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Allen — Wed, 09 Dec 2009 23:01:03 -0800

Things they are a changing. After much talk with a friend of mine, I have decided to get back into the making magazine business, with some tweaks. This time around, in addition to using MagCloud for distribution (though we are looking for something better for PDFs) we are going to go ahead and print the blasted thing ourselves and with hopefully a few small ads (alongside more pages) continue to give out or sell for super cheap at physical shops, starting locally and moving out from there. Would also be selling them online directly from us for shipping or shipping plus a buck, still working out details. The other big change is that with us paying to print the thing, we can actually give out a copy to any contributor who is ~~crazy~~ kind enough to send us stuff to publish. As always all copyrights remain with the creator, and they are just being kind enough to let us publish their work.

So having said all of that, we need some content! We are not going to print until we have handled the details, but most importantly we aren't going until we have enough content for at least two issues, so they are ready to go, and when life eventually pops up and punches me in the face, we won't miss a beat.

Make Something is a ~~POD~~ magazine project that is designed to be an outlet for creative work. Any form of creativity that can be properly shown off in a magazine format is allowed and welcomed. Fiction, comics, artwork, photos, poetry, travelogues, whatever else you can think of. The only rules are it must be created by you (no breaking of copyrights) and no nudity.

Upcoming issues need content NOW, your work can help.

Send any and all stuff to makesomethingmag@gmail.com

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Cameron C. — Wed, 09 Dec 2009 23:15:31 -0800

Here is the link to MagCloud's publishing information:
Basic info: http://magcloud.com/help/publish
Layout Info: http://magcloud.com/help/indesign

I plan to have a four page comic for this, hopefully. Any deadline you want to shoot for? Any tech stuff we should know as far as the files we will eventually be handing to you to make things as easy on your end as possible? If I want a short creator bio thing will I have to make room on the pages I've got?

<_<; Ahem. Yes. I will work on something for this.

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Allen — Wed, 09 Dec 2009 23:59:31 -0800

Wanting to have everything done so it can be ready to be bought in late Feb, so deadline of Jan 26th, giving plenty of time for everyone to deal with the holidays. Everything will eventually have to be turned into a PDF file for the final product, but really anything I can open without having to get a specific program for it should be fine, as long as I can convert it to PDF in the end. And we are still working out the creator info part. There is thought to give a page to short Twitter sized bios, or may just put web address of your site (or however to find you) in the table of contents. It's the one issue that isn't settled, really.

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clouds of glory — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 05:54:24 -0800

I would love to take you up on this, I think it's a really good idea...

Some technical points -

I think with self publishing (which in effect is what I think this will be) we really need good editing, there's too much shoddily edited stuff out there which can really detract from the finished product.
I only want to be involved in a project with a decent editing policy, for example assuming that people cannot ever edit their own material to publisher's standards (maybe they can, but I've seen little evidence of it) - so I would suggest something like saying that people who want to contribute have to agree to edit someone else's work, and then submit it back to that person for a final agreement.
NB: I'm not talking about editing for style or length - that has to be up to the creator - but editing for spelling, punctuation, typos, and maybe grammar (though with a presumably multinational creative team that's not going to be so important or easy).

I hope people don't think I'm being elitist or snobby or whatever - I am an evangelist when it comes to self publishing, I just think there's no point doing it if you're not going to do it properly.

Second - I think that contributor's bios should be on their pages, that makes it easier for the editor, and means that they (we) can format it however we see fit.

This does sound like a great project, it just needed someone to take on responsibility for starting it, and it seems you've done it. I'll email you more details but I would like to contribute two pages (consecutive!) preferably facing each other, for a story - maybe with a graphic element - but they don't have to be facing pages, and I understand that it would be more important for picture/art based contributions to have that. In return I would be willing to edit/proof four pages from either one or two contributors...

