Whitechapel - Grow Your Own Meat Without Animals Thu, 20 Jun 2013 00:42:29 -0700 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/ Lussumo Vanilla 1.1.4 & Feed Publisher Grow Your Own Meat Without Animals http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190553#Comment_190553 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190553#Comment_190553 Fri, 25 Sep 2009 11:39:50 -0700 hemotomaniac The Cocoon, a concept cooker that grows meat and fish from heated animal cells in a process that looks disturbingly similar to magic animal growing capsules. Full article here. ]]> Grow Your Own Meat Without Animals http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190556#Comment_190556 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190556#Comment_190556 Fri, 25 Sep 2009 11:45:09 -0700 Fan
The meat's muscle cells, nutrients, and oxygen are heated for a preset time, and voila, delicious meat is born, sans the whole killing animals part.

In addition to preventing animal slaughter, the cooker is designed to address food shortages around the world. It's a controversial idea, to say the least, but it could also be a quick and easy way to get nutrients from meat products to populations that often have unhealthy diets.


I wonder which "populations that often have unhealthy diets" they're thinking of? Why not just eat the nutrients? ]]> Grow Your Own Meat Without Animals http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190560#Comment_190560 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190560#Comment_190560 Fri, 25 Sep 2009 11:49:33 -0700 RenThing
Would meat grown in this fashion have all of the same nutrients that came from a living animal?

Yay for possibly adding another arsenal for combating food shortages but I don't see this replacing my rib-eye anytime soon. ]]> Grow Your Own Meat Without Animals http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190569#Comment_190569 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190569#Comment_190569 Fri, 25 Sep 2009 12:13:37 -0700 ian holloway Grow Your Own Meat Without Animals http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190573#Comment_190573 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190573#Comment_190573 Fri, 25 Sep 2009 12:37:46 -0700 oldhat
I'll continue to be skeptical until I see it in an kitchen store and the "packs" of meat cost significantly less than (what I'm assuming will be) about $30 for a pack of two, which is a far cry from fine family dining. ]]> Grow Your Own Meat Without Animals http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190579#Comment_190579 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190579#Comment_190579 Fri, 25 Sep 2009 12:57:18 -0700 joe.distort Grow Your Own Meat Without Animals http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190596#Comment_190596 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190596#Comment_190596 Fri, 25 Sep 2009 14:14:42 -0700 RenThing
It's not necessarily about wanting to eat meat or not.

For some people, they do not eat meat because they are against the raising and slaughtering of animals solely for eating (although hunting is ok for some of these people). They're not against eating meat per se, they just don't want to have guilty consciences about them

Me? I'll keep eating my burgers and chops and thank anyone who respects that choice as I respect theirs. ]]> Grow Your Own Meat Without Animals http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190598#Comment_190598 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190598#Comment_190598 Fri, 25 Sep 2009 14:28:34 -0700 LBA Grow Your Own Meat Without Animals http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190605#Comment_190605 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190605#Comment_190605 Fri, 25 Sep 2009 15:50:08 -0700 joe.distort
i am well aware of vegetarian/veganism politics. i would say that for me, it seems to cheapen BOTH sides. it also seems to me that it serves only to make people feel ok with their choices, so they can continue being condescending.

i am like you however, and i do eat poultry and pig. i just dont think you can seperate "meat" into something like that in order to ignore the killing/treatment side of it. ]]> Grow Your Own Meat Without Animals http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190626#Comment_190626 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190626#Comment_190626 Fri, 25 Sep 2009 17:53:17 -0700 Lazarus99 Grow Your Own Meat Without Animals http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190639#Comment_190639 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190639#Comment_190639 Fri, 25 Sep 2009 20:13:42 -0700 Kosmopolit
There's several problems with growing meat in vitro like this: one is the cost; the other is you tend to get shapeless blobs that are really only good for stuff like hamburger patties and chicken nuggets. Plus a lot of the prototypes designed so far rely on animal-derived nutrients so they don;t really solve the ethical problem either.

