Whitechapel - Closer and Closer to Big Brother Every Day 2013-05-22T09:45:44-07:00 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/ Lussumo Vanilla & Feed Publisher Closer and Closer to Big Brother Every Day http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6924&Focus=191723#Comment_191723 2009-10-01T08:01:37-07:00 2013-05-22T09:45:44-07:00 lampcommander http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4529 Just saw a blip about this on CNN: Georgia Tech is striving to use existing security-and-other cameras with Google Earth-type tech to create a streaming video map of the world that you can use to ... this on CNN:

Georgia Tech is striving to use existing security-and-other cameras with Google Earth-type tech to create a streaming video map of the world that you can use to watch anything that's happening anywhere, anytime. I for one can't believe that the nonsense in that Will Smith movie Enemy of the State is actually coming true.]]> Closer and Closer to Big Brother Every Day http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6924&Focus=191742#Comment_191742 2009-10-01T09:00:08-07:00 2013-05-22T09:45:44-07:00 Oddcult http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=214 Yeah, but you've still got to make people care. Everyone seems to think that these days the UK is some kind of hideously over-watched big brother state, but no one's actually watching the cameras, ...
Everyone seems to think that these days the UK is some kind of hideously over-watched big brother state, but no one's actually watching the cameras, so they get ignored. They're a replacement for the police, not a tool of the police.]]> Closer and Closer to Big Brother Every Day http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6924&Focus=191748#Comment_191748 2009-10-01T09:10:44-07:00 2013-05-22T09:45:44-07:00 rickiep00h http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2930 If you're outside, you're fair game. If you never want to be tracked, stay inside your home at all times, keep the curtains drawn, and don't interact with anyone. Because the second you do, somebody ... Closer and Closer to Big Brother Every Day http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6924&Focus=191788#Comment_191788 2009-10-01T10:27:24-07:00 2013-05-22T09:45:44-07:00 lampcommander http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4529 Eh. I'm not a conspiracy nut, I just thought it's interesting that someone was actually trying to do it, and (probably) make it available to every rickiep00h in the world. Closer and Closer to Big Brother Every Day http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6924&Focus=191877#Comment_191877 2009-10-01T15:05:55-07:00 2013-05-22T09:45:44-07:00 groundxero http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=7299 @Oddcult Everyone seems to think that these days the UK is some kind of hideously over-watched big brother state, but no one's actually watching the cameras, so they get ignored. They're a ... @Oddcult

Everyone seems to think that these days the UK is some kind of hideously over-watched big brother state, but no one's actually watching the cameras, so they get ignored. They're a replacement for the police, not a tool of the police.


One crime solved for every 1,000 CCTV cameras, senior officer claims

The article above corroborates what you've said, although I think the CCTV cameras take on more importance when you consider this study:

Poster Of Eyes Makes People More Honest

Basically, regardless of if you are actually being watched or not, people tend to alter their habits if they perceive they are being watched. This goes back to Orwell's 1984:

The telescreen received and transmitted simultaneously. Any sound that Winston made, above the level of a very low whisper, would be picked up by it. There was... no way of knowing whether you were being watched at any given moment. How often, or on what system, the Thought Police plugged in on any individual wire was guesswork.... You had to live -- did live, from habit that became instinct -- in the assumption that every sound you made was overheard, and, except in darkness, every movement scrutinized."

- George Orwell, 1984]]> Closer and Closer to Big Brother Every Day http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6924&Focus=191930#Comment_191930 2009-10-01T18:45:29-07:00 2013-05-22T09:45:44-07:00 rickiep00h http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2930 Eh. I'm not a conspiracy nut, I just thought it's interesting that someone was actually trying to do it, and (probably) make it available to every rickiep00h in the world.The thing is that people get ... Eh. I'm not a conspiracy nut, I just thought it's interesting that someone was actually trying to do it, and (probably) make it available to every rickiep00h in the world.The thing is that people get all up in arms about being tracked when they're in public. As soon as one person sees you outside, someone knows you're there, so there's no reason to try to keep it some kind of secret. That's all I'm saying. Any random Joe already COULD track every move you make when you're outside, if they wanted to. And they could tell anybody they wanted to.]]> Closer and Closer to Big Brother Every Day http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6924&Focus=191936#Comment_191936 2009-10-01T19:35:33-07:00 2013-05-22T09:45:44-07:00 groundxero http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=7299 @rickiep00h Any random Joe already COULD track every move you make when you're outside, if they wanted to. They could but there are laws against it. Most people consider that stalking. @rickiep00h

Any random Joe already COULD track every move you make when you're outside, if they wanted to.


They could but there are laws against it. Most people consider that stalking.]]> Closer and Closer to Big Brother Every Day http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6924&Focus=191944#Comment_191944 2009-10-01T20:38:06-07:00 2013-05-22T09:45:44-07:00 rickiep00h http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2930 Well yes, but since we're crazy hypothetical land, I'm just saying that it's possible now. Technology just makes it easier. Closer and Closer to Big Brother Every Day http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6924&Focus=191968#Comment_191968 2009-10-01T23:50:54-07:00 2013-05-22T09:45:44-07:00 Oddcult http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=214 @groundxero - that's the thing though. Most people are now assuming they're not being watched by cameras and that even if they were, the response time would be plenty enough to get away, and a simple ... Closer and Closer to Big Brother Every Day http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6924&Focus=191995#Comment_191995 2009-10-02T04:04:51-07:00 2013-05-22T09:45:44-07:00 Pooka http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=216 this world is getting more and more stressful by the day... Closer and Closer to Big Brother Every Day http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6924&Focus=192046#Comment_192046 2009-10-02T08:09:35-07:00 2013-05-22T09:45:44-07:00 lampcommander http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4529 @Pooka: True, but I think what rickiep00h and Oddcult might be getting at is that it's essentially just another gradual change in technology - people may not like the idea of it now, but they'll ... Closer and Closer to Big Brother Every Day http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6924&Focus=192132#Comment_192132 2009-10-02T14:43:33-07:00 2009-10-02T14:45:51-07:00 groundxero http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=7299 @Oddcult Alright then. How about when the cameras don't need someone to monitor it? What if the camera is smart enough to pick up on certain behavioural characteristics and in turn alert the ... @Oddcult

