle cells, nutrients, and oxygen are heated for a preset time, and voila, delicious meat is born, sans the whole killing animals part.
In addition to preventing animal ...
The meat's muscle cells, nutrients, and oxygen are heated for a preset time, and voila, delicious meat is born, sans the whole killing animals part.
In addition to preventing animal slaughter, the cooker is designed to address food shortages around the world. It's a controversial idea, to say the least, but it could also be a quick and easy way to get nutrients from meat products to populations that often have unhealthy diets.
I wonder which "populations that often have unhealthy diets" they're thinking of? Why not just eat the nutrients?]]>
Grow Your Own Meat Without Animalshttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190560#Comment_1905602009-09-25T11:49:33-07:002013-05-25T02:28:42-07:00RenThinghttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=155
Ok, but, at least for beef, the fact that it comes from an animal isn't necessarily the appeal. A good steak is many more things than just meat, such as the age of the cow when slaughtered, the ...
Would meat grown in this fashion have all of the same nutrients that came from a living animal?
Yay for possibly adding another arsenal for combating food shortages but I don't see this replacing my rib-eye anytime soon.]]>
Grow Your Own Meat Without Animalshttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190569#Comment_1905692009-09-25T12:13:37-07:002013-05-25T02:28:42-07:00ian hollowayhttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=6961
i think i'll stick with my tofu.
Grow Your Own Meat Without Animalshttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190573#Comment_1905732009-09-25T12:37:46-07:002013-05-25T02:28:42-07:00oldhathttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=75
Hasn't this been pitched for a couple of years now? I remember reading ages ago that they were planning on doing something like that for astronauts...
I'll continue to be skeptical until I see it ...
I'll continue to be skeptical until I see it in an kitchen store and the "packs" of meat cost significantly less than (what I'm assuming will be) about $30 for a pack of two, which is a far cry from fine family dining.]]>
Grow Your Own Meat Without Animalshttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190579#Comment_1905792009-09-25T12:57:18-07:002013-05-25T02:28:42-07:00joe.distorthttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1173
these things, i just dont get. if you want to eat meat, eat meat. if not, dont. it seems pretty cut and dry.
Grow Your Own Meat Without Animalshttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190596#Comment_1905962009-09-25T14:14:42-07:002013-05-25T02:28:42-07:00RenThinghttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=155
@joe
It's not necessarily about wanting to eat meat or not.
For some people, they do not eat meat because they are against the raising and slaughtering of animals solely for eating (although ...
It's not necessarily about wanting to eat meat or not.
For some people, they do not eat meat because they are against the raising and slaughtering of animals solely for eating (although hunting is ok for some of these people). They're not against eating meat per se, they just don't want to have guilty consciences about them
Me? I'll keep eating my burgers and chops and thank anyone who respects that choice as I respect theirs.]]>
Grow Your Own Meat Without Animalshttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190598#Comment_1905982009-09-25T14:28:34-07:002013-05-25T02:28:42-07:00LBAhttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=615
but it's the suffering that makes it tasty
Grow Your Own Meat Without Animalshttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190605#Comment_1906052009-09-25T15:50:08-07:002013-05-25T02:28:42-07:00joe.distorthttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1173
@ren
i am well aware of vegetarian/veganism politics. i would say that for me, it seems to cheapen BOTH sides. it also seems to me that it serves only to make people feel ok with their choices, ...
i am well aware of vegetarian/veganism politics. i would say that for me, it seems to cheapen BOTH sides. it also seems to me that it serves only to make people feel ok with their choices, so they can continue being condescending.
i am like you however, and i do eat poultry and pig. i just dont think you can seperate "meat" into something like that in order to ignore the killing/treatment side of it.]]>
Grow Your Own Meat Without Animalshttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190626#Comment_1906262009-09-25T17:53:17-07:002013-05-25T02:28:42-07:00Lazarus99http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3143
I believe they're already doing something similar in Japan, growing animal parts from stem cells. Trouble is, it costs something like US$10,000/kilo...
Grow Your Own Meat Without Animalshttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190639#Comment_1906392009-09-25T20:13:42-07:002013-05-25T02:28:42-07:00Kosmopolithttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1346
One of the finalists in the competition was a fridge that had food teleported into it from around the world. So, I somehow think this was a "concept" competition as opposed to a competition ...
There's several problems with growing meat in vitro like this: one is the cost; the other is you tend to get shapeless blobs that are really only good for stuff like hamburger patties and chicken nuggets. Plus a lot of the prototypes designed so far rely on animal-derived nutrients so they don;t really solve the ethical problem either.
After close to 50 years of enthusiastically devouring pretty much everything that flew, walked, swam or crawled I'm on a meat-free diet at the moment for health reasons. So if I can't benefit from this I don't see why the rest of you should.]]>
Grow Your Own Meat Without Animalshttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190642#Comment_1906422009-09-25T20:30:40-07:002013-05-25T02:28:42-07:00Fanhttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=6919
> Trouble is, it costs something like US$10,000/kilo
That would be worth-while, if it were a human kidney or similar.
Trouble is, it costs something like US$10,000/kilo
That would be worth-while, if it were a human kidney or similar.]]>
Grow Your Own Meat Without Animalshttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190711#Comment_1907112009-09-26T10:01:01-07:002013-05-25T02:28:42-07:00256http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4827
Kosmo nails it. From the article:
The Cocoon, a concept cooker that grows meat and fish from heated animal cells
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Electrolux hasn't committed to researching whether the device is ...
