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      CommentAuthorNeil Ofsteel
    • CommentTimeOct 20th 2009 edited
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    ...or some magnets need set up properly. Stupid scientists.
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    Yes, this seems like something that Warren would want to file away for later... I do enjoy the idea of the future purposely trying to sabotage us. We're like, "Why isn't this machine working?" and future us is like, "Quit fucking around with that goddamn machine, assholes!!!" An interesting weapon could be a Higgs boson bomb which, when set off, would generally fuck everything up in the area to prevent itself from doing what it is supposed to.
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    Wouldn't a Higgs Boson bomb just prevent itself from going off in the first place?

    I suppose it could be a useful anti-doomsday device, if you could fool-proof any of the various small failures that it could use to prevent itself from going off, so the ONLY way it would go off and create a Higgs Boson would be if a nuclear detonation occurred somewhere on Earth. Thus making a nuclear detonation physically impossible.
    • CommentAuthorKosmopolit
    • CommentTimeOct 21st 2009
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    David,

    There was a story in the old Omni magazine which was remarkably close to that.

    A new supercollider is built and keeps failing in more spectacular and bizarre way each time its creators try to turn it on.

    Eventually they redo the math and realise that:

    a. turning it on would recreate conditions immediately after the big bang- including cosmological inflation which would destroy the Earth; and

    b. the Many Worlds hypothesis has just been proven - because the only universe they can ever observe is one of the ones where somehow the collider malfunctioned

    So they tell the US and Russian governments *since the Russians are about to commission their own version.

    Both sides decide to hook their machines up to an Atom-phone style doomsday system. If either system detects multiple nuclear explosions it activates.

    This makes nuclear war impossible - at least in any universe with humans around to observe it.
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    ::throws out story idea as it has already been done better::
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      CommentAuthorsneak046
    • CommentTimeOct 21st 2009
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    @sneak046

    I hope you don't mind me extracting the salient point from that article you linked:

    "The difference here is that these previous "crazy" ideas [quantum mechanics, special relativity] gave consequences that were clearly testable and attestable to the new nature of the theory, in an objective manner, and involved the behavior of inanimate objects (i.e., not humans). However, in this case, the consequences seem quite contrived β€” specifically, setting up the theory such that the Higgs particle thwarts its own discovery at the LHC seems to be creating the means to fit the desired end."
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      CommentAuthorsneak046
    • CommentTimeOct 21st 2009
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    @Paul - no not all. Thanks. (the bottomless pit that are my RSS feeds turned up something pertinent for a change..)
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      CommentAuthorrickiep00h
    • CommentTimeOct 21st 2009
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    I'm pretty sure that Warren posted this on Warren Ellis dot com. Which is how this lunacy came to my attention.

    Personally, I'm still waiting for this thing to get fired back up, just to see if we do, in fact, blink out of existence. I don't think we will, but hey, who knows.
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      CommentAuthortaphead
    • CommentTimeOct 21st 2009
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    No one reads his website.
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      CommentAuthorrickiep00h
    • CommentTimeOct 21st 2009
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    Ah, mighty fine point. I keep forgetting.
    • CommentAuthorVerissimus
    • CommentTimeOct 21st 2009
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    This might have been true if Grant Morrison wrote our reality.
    • CommentAuthorSteadyUP
    • CommentTimeOct 21st 2009
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    Kosmopolit - any idea if that story is still findable somewhere?
    • CommentAuthorKosmopolit
    • CommentTimeOct 21st 2009
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    Steady - can't remember who wrote it or the title unfortunately.

    I might try googling for it.
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      CommentAuthorjohnjones
    • CommentTimeOct 22nd 2009
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    @ Verus

    How certain are we that Grant Morrison isn't writing our reality?
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    At least Bendis isn't writing reality.
    • CommentAuthorVerissimus
    • CommentTimeOct 22nd 2009
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    @johnjones

    If Morrison wrote our reality it would be way cooler.

    Unless we're in one of those alternative universe thingies where things have gone wrong...
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    Unless we're in one of those alternative universe thingies where things have gone wrong...

    That would explain a lot.
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    What If... George Bush Won The Presidency In 2000?

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