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  1.  (7102.21)
    The Cobblers may be a shit football team but I do feel a slight wounded pride about my hometown getting cunted off.

    Still, a good episode. I'm liking mark. He's a proper nihilist unlike his imitator and later-turned-rapist
    • CommentAuthorredex
    • CommentTimeOct 30th 2009
     (7102.22)
    Agreeing with the others, I'm really enjoying this flashback despite the roof-hanger. I love seeing these characters in their teenage naiveté and ambition, before they've been taught the very real consequences of their actions. Mark is a fascinating character, and it causes us to look back on their first three books in a different light. Sure, they've said before that the reason why the world is this way is their fault, but now we also know why. Although I've found that in most of your (Ellis') works characters are more vehicles for plot, walking themes, or enjoyable more than interesting, but this cast definitely has a lot to dig into. Every week this comic makes getting up on Fridays bearable!
  2.  (7102.23)
    The freakkids look adorable.

    It's ....afternoon. I'm vaguely headachey due to the weather. Stocked up on winter beer. Got a mocha. Watched the rain start and stop. And start and stop.
    and...
    you get the idea.

    Read FA, liked it; liked seeing how characters change over time.
    • CommentAuthorcjtremlett
    • CommentTimeOct 30th 2009
     (7102.24)
    I agree that the "our own Hiroshima" line is seriously fucked up. I'm still wondering what set the army/police/whoever after them. I also wonder if Luke was just born bitchy. Looking forward to hearing what Kait and Miki have to say about this, too. We know all twelve agreed. I hope we see how they convinced Miki.

    I have a cat in my lap. Life is good.
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      CommentAuthorindysleaze
    • CommentTimeOct 30th 2009
     (7102.25)
    Nortampton shall have its revenge on Warren Ellis, probably in the form of apathy-filled shoes
  3.  (7102.26)
    @cjtremlett - It's pretty much assumed that the government wants to capture them for their powers. Once the government (any government) found out what the FreakAngels could do, they'd seriously want to experiment. Of course, we don't know how they found out about them, but since they are very young yet, it's not hard to see them making mistake or two and attracting attention. I could be wrong, but I don't think they neccesarily did anything TO the military or police or government that sparked retaliation and hunting... it's just because of what they are and can do.

    I also have a cat in my lap, and FreakAngels on my computer. Life is, indeed, good.

    Thank you gentlemen.
    • CommentAuthorBerserker
    • CommentTimeOct 30th 2009
     (7102.27)
    This month/week has been doing everything in it's power to murder me. Hasn't been very nice to my friends either, at that.

    Carrying over from the last week, it's now clear that Sirrka is there too - she was just hidden behind Luke last ep. - which I rather suspected. So far we've yet to see either Kait or Miki - but I'm not sure which, as it's yet to be clarified who of those two it is sulking in the far corner.

    For myself, I can't help but want to think that's going to be somehow very pivotal to them doing what they do - in a suddenly having their hand forced way, rather than thinking it further through before it's done. To elaborate, I think that one is caught alone, and hard pressed, drawing the rest in and making them over-do it in a moment of panic/anger.

    That being said, I'm looking forward to being ENTIRELY wrong, and enjoying the show. Because we know it's going to be one helluva show.
  4.  (7102.28)
    <blockquote>
    It's pretty much assumed that the government wants to capture them for their powers. Once the government (any government) found out what the FreakAngels could do, they'd seriously want to experiment. </blockquote>



    In Midwitch Cuckoos (the spur for this comic, written by John Wyndham) the military and Gov actually shit it and wanted to destroy them at all costs, out of intense fear.
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      CommentAuthormister hex
    • CommentTimeOct 30th 2009 edited
     (7102.29)
    Hiroshima ended the war. Most historians would agree an invasion of the Home Islands would have cost a million ALLIED casualties, not to mention the inevitable Japanese civilian casualties. Hell, 100,000+ people were killed in the fire-bombing of Tokyo and that was with conventional explosives.

    Was there an element of racism inherent in the use of atomic weapons against the Japanese? Probably. Would they have nuked Berlin or Munich or Cologne, if the Germans hasn't already capitulated? We'll never know. We DO know that Curtis LeMay was quoted as saying "When we get done, Japanese will only be spoken in Hell."

    I don't want to start a debate about Hiroshima. Just saying, it ended the war, which is what I read "our own Hiroshima" as intending to do : end the war against the Freakangels. Make the GubMint reasonably terrified of them and leave them alone. Didn't work out that way, as we all know.

    Speculation Time - they punch a hole in somewhere uninhabited - the middle of the Atlantic Ocean, say - only it's a bigger hole than they wanted to punch. Tsunamis, earthquakes, disruption of the power grid, nuclear stations going offline (or even exploding) - voila, the Drowned World. Arkady, using the package for remote viewing, seeing that "it's gotten worse" elsewhere, like America or Europe or such-like.

