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    So: if you bought new comics this week, here's your discussion thread for them.

    Rules: I'm not interested in shopping lists. I want to know what you thought about what you bought, and so do the people reading. If you've got a spoiler element to discuss, use the "hide" button in the reply menubar. Simple "shopping list" posts will be deleted.

    You will, this week, divide your items into the following two categories:

    THIS IS PROBABLY FOR CHILDREN

    and

    THIS IS PROBABLY FOR ADULTS

    Interpretation of the above is, of course, up to you.

    Consider yourself as providing guidance for the Saturday shoppers.


    Off you go, then.
  2.  (6916.2)
    Light week for me this week.

    THIS IS PROBABLY FOR CHILDREN

    GI Joe: Cobra Special one shot - It's essentially a character study of Tomax that bleeds into a character study of Xamot. I just didn't find it compelling or necessary in a series I have thoroughly enjoyed.

    Herogasm #5 - I have a lot of fun with this mini, but what can I say? It's definitely for children.

    THIS IS PROBABLY FOR ADULTS

    Astonishing X-Men Sketchbook - given to me free with my purchase, why the fuck not?

    Last of the Independents - I finally tracked down a copy of this Matt Fraction-western-mob-graphic-novella last week, and read it this week. And you should go get it if you haven't already. GO!
  3.  (6916.3)
    Warren,

    I'd sure like to say that Ignition City # 5 was amongst my comic purchases this week but alas, it's not out yet. Any idea when I'll be able to scratch my Ig City itch?

    However, I did pick up HIGH MOON, written by my friend David Gallaher. I read the webcomic on zuda and I'm looking forward to sending it to him to get it signed. If any of youse have not read it yet, you can still read it on zuda, but go ahead and buy the TPB. And congratulate David on twitter @davidgallaher. Tell him Chuck (@chucklarntz) sent you.
  4.  (6916.4)
    I'd sure like to say that Ignition City # 5 was amongst my comic purchases this week but alas, it's not out yet. Any idea when I'll be able to scratch my Ig City itch?

    No idea. I don't ship 'em, mate.
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      CommentAuthorRob Bass
    • CommentTimeOct 1st 2009
     (6916.5)
    THIS IS PROBABLY FOR ADULTS

    X-FACTOR #49 - Because I can't see a kid picking this up and just falling right into it, as steeped in X-mythos as it is. Which isn't to say that Peter David isn't doing a fine job of telling an engaging self-contained monthly story starring characters I had little to no emotional investment in prior to this series, to say nothing of the fact that X-editorial keeps throwing events his way that he actually manages to incorporate into his framework in a reasonably intelligent fashion. Several long-simmering threads are boiling over, and I can't wait for #50, or #200, whatever's on the cover when it shows up. Also catching his echoes of being disturbed at how old his daughters are getting.

    X-FORCE #19 - This is definitely for adults who cut their teeth on late-80s Claremont, as I suspect the authors did. But they mine some gold out of all that madness. Plus, they've about sold me on X-23, which, let's face it, is kind of a ridiculous premise. Also nice to see Fraction's Dr. Nemesis making the rounds.

    GREEN LANTERN #46 - Johns's Big Event rolls on. I think I like it better when Sinestro is the POV character. Hal and Carol finally get a little slice of chemistry that doesn't involve sniping at each other. Mahnke's art takes a slight dip this month, maybe his deadlines are catching up to him, but he's still better than most. The last page is that perfect sort of blindingly-obvious-in-hindsight Big Dumb Idea that fuels events like these, just executed to perfection. Johns knows what he's building.

    DARK TOWER: THE FALL OF GILEAD #5 - Damn the treachery of the Good Man. This issue is all textbook set-up, but entertaining enough on its own. Particularly nice to see the backmatter falling in line and not just printing some Robin Furth interview. The panel with the message scrawled in blood is the hands-down winner. Isanove's doing fine enough work, but I can't wait to get Jae Lee back, was already thinking that before seeing his pencils in the back.


