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    • CommentAuthorRilauven
    • CommentTimeOct 31st 2009 edited
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    Hi All, long time reader/lurker, first time poster. Love the comic, but I wanna a get a few things off my mind. Let’s just burn through these:

    What's the heat source for KK’s steam contraptions, and why can’t/hasn’t she used it to build a steam powered electrical generator?

    Why don’t the people of Whitechapel seem to notice that everyone in charge happens to be pale and purple eyed? Are they just content enough in having a decent quality of life amidst the apocalypse that they don’t ask questions?

    Is Sirkka naturally purple haired as sort of a secondary mutation of whatever made her a freakangel, or is it just artistic liberties with her character?

    Similarly for Arkady, was she always bald or is it a “scar” from her drug overdose experience? Or has she just decided not having hair is easier to take care of? (I can see her shaving her head just so she wouldn’t have to fix her hair)

    Not really a question, but why didn’t they find a more diplomatic way to deal with Luke? I knew from they day everyone was hitting him that they were going to push him into retaliation, shame on the rest of the angels.. but it does make for a good story. :)
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    but it does make for a good story. :)

    This applies to most of what's here. This is the stuff we invite you to roll with.

    (Although, we haven't gotten a look at any of the generators yet, just the new stuff that, notably, doesn't involve the sort of stuff that a steam generator would)

    (And Arkady shaves her head)
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      CommentAuthorLissa77
    • CommentTimeNov 6th 2009
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    How fun would a story be if some of it wasn't left to the reader to imagine? That's kinda the point of fiction, I'd think. We give you a good story to work with, you fill in the blanks of the things you're twisted brain wonders about with your own twisted ideas and assumptions, and voila!

    And my guess is Sirkka's hair turned purple from the extremely high level of hormones pumping through her system. At least that's been my excuse for freaky hair colors. :p
    • CommentAuthorarvandor
    • CommentTimeNov 6th 2009
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    <blockquote>Not really a question, but why didn’t they find a more diplomatic way to deal with Luke? I knew from they day everyone was hitting him that they were going to push him into retaliation, shame on the rest of the angels.. but it does make for a good story. :)</blockquote>

    They were still in the middle of deciding. The argument was unresolved, and they'd all gone to cool off. Shooting Luke full of holes was all Kirk's idea, though with Jack's subtle encouragement.
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    What's the heat source for KK’s steam contraptions, and why can’t/hasn’t she used it to build a steam powered electrical generator?


    Magic. And heated up goat placenta. And there's no generator because there's not enough goat placenta to go around.
    • CommentAuthorFlabyo
    • CommentTimeNov 6th 2009
     (7111.6)
    KK knows how to build steam engines cause that's what she's into. There's quite a large mental leap from 'steam powered motion' to 'steam powered electricity' after all. The first time round it's a mental gap of around 100 years (well, maybe less, been a while since I did history, was always a Geography person).

    Kaz might know how to build one, except her interests run later, she's more into the esoteric ways we tried to generate power in the post war years.

    So I think it's something they *could* have done had they scanned the right peoples heads and made the right connections, but its something they haven't actually done.

    The angels aren't omnipotent, they each have their own fields of interest within which they've learned and stolen from brains all they can, but there are vast gulfs of what we would consider to be quite obvious knowledge in there.
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      CommentAuthorBerserker
    • CommentTimeNov 6th 2009 edited
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    What's the heat source for KK’s steam contraptions, and why can’t/hasn’t she used it to build a steam powered electrical generator?

    Seeing as the bike isn't really a pivotal part of the story, it's power source is practically irrelevant. For myself, I always assumed that it was KK powered to some degree. As far as a generator goes, there's the problem of maintaining, and more importantly, fueling something that's CONSTANTLY running. In this situation, that's just not feasible at all. Where would all that fuel come from? They need something better and more perpetual than a steady supply of dead trees or coal - those options just don't exist anymore.
    I think too, that working out these problems is part of the story itself. Caz has started working on it, knowing full well from experience that wind, wave, and sunshine are far superior options both in availability and reliability alone, to say nothing of being cleaner and easier to maintain.