    EDIT TO ADD a fix of a typo and to say "I'm fine, Ariana. How are you?"
    • CommentAuthorZeroDrop
    • CommentTimeOct 30th 2009
     (7102.30)
    If I was on the middle of them, that idea will sound reasonable for me.

    A bunch of teenagers not knowing the real extent of their powers, cornered... They have to do something to survive, and in a situation like that, all ideas are welcome. In a hopeless situation, anything is better than doing nothing. They'll regret later, of course, but they didn't knew.

    Many scientists involved in the making of the first atomic bomb on USA, soon after the test bomb exploded for the first time, where in regret and tried to stop the military, but it was too late, the bomb was out of their hands. It's an analogue situation. You need to see the damage so to regret. No one has seen an atomic explosion before, and the surprise was big indeed.

    "Their own Hiroshima" is accurate, in this sense. But with a difference: Hiroshima was not the discovery of the atomic bomb, Hiroshima was the first practical use, the bomb was detonated before many times and everybody knew the damage it would cause, the many lives that will be lost. And, in the Freakangels context, they didn't know the extent of the damage they're about to cause.

    Well, all that's left for me is to wait for another week. I'm enjoying the show.

    And is better hurry with the conclusion of this flashback, after all, KK is still hanging on the roof... hehehe
    • CommentAuthorarvandor
    • CommentTimeOct 30th 2009 edited
     (7102.31)
    Excellent stuff.

    Mark is really creepy. Just the way he's talking about annihilating a city in such a matter of fact way is more terrifying than if he was cackling maniacally about it.

    And I've wondered for a long time about the situation in the rest of the world. I'm not even sure if the whole world is flooded, or just Britain. It sounds like they were indeed just attempting to flood a single city - but something went wrong.
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      CommentAuthormister hex
    • CommentTimeOct 30th 2009
     (7102.32)
    "23 YEARS AGO, TWELVE STRANGE CHILDREN WERE BORN IN ENGLAND AT EXACTLY THE SAME MOMENT.
    6 YEARS AGO, THE WORLD ENDED.

    THIS IS THE STORY OF WHAT HAPPENED NEXT."

    I'm not pushing for world-wide catastrophe but after six years and no help has come? No help is on it's way, I'm afraid.
    Also, remember, they CLEANED UP Whitechapel. It used to be worse, what with baby farms and rape camps and all.

    We all know it's recently Plus 100, (well, minus the corpses Kait's currently investigating, 'in the present moment') but what the population of Whitechapel is, we have no idea.
    • CommentAuthorFrelance
    • CommentTimeOct 30th 2009
     (7102.33)
    Whitechapel's several thousands, just based on the necessity-for/utility-of a produce market and centralized water distribution. The hundred were clearly more than a drop in the bucket, so their city doesn't have tens of thousands, but couldn't have been a shift in order of magnitude since the community didn't merge with the vagabond troupe, they absorbed them.
  5.  (7102.34)
    The end of Alan Moore, the Saints, and The Jazz Butcher? Please, save Northampton!
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      CommentAuthorstsparky
    • CommentTimeOct 30th 2009
     (7102.35)
    Mark is a sick soul. But I still see no reason to warm up to Luke.
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      CommentAuthorLucifal
    • CommentTimeOct 30th 2009
     (7102.36)
    Love the shift to backstory in the last two episodes.
    • CommentAuthorZombi
    • CommentTimeOct 30th 2009
     (7102.37)
    Last panel, last page:
    "We need to change the terms of the problem,[...]"

    ...and they did.

    Interesting though, here they talk about England only, when it comes to punching holes, so could there be any possibility that the rest of the world hasn't ended? Maybe they just thought UK a loss and went on living?
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      CommentAuthorrazrangel
    • CommentTimeOct 30th 2009
     (7102.38)
    Whoa. *shivers*

    It makes sense that first they did the bad thing and then they (most of them) spent the next six years trying to make up for it. They had to learn the hard way that breaking something is far easier than fixing. Not that, six years ago, they gave a thought toward fixing anything....

    Of course now I want to know even more, to go back a bit farther and learn what made them and how "They" found about the 'Angels and what set Them on hunting them down. Also, how much did the average layman know about the 'Angels?

    Still. Hard stuff to watch go down...
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      CommentAuthordiello
    • CommentTimeOct 30th 2009
     (7102.39)
    Oh, also, Happy Ariana Appreciation Week!
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      CommentAuthorDavies0010
    • CommentTimeOct 30th 2009
     (7102.40)
    In terms of the world ending = London flooded, i always figured they'd done something along the lines of smashing the North Pole, and flooding the world.