The Cocoon, a concept cooker that grows meat and fish from heated animal cells
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Electrolux hasn't committed to researching whether the device is feasible
Several years ago on Slashdot I saw an article about a successful attempt to make meat grow in vitro, so there is some science behind there. Although, as I recall, the achievement was making a bit of flesh cut from an animal grow a bit bigger in a nutrient bath, rather than growing it from cells to plate. Also I think it was prime cut of goldfish...
I guess one big advantage of this technology, if it ever gets to the table, is that it might end up being a more efficient way to turn grain into meat than raising whole animals. That would free up crops/cropland to directly feed people. Might save a bit of rainforest, if there's any left to save by the time it gets out of the lab.]]>
Grow Your Own Meat Without Animalshttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190726#Comment_1907262009-09-26T12:24:36-07:002013-05-25T02:28:42-07:00Oddculthttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=214
AUTOLONGPIG!
Grow Your Own Meat Without Animalshttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190730#Comment_1907302009-09-26T12:43:46-07:002013-05-25T02:28:42-07:00Charlenehttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4463
@joe
if someone is veggie for ethical reasons then I don't see why something like this cheapens their moral argument, just like eating meat-free "burgers" or "sausages" doesn't.
if someone is veggie for ethical reasons then I don't see why something like this cheapens their moral argument, just like eating meat-free "burgers" or "sausages" doesn't.]]>
Grow Your Own Meat Without Animalshttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190732#Comment_1907322009-09-26T12:57:42-07:002013-05-25T02:28:42-07:00callisto23http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5765
Just what you need to clone and eat yourself. Cannibalation?
Grow Your Own Meat Without Animalshttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190749#Comment_1907492009-09-26T15:37:45-07:002013-05-25T02:28:42-07:00Osmosishttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=866
Autocannibalisation for the win.
Grow Your Own Meat Without Animalshttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190760#Comment_1907602009-09-26T16:29:00-07:002013-05-25T02:28:42-07:00groundxerohttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=7299
The only thing more disturbing than a machine growing meat is a machine consuming meat (well, technically 'biomass').
The defense research agency has announced they'll be funding the EATR ...
growing meat is a machine consuming meat (well, technically 'biomass').
The defense research agency has announced they'll be funding the EATR project—the Energetically Autonomous Tactical Robot—which aims to build a lumbering mechanical creature that lives off of flesh, both plant and animal:
EATR is an autonomous robotic platform able to perform long-range, long-endurance military missions without the need for manual or conventional re-fueling. The patent pending robotic system can find, ingest and extract energy from biomass in the environment, as well as use conventional and alternative fuels (such as gasoline, diesel, propane and solar) when suitable.
It's actually a steam-powered machine, which employs a biomass furnace that can be fed by all manner of organic materials, harvested with its "gripper" claw and chainsaw.
LINK TO ARTICLE]]>
Grow Your Own Meat Without Animalshttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190861#Comment_1908612009-09-27T04:47:02-07:002013-05-25T02:28:42-07:00warrenellishttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2
....nobody reads my website OR my Wired UK column....
Grow Your Own Meat Without Animalshttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190862#Comment_1908622009-09-27T05:07:24-07:002013-05-25T02:28:42-07:00Slickhttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5354
No crying on Whitechapel!
Grow Your Own Meat Without Animalshttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190917#Comment_1909172009-09-27T13:53:28-07:002013-05-25T02:28:42-07:00groundxerohttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=7299
I had no idea you had a column on Wired UK. (Being from the States I usually troll around the US Wired page). But I looked up and enjoyed quite a bit. Consider me a new reader.
This is the problem ...
This is the problem with writing fiction in the early 21st century: the real world outdoes you for madness every day.
I really liked this from 'We're living in the last days of the Roman Empire' seeing as how this things I read about on a daily basis are often times far more fantastical than anything I've ever read in Science Fiction.
And I'm saving up for "anti-carnivorous-robot security".]]>
Grow Your Own Meat Without Animalshttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190978#Comment_1909782009-09-28T04:18:35-07:002013-05-25T02:28:42-07:00bjacqueshttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2157
Sign me up for vat-grown caviar and sushi! The sturgeon will thank you for it and the Japanese can eat all the whale meat they like.
Grow Your Own Meat Without Animalshttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=191012#Comment_1910122009-09-28T06:17:19-07:002013-05-25T02:28:42-07:00Pookahttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=216
I remember you mentioning the horrible peope eating machine warren...some of us listen ;p
Grow Your Own Meat Without Animalshttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=191233#Comment_1912332009-09-28T18:40:02-07:002013-05-25T02:28:42-07:00government spyhttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=6088
I would eat schmeat. Can I grow it in my own house? Or do I have to buy it like a can of Spam on the shelf?
Provided schmeat tastes alright, and is cost-effective, I would switch over to it ...
Provided schmeat tastes alright, and is cost-effective, I would switch over to it completely.
I don't know why it's called schmeat. It just is.]]>
Grow Your Own Meat Without Animalshttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=191296#Comment_1912962009-09-29T02:48:00-07:002013-05-25T02:28:42-07:00Kosmopolithttp://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1346
I was thinking about this.
I think what we need is a bioreactor where you toss in household scraps and water. Algae grows by feeding off the scraps and is eaten by brine shrimp (sea monkeys) or ...
I think what we need is a bioreactor where you toss in household scraps and water. Algae grows by feeding off the scraps and is eaten by brine shrimp (sea monkeys) or other larval species than can be stored at room temperature for long perods. Then a skimmer harvests the larvae and turns them into high protein food.]]>