After close to 50 years of enthusiastically devouring pretty much everything that flew, walked, swam or crawled I'm on a meat-free diet at the moment for health reasons. So if I can't benefit from this I don't see why the rest of you should. ]]> Grow Your Own Meat Without Animals http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190642#Comment_190642 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190642#Comment_190642 Fri, 25 Sep 2009 20:30:40 -0700 Fan Trouble is, it costs something like US$10,000/kilo

That would be worth-while, if it were a human kidney or similar. ]]> Grow Your Own Meat Without Animals http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190711#Comment_190711 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190711#Comment_190711 Sat, 26 Sep 2009 10:01:01 -0700 256
The Cocoon, a concept cooker that grows meat and fish from heated animal cells

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Electrolux hasn't committed to researching whether the device is feasible


Several years ago on Slashdot I saw an article about a successful attempt to make meat grow in vitro, so there is some science behind there. Although, as I recall, the achievement was making a bit of flesh cut from an animal grow a bit bigger in a nutrient bath, rather than growing it from cells to plate. Also I think it was prime cut of goldfish...

I guess one big advantage of this technology, if it ever gets to the table, is that it might end up being a more efficient way to turn grain into meat than raising whole animals. That would free up crops/cropland to directly feed people. Might save a bit of rainforest, if there's any left to save by the time it gets out of the lab. ]]> Grow Your Own Meat Without Animals http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190726#Comment_190726 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190726#Comment_190726 Sat, 26 Sep 2009 12:24:36 -0700 Oddcult Grow Your Own Meat Without Animals http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190730#Comment_190730 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190730#Comment_190730 Sat, 26 Sep 2009 12:43:46 -0700 Charlene
if someone is veggie for ethical reasons then I don't see why something like this cheapens their moral argument, just like eating meat-free "burgers" or "sausages" doesn't. ]]> Grow Your Own Meat Without Animals http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190732#Comment_190732 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190732#Comment_190732 Sat, 26 Sep 2009 12:57:42 -0700 callisto23 Grow Your Own Meat Without Animals http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190749#Comment_190749 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190749#Comment_190749 Sat, 26 Sep 2009 15:37:45 -0700 Osmosis Grow Your Own Meat Without Animals http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190760#Comment_190760 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190760#Comment_190760 Sat, 26 Sep 2009 16:29:00 -0700 groundxero growing meat is a machine consuming meat (well, technically 'biomass').

darpa

The defense research agency has announced they'll be funding the EATR project—the Energetically Autonomous Tactical Robot—which aims to build a lumbering mechanical creature that lives off of flesh, both plant and animal:

EATR is an autonomous robotic platform able to perform long-range, long-endurance military missions without the need for manual or conventional re-fueling. The patent pending robotic system can find, ingest and extract energy from biomass in the environment, as well as use conventional and alternative fuels (such as gasoline, diesel, propane and solar) when suitable.

It's actually a steam-powered machine, which employs a biomass furnace that can be fed by all manner of organic materials, harvested with its "gripper" claw and chainsaw.

LINK TO ARTICLE ]]> Grow Your Own Meat Without Animals http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190861#Comment_190861 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190861#Comment_190861 Sun, 27 Sep 2009 04:47:02 -0700 warrenellis Grow Your Own Meat Without Animals http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190862#Comment_190862 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190862#Comment_190862 Sun, 27 Sep 2009 05:07:24 -0700 Slick Grow Your Own Meat Without Animals http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190917#Comment_190917 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190917#Comment_190917 Sun, 27 Sep 2009 13:53:28 -0700 groundxero
This is the problem with writing fiction in the early 21st century: the real world outdoes you for madness every day.

I really liked this from 'We're living in the last days of the Roman Empire' seeing as how this things I read about on a daily basis are often times far more fantastical than anything I've ever read in Science Fiction.

And I'm saving up for "anti-carnivorous-robot security". ]]> Grow Your Own Meat Without Animals http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190978#Comment_190978 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=190978#Comment_190978 Mon, 28 Sep 2009 04:18:35 -0700 bjacques Grow Your Own Meat Without Animals http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=191012#Comment_191012 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=191012#Comment_191012 Mon, 28 Sep 2009 06:17:19 -0700 Pooka Grow Your Own Meat Without Animals http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=191233#Comment_191233 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=191233#Comment_191233 Mon, 28 Sep 2009 18:40:02 -0700 government spy
Provided schmeat tastes alright, and is cost-effective, I would switch over to it completely.

I don't know why it's called schmeat. It just is. ]]> Grow Your Own Meat Without Animals http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=191296#Comment_191296 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6868&Focus=191296#Comment_191296 Tue, 29 Sep 2009 02:48:00 -0700 Kosmopolit
I think what we need is a bioreactor where you toss in household scraps and water. Algae grows by feeding off the scraps and is eaten by brine shrimp (sea monkeys) or other larval species than can be stored at room temperature for long perods. Then a skimmer harvests the larvae and turns them into high protein food. ]]>