    Why don’t the people of Whitechapel seem to notice that everyone in charge happens to be pale and purple eyed? Are they just content enough in having a decent quality of life amidst the apocalypse that they don’t ask questions?

    I'm tempted to say that the vast majority of Whitechapel's residents probably don't know the 'Angels personally. They've maybe seen them once in a while for the most part, but overall they're busier with the day to day business of staying alive. Governance in Whitechapel strikes me as a very relaxed business anyway. Many might not even fully realize that these weird kids with all the public works projects are the ones calling the shots. And it's certainly established that they try not to be obvious about the fact that they're all psychic.

    Is Sirkka naturally purple haired as sort of a secondary mutation of whatever made her a freakangel, or is it just artistic liberties with her character?

    Overall it seems to be an affectation, or the others would be purple too. Sirkka definitely strikes me as the 'clothes horse' of the group, which is to say she'd be the most conscious about something like her eyes matching her hair.

    Similarly for Arkady, was she always bald or is it a “scar” from her drug overdose experience? Or has she just decided not having hair is easier to take care of? (I can see her shaving her head just so she wouldn’t have to fix her hair)

    The flashbacks have shown clearly that Arkady DID have hair. Intersestingly, it was also purple at the time. So maybe it IS genetic, but since there's still no mention of it and it's not really something the story hinges on I'd argue it's best just to enjoy the anime aspect of it.

    Not really a question, but why didn’t they find a more diplomatic way to deal with Luke?

    I'd say it's a basic fact that there's just some people that CAN'T be reasoned with, no matter how diplomatically they're approached. Imagine having the abilities that the FreakAngels have - I'd be a right bastard right now, I can tell you. Well, okay, even MORE of a bastard. But you get my meaning, I think. Luke isn't of a mind to reason with people, he's of a mind to make people realize that HE'S the reasonable one. There's just no talking to him.
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    What's the heat source for KK’s steam contraptions, and why can’t/hasn’t she used it to build a steam powered electrical generator?

    You know, I seem to recall that they do have generators... yep, they do.

    The conversation over the next few pages goes a way to explaining why they haven't built any big generators and set up a power grid, which is what Caz is working towards now with the solar panels and fuel cells.
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      CommentAuthormister hex
    • CommentTimeNov 8th 2009
     (7111.9)
    I think Arkady's hair being purple in the flashback was her copying Sirkka. Or maybe Sirkka copied her. And then Arkady shaved her head so that's alright.

    Whatever the bikes' power source was, it's spread out over the roof and half the street now. Largely irrelevant now. *sniff*

    Luke's a cunt and needs to be dealt with harshly. They couldn't just say "Now, look, old man, you've got to stop raping the young gels, eh? There's a good chap." Well, they COULD have said that but the shooting and fighting made it more exciting.
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      CommentAuthorkumokasumi
    • CommentTimeNov 8th 2009
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    <blockquote>There's quite a large mental leap from 'steam powered motion' to 'steam powered electricity' after all. The first time round it's a mental gap of around 100 years.</blockquote>

    Not to an engineer, there's not. As soon as you have rotary motion, you have the hard part of the generator down. "All you need" for electricity generation is a rotating magnetic flux -- either rotating coils of wire inside a stationary magnetic field or rotating magnets around coils of wire. Granted it'd be hard to do much with a rudimentary design, but if Kaz can work out the Salter's duck she's already figured out how to work with 'em.

    Though of course Purple Wyrm is already right, so I don't really know why I'm still prattling on, but there you go.
    • CommentAuthorBoyoBear
    • CommentTimeDec 9th 2009
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    Hey everyone. Weird thing, maybe, but it's been bugging me since I read episode 6 or so: What is is the "K" or hard "C" sounds in the names of all of the 'Angels?
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      CommentAuthorrickiep00h
    • CommentTimeDec 10th 2009
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    @BoyoBear - So far: writer's prerogative. Warren hasn't said much about it. While there may be something to it, he hasn't elaborated, and no one's connected the dots past "they all have hard C sounds in their names".