    THIS IS PROBABLY FOR EVERYONE

    ASTRO CITY SPECIAL: ASTRA #1 - Hands down, the best thing I read this week. Always really enjoyed this series, but it's gotten bogged down the past few years in time delays over the course of a 16-part arc, which have really hurt the book's momentum. Those days are done, as the last two issues of Book 3 were stuffed with hurtling madness, and then we come to this, which is a contender for my favorite issue of this series ever. It stars that 6-yr old from #2 of vol. 2, all grown up. The maddening thing about this series is that the universe is so rich, you always want more from so many characters before the focus shifts away from them, and I've probably felt that most about the Furst Family (who, from their HQ atop Mount Kirby, might wear their analogue DNA most proudly on their sleeves). This issue runs the gamut, from pure Kirby Krackle cosmic madness to the quickened hush before an interrupted kiss. It's why I go in every Wednesday, and is more than worth gambling your $3.99 on during a slow week.
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    THIS IS PROBABLY FOR ADULTS.... Sinestro



    whut
  6.  (6916.7)
    THIS IS PROBABLY FOR ADULTS

    Herogasm #5 (?). It is the only comic I picked up this week. When describing this book, someone told me it was like The Boys, but without the restraint or good taste. I agree.
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      CommentAuthorivanbrandon
    • CommentTimeOct 1st 2009 edited
     (6916.8)
    warrenellis 1 hour ago (6916.6)
    THIS IS PROBABLY FOR ADULTS.... Sinestro

    whut



    you did this on purpose for maximum hilarity.
  7.  (6916.9)
    i am pure and you are a horrible person for suggesting otherwise
    • CommentAuthortphd
    • CommentTimeOct 1st 2009
     (6916.10)
    PROBABLY FOR CHILDREN:

    Tiny Tyrants volume 2.

    Lewis Trondheim is worth my attention. Even when he's doing gags. Parme's art is very very slick and pleasing.


    PROBABLY FOR ADULTS:

    Sleeper volume 2.

    Volumes 3 and 4 of one of Brubaker's best stories conveniently repackaged in a single book. Read it. Reread it. Take off all your clothes and rub yourself on it.

    Black Jack volume 6.

    Like Tiny Tyrants or Kirby comics, sometimes the most compelling element of Osamu Tezuka's works is not the narrative. The Black Jack stories have a sort of rushed, summary feel to them, very different from the telescoped 8-volume Buddha story for example, but they are engaging anyway. Tezuka's insistence on the inclusion of strong themes even in stories too short to fully support them produces mixed results, but they are preferable to the empty and formulaic alternative.
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      CommentAuthorm.bagen
    • CommentTimeOct 1st 2009
     (6916.11)
    Van Nye's Book of Lies, Issue #1 "Three Nights at the Edge of Texas"

    The series is black and white illuminated text. Each book will be another self-contained story. Mostly horror or contemporary fantasy. Mostly young-adult to adult, which is a nice way of saying no hardcore. It'll be sold through comic shops owing to form factor and size, so I post about it in here.
  8.  (6916.12)
    my stores whole shipment got destroyed by a fuel spill at UPS. so i stopped by an unnamed chain that i dont like (because they are trying to upsell and get you to prepay for shit at every fucking turn) just to grab something to hold me over. yes, comics are an addiction.

    ADULTS

    PUNISHER annual- i havent been reading any punisher since fractions war journal ended. this was cool. it was mean and funny, which (besides TOTALLY FUCKIN CRAZY) are the best adjectives i can throw around.
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      CommentAuthorRob Bass
    • CommentTimeOct 1st 2009
     (6916.13)
    @warrenellis: I wouldn't hand BLACKEST NIGHT, or any of the other books I listed along with it, to an 8-yr old and say, "This is everything that's good about comics. Enjoy!" I would do so with that ASTRO CITY.

    My interpretation of your categories, not trying to say that Johns is channeling Moore or Pynchon with his in-depth literary portrayal of a war of light.
  9.  (6916.14)
    My interpretation of your categories, not trying to say that Johns is channeling Moore or Pynchon with his in-depth literary portrayal of a war of light.

    Well, when there's apparently a guy called Sinestro in a book you tag as "this is probably for adults," I think I'm allowed to look askance. I don't get any sense, from what you wrote, of why you think it falls under that category.
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      CommentAuthorRob Bass
    • CommentTimeOct 1st 2009
     (6916.15)
    Well, after putting the X-books in that category due to how buried in continuity they are, it felt a bit off to kick GL out to all-ages, what with the reanimated corpses running amok and disemboweling the good guys. But I'm certainly not trying to make some argument that BLACKEST NIGHT warrants a For Mature Readers label and that you should have to be 13 to buy it, not what I mean by "for adults."

