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    Looking forward to it. Black Summer has been in my favorites since it started, although it did shift into an ultraviolence over matter state that I did not anticipate. But what the hell, Ellis + Ryp? Anytime.

    You two could be making a comic about a butterflies and I'd still buy it. Because the butterflies would probably be blood-thirsty bodmod addict insects from the future. Surrounded by an insane amount of detail.
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    Where did you get the cover jpg from Warren? Someone needs to change their photoshop settings for creating the jpegs. Those colors are really out of whack.

    Links to color-accurate jpegs of covers for Black Summer #5.

    Standard Cover

    Wrap Cover
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    Where did you get the cover jpg from Warren?

    William!

    (Though my converting it from tif to jpg and then Flickring it may have done some damage, I dunno)
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      CommentAuthorTed
    • CommentTimeJan 29th 2008
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    Fuck me, the colouring on the version Mark had a link to is beautiful. That's my favourite Black Summer cover so far, no question.

    Can't wait to get my grubby mitts on it...a month from now, when my postal standing order comes through.
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    Nice. I'll have more to blab about once I actually get to read it.
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      CommentAuthorZ
    • CommentTimeJan 29th 2008
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    Very exciting! Great image (regardless of any colour issues)!

    - Z
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    The husband pointed out CBR has a four page preview up.
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      CommentAuthorhyim
    • CommentTimeJan 29th 2008
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    . warrenellis wrote :
    (Though my converting it from tif to jpg and then Flickring it may have done some damage, I dunno)

    probably the vicious combo of an uncalibrated monitor and its corresponding profile, plus the ditching of the icc in the file. No straightforward tiff->jpg would shift coulours and gamma that much.

    picking black summer tomorrow, really glad issues come out juuust right when I notice the wait. Perfect.
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    probably the vicious combo of an uncalibrated monitor and its corresponding profile, plus the ditching of the icc in the file. No straightforward tiff->jpg would shift coulours and gamma that much.

    Depends on how the tiff was generated - if it was from a page layout program, and exported with cover graphics, it might have used the program's default settings, instead of pre-press settings, much like saving an image directly as jpeg in Photoshop vs using Save for Web (and devices) using document color profile will give you drastically different results when viewing in a web browser.

    I suspect Flickr doesn't help any either, as I'm sure it compresses images further, causing more shifts as Warren suggested.

    I was asking as most of those blues are so far out of gamut (i.e. unprintable on a CMYK press) that if the cover actually looked like that, I'd need to be fired. Yesterday.
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      CommentAuthorhyim
    • CommentTimeJan 29th 2008
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    I'm from a film background regarding colour spaces, so you know, not colourproofed on the print workflow but even with the hypothetical layout program's default settings, it s pretty safe to say that warren doesn't use firefox to view his tifs. So the viewer is (hopefully) doing its job between the monitor profile, the icc and the straight rgb from the file. Why it would mulch it at conversion is beyond me , unless a third program was used developed by john the colorblind kid with green coloured glasses who believes the matrix has us.
    and even then , why would one send a tiff with prepress profiles to someone who will view it on a monitor ? but then even in this case the viewer would compensate.
    I think we shouldn't be too cruel towards flickr. they support icc even in their thumbnails, knowing perfectly well browsers don't give a damn (yet. firefox 3 will support icc i believe, yay, and webkit already does) if they care enough for that it's pretty safe to say they don't shift the hue with a hammer when uploading.
    actually now that i think about it, isn't there a dime a dozen third party uploaders for flickr ? with I bet less care for the subtleties of red, green and blue...
    Your comment about you being fired yesterday if you delivered that cover looking like that made me laugh. Reminded me of my very first job, I crushed cineon plates into linear colour space. i think even the interns were yelling at me.
    anyway i better not get too much into it, as i tend to do.
    The colour proofed cover looks great, it really pushes the art up into a higher value class without muting Ryp's work. Very nice job, Mark.
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      CommentAuthorJaredRules
    • CommentTimeJan 30th 2008
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    the wrap cover is the most beautiful violence I've ever seen.
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    • CommentTimeJan 30th 2008
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    Ryp's level of detail keeps astounding me.

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