    I'm going to go out on a limb and say it's something similar to my great aunt, who named all her children with names starting with V. All eleven of them. Just because.
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      CommentAuthorcurb
    • CommentTimeDec 10th 2009
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    @rickiep00h - I like your aunt's style. Would you mind sharing the names? Enquiring minds want to know..
    • CommentAuthorBoyoBear
    • CommentTimeDec 10th 2009
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    @rickiep00h: Ha! I guess it could be... my family's the same way. Robert, Ryan, Roman, Russell, Roger, Riley, and Ricki. ^_^
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      CommentAuthorcity creed
    • CommentTimeDec 10th 2009
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    I dunno, it always made sense to me as being in keeping with the free-K-angels
    • CommentAuthorNakedCelt
    • CommentTimeFeb 16th 2010
     (7111.16)
    Something I've been wondering --
    Where are all the animals? Exterminators and desexing vets have been out of business for six years. Where are the hordes of rats and mice swarming through the gaps in the walls, scavenging rotten food and dead bodies? Where are the alley cats and packs of stray dogs hunting said vermin?
    A more far-fetched but perhaps more picturesque question: Where are the escapees from London Zoo and similar? Where are the deer, the bears, the monkeys and tigers and hippos (hey, if it's warm enough to grow bananas...)?
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    I suspect a lot of the animals have ended up in people's stomachs. And while it would be nigh impossible to eat the entire rat population of London the sudden(?) decrease in people would leave a lot less garbage around for them to live off and breed in.

    The animals at the Zoo might have got eat too. I seem to recall that in one of the various sieges/civil disturbances of Paris that seemed to occur regularly throughout the 19th century the animals in their zoo ended up on the dinner plates of the hungry populace. When all you've had to eat for a week is a few packets of stale crisps a nice hippo steak would look mighty appetising.

    Also it could well be down to Paul's illustration style. Someone asked a while ago why the streets of Whitechapel aren't full of garbage and debris and Paul said (something like - sorry if I'm misquoting/misinterpreting) it's just the way he prefers to draw them. Pigeons, rats and other vermin may well be there, but just aren't shown.
    • CommentAuthorfod_xp
    • CommentTimeFeb 17th 2010
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    I thought Arkady and Sirrka were both red heads, and the "freak package" just turned it purple?

    It made Caz white skinned and made her hair blond. Though I love her [Caz] hair from the flashbacks, the blond and black patches were really awesome!
    • CommentAuthordr_barnowl
    • CommentTimeFeb 18th 2010
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    I'd vote for KK powered also .. there just isn't a way for such a low-efficiency engine to carry enough fuel for it to fly around for any period. Heck, I think carrying around enough water for a practical steam engine powered gyrocoptor is a stretch. Having KK boil the water would at least eliminate the need for fuel, and stoking, and a condenser arrangement could harvest atmospheric moisture for new working fluid. Or maybe a siphon tube so she can swoop over the Thames from time to time.

    If it's KK powered though, you'd think it would just be more efficient to directly TK the rotors.

    An 'Angel powered flying machine is a useful device for working around their apparent inability to do something as simple as directly TK themselves (or presumably, something they are standing on - or KK could have saved herself from falling with a flying carpet of roof tiles).

    I like steampunk imagery (Sara013, you have a fan here ... with a hint of stalker), but a lot of the genre really is just whimsy - the reason people don't make mechanical computers and steam powered robots isn't just because modern tech makes them less efficient, in many cases, modern tech is what makes things possible at all. So I like the designs, but in stories it just breaks my suspension-of-disbelief ; if you're prepared for that, it's ok. Some stories survive it (League of Extraordinary Gentlemen), some don't (Wild Wild West). Just go easy on the Deus ex Steam-powered Machina.

    If 'Angels could master electrolysis, they could power personal effects with hydrogen turbines, or fuel cells. If Kaz is fabricating solar panels she must know some quantum physics. Arkady must be messing with some pretty fundamental forces of the universe to achieve a teleport, so I'd imagine that their powers are limited by complexity (as hinted by the relative difficulty they exhibit reading minds), but not the fundamental forces available to them.
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    So... another nitpicky question to add. If they could all combine their powers and flood the earth, couldn't they possibly combine their powers and unflood it?