Alright then. How about when the cameras don't need someone to monitor it? What if the camera is smart enough to pick up on certain behavioural characteristics and in turn alert the police before an actual offense has occured?


Artificially Intelligent CCTV could prevent crimes before they happen

A new generation of Minority Report-style security cameras that can detect criminals before they strike could be in operation across Britain within five years, scientists claim.

By Richard Alleyne, Science Correspondent
Published: 2:22PM BST 23 Sep 2009

The CCTV technology identifies suspicious individuals and behaviour and then acts to stamp out crimes before they happen.

When a crime looks like it is going to occur, the system will verbally warn the perpetrator and then if necessary alert the nearest police officer.

ISIS, short for Integrated Sensor Information System, is being developed by a team at Queen’s University Belfast at its Centre for Secure Information Technologies.

It is designed to work with the extensive network of CCTV cameras already installed on buses and trains as well as in stations, airports and on the street


LINK TO ARTICLE]]> Closer and Closer to Big Brother Every Day http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6924&Focus=192138#Comment_192138 2009-10-02T15:21:10-07:00 2013-05-22T09:45:44-07:00 RenThing http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=155 My predictions about this system? The number of tourists getting arrested for taking pictures of buildings to skyrocket. Closer and Closer to Big Brother Every Day http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6924&Focus=192148#Comment_192148 2009-10-02T16:00:36-07:00 2013-05-22T09:45:44-07:00 rickiep00h http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2930 Yup. Also, the system in Illinois (Chicago, specifically) has issues simply reading license plates. This is in a supposed state-of-the-art system with human oversight, so I'm guessing AI monitoring ... license plates. This is in a supposed state-of-the-art system with human oversight, so I'm guessing AI monitoring is probably a ways off still. Even a badly-functioning version.

Further predictions: Goth/emo kids, people jamming out to techno on their headphones, and claustrophobic people get warned/arrested for being themselves. (That would be the dark, hooded clothing, the people making sudden movements, and the people moving from seat to seat, as per the article.)]]> Closer and Closer to Big Brother Every Day http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6924&Focus=192174#Comment_192174 2009-10-02T19:04:31-07:00 2013-05-22T09:45:44-07:00 Rachæl Tyrell http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=552 About two months ago, after a rainstorm, I went walking into the center of town to buy myself some gummy bears. I brought my camera, and while walking, I took pictures, as I'm prone to do. I walked ...
for this they called the cops


In less than five minutes, a police officer approached me as I gazed at the candy aisle inside the drug store, and asked if I'd been taking pictures. "yes i was" I told him, my massive camera dangling around my neck. And then he got awkward. "oh, well, somebody called and said someone was taking pictures." But there was nothing to say from there. I showed him that I'd been taking pictures of the clouds and whatnot, and he practically apologised to me for the bother.

What really irritated me about this is that I was in a PUBLIC PLACE where photographing is entirely allowed, and some paranoid suburbanite thought to report me, meanwhile every commercial building in the area has cameras both inside and outside, recording their every move.

People aren't interested in cameras until they are reminded that a human might be behind the lens.]]> Closer and Closer to Big Brother Every Day http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6924&Focus=192255#Comment_192255 2009-10-03T12:13:16-07:00 2013-05-22T09:45:44-07:00 lampcommander http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4529 @Rachael: no offense, but the police office ACTUALLY SAYING THE WORDS "somebody called and said someone was taking pictures" made me snarf. How could that possibly be construed as a bad ...
It also reminds me of my time visiting my brother in LA, where the sheer fact that I even had a camera on my shoulder meant people were stopping me in every store and even on the street to tell me no pictures were allowed. LA is the craziest about images without payment up front.]]> Closer and Closer to Big Brother Every Day http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6924&Focus=192274#Comment_192274 2009-10-03T14:35:02-07:00 2013-05-22T09:45:44-07:00 government spy http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=6088 Terrorists like to take pictures of things so they can make plans to blow up those things, therefore taking pictures of things makes you a terrorist suspect. Closer and Closer to Big Brother Every Day http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6924&Focus=192290#Comment_192290 2009-10-03T15:30:19-07:00 2013-05-22T09:45:44-07:00 Adam http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=375 Terrorists like to take pictures of things so they can make plans to blow up those things You mean, all those photos mom took of us on our family vacation 5 years ago... OH NOES! I'M IN TERRIBLE ... Terrorists like to take pictures of things so they can make plans to blow up those things
You mean, all those photos mom took of us on our family vacation 5 years ago... OH NOES! I'M IN TERRIBLE DANGER!!]]> Closer and Closer to Big Brother Every Day http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=6924&Focus=192295#Comment_192295 2009-10-03T15:40:42-07:00 2013-05-22T09:45:44-07:00 government spy http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=6088 Right, so when, for example, Chicago, IL hosts a "take pictures of our trains" contest, and then the CTA security tries to arrest all photographers on the trains because of a security ...