    That's not how I'm interpreting the tags, am thinking more of who I perceive the intended audience to be. And in the case of those X-books or BLACKEST NIGHT, it's not some hypothetical 8-year old who's just showing up, but a 28- or 38-year old who's been at this for years and years and can actually muster some enthusiasm or morbid curiosity about what's going to happen when the corpses of Ralph & Sue Dibny go head-to-head with Hal Jordan and Barry Allen. The only thing I'd tag under that "for children," which, really, I'd expand to "for everybody," is something that kindles wonder, Morrison's ALL-STAR SUPERMAN or Waid's FLASH or, here, Busiek tearing it up on ASTRO CITY.
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    It was just a real cognitive-dissonance moment for me. Thanks for your additional thoughts, it's much clearer to me now.
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      CommentAuthorRob Bass
    • CommentTimeOct 1st 2009
     (6916.17)
    Of course, now the latest Thing That Should Not Be in my head is the new $25 Vertigo hardcover SINESTRO, masterfully painted by Lee Bermejo, which tells us all much more than we ever needed or wanted to know about how hard it was to grow up on Korugar and not be the best Green Lantern, after all.

    With lots of pink-skinned fucking.
    • CommentAuthorlead_pipe
    • CommentTimeOct 2nd 2009
     (6916.18)
    You know....for kids: (because, as Isaac Bashevis Singer wrote once, kids are the ultimate critics)

    Unknown Soldier #12

    There was even more death and blood and awesomely drawn fight scenes in this issue. The plot continues to develop and the pacing is hot (I reread all 12 issues this week). Kids are not satisfied with 'decompression' and waffly kak. This story is tight. Kids will also warm to the growing friendship between the burned-out G-man and the protagonist. (Adults are holding their breath, waiting for the other shoe to drop.)

    Adults might also appreciate the juxtapositioning of the eulogy for Moses the man vs the images of the monster he's become, and the self-referential role of the author as do-gooder American.

    I'll drop a lot of stuff but I won't drop this till it's done.
  11.  (6916.19)
    Being a Norwegian, most of my English-language reading is always going to be from TPBs. So naturally, I'm a little behind.

    THIS IS PROBABLY FOR KIDS:

    Runaways TPB vol. 1: Pride & Joy
    The first book in a series about a bunch of kids who first discover that their parents are supervillains, and then gradually figure out their own powers and suchlike while, well, running away. I enjoyed the book as an adult, but would actually recommend it most to teens: The art's toony and expressive, it's got a fun vibe despite the kids' increasingly bad situation, and, well, it's about a bunch of teens discovering they have superpowers and fighting back against their parents. Part childhood fantasy, part pretty decent storytelling, and it doesn't talk down to the reader.

    THIS IS PROBABLY FOR ADULTS:

    The Invincible Iron Man: Extremis
    It's written by Ellis. Of course it's for adults. Dark, at times wince-inducingly violent, snarky, technology/genetics porn. All in a good way, mind you.

    Fables: The Dark Ages
    Fables is modern fairytales for grownups. This isn't just due to the frequent violence and adult themes, but also due to the pacing. While some volumes (for instance Animal Farm, the book I like to push onto people to get them hooked on the Fableverse) are briskly and not-too-complicated in their storytelling, going from "problem appears" to "problem solved" within one volume while at the same time gradually advancing the general plot... This one's all about advancing the general plot. And the plot is basically this: Things Go To Crap.

    DMZ TPB vol. 1: On The Ground
    America has a civil war. The Demilitarized Zone is in the middle of Manhattan Island, where a rookie photojournalist finds himself as the only journalist in an area that hasn't had any proper reporting. There's a post-apocalyptic-story flavor to a lot of the happenings, though with more of a basis in real-life wars. Of course, things are violent, non-compromising, cynical and sweary. And then there's the voice of the comic, the journalist himself, who expresses himself as well in the visuals as he does in the narration.
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    @twentythoughts
    "a little behind" - "DMZ: On The Ground"
    I think a little is an understatement.

    THIS IS PROBABLY FOR ADULTS

    YOUNG LIARS #18
    Even though this is the last one, it's the first I read, mostly because of the myriad WTF questions I came up with while reading it. After the first six, I still have no idea what's going on, except for who Sadie and the main character are. It's a bit as if Lapham wrote a rock odyssey in a Transmetropolitan world, with unnecessary amounts of gore galore, including a particularly vicious midget with a knife who goes quite nuts on the main characters at one point,
    pun not intended
    . I'd definitely recommend picking up the trades, the third and final of which is probably on its way out right now.