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Illogic — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 10:14:11 -0800

I've been thinking about creating something called Morph, which would be a monthly or so magazine that switches theme completely between issues.
The first could simply be called Morph, and the theme would be transformations and change.
So, essentially you could post a comic going from pencil outlines to done and back again. (Or it could be about change as well, obviously.)
Write something about the nature of change, "you can't step into the same river twice" and all that. Write something while changing genre every 5 minutes, etc.
Take photos of construction sites, factories, decay, ruins, etc.
Know someone who wants to do a make-over, build a house or something? Document it with words and pictures.
As long as it can be fitted into the theme it's good.
I just thought I'd throw that idea out, since it seems unlikely I'd use it.
Any good?

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keyofsilence — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:58:39 -0800

If I can gank a fresh copy of Quark Xpress I'd be happy to do some design for you. I have it on my old laptop, but it's fucked (hence why it's my old laptop).

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oldhat — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 12:11:39 -0800

Sounds great! Count some photos and maybe a short story in!

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Allen — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 12:32:13 -0800

@mylightshinesapath I forgot the editing bit, between some friends and I, I have a group of people who actually enjoy editing. I will edit to add this, but yes we will look over all the little details like punctuation, grammar and the like and tell folk about it and then change it unless there is an issue, or the grammar issues is intentional. Most of the editors I know are or were pros at one point too so it shouldn't be too much of an issue to get it done, though more help is always welcome :D. The bios on the page sounds like an interesting idea. When it comes to the pages I'm thinking anyone who takes 2 or 4 pages has them together and across from one another. Since there's some neat stuff you can do with magazine design, where in some ways you have a very long page if you want to do any graphics. There will be a need for 2 or 3 single page contributions, but not so worried about getting those handed out right now.

@illogic that sounds like an interesting theme. Maybe for a future issue we could try it out? I was thinking of using themes later on once it got off the ground.

@newspaperdrone I may take you up on the offer, I have to wait to hear from someone I talked to about it several days ago, will let you know.

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kperkins — Thu, 10 Dec 2009 13:44:58 -0800

I have a one page thing that you could use.

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tcatsninfan — Sat, 12 Dec 2009 02:51:33 -0800

@Allen

How about...travel essays? It seems like a weird topic but I'm in Japan on my honeymoon right now and am forming up some words. I'm not sure what the specific theme would be just yet, and I don't know what kind of length you'd want it, but I could put some words together and maybe include one or two photos too. What do you think?

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lampcommander — Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:22:44 -0800

I would like to contribute something, and I would also be willing to edit if needed. I have a bit of experience.

Who would handle layout for this? I would love to contribute, but I can tell you right now that my abilities are pretty much limited to Word. I will also say, having put out my own mag on MagCloud, that there is a process of embedded fonts in the final pdf that is a bitch to fix unless you know what you're doing (I did not).

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keyofsilence — Sat, 12 Dec 2009 14:07:10 -0800

@lampcommander, and Allen and everyone else for that matter

If I can grab a copy of Quark Xpress on a computer that works then I'd be happy to do layout. I'd also be happy to do some sub-editing as that's my profession. What's this about embedded fonts?

We should lay out style sheets (fonts, shapes, colours etc) to maintain continuity when it comes to it.

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Allen — Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:19:39 -0800

@Oldhat, you are counted!

@kperkins, sweet, sounds good.

@tcatsninfan it sounds like something I would read, so since I think I'm final arbitrator on this, sure! I was curious about your trip to Japan thanks to the other thread anyways, and some cool pictures going with it would be cool.

@lampcommander glad to hear you want to contribute. My original plan for layout was a friend of mine to do a lot of the work and to watch over his shoulder to learn enough to do future ones myself. But: if newspaperdrone is able to pick up Quark and would like to mess with it, I wouldn't argue. I'm still going to practice and learn layout myself for the future, but want as few bumps the first time as possible.

And everyone, I need a decent guess on numbers if you haven't presented one, Either here or through the above email. Depending on some people, we have hit 28 pages claimed so it's pretty much a wrap on claiming for the first one, I would like to do a few of these over the year though, so if anyone else is interested let me know, can either have back up for this issue, fill any pages we haven't filled if the numbers aren't as I figure, or prep for the second issue.

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jackcrowder — Sat, 12 Dec 2009 20:48:44 -0800

If there is any room left, I'd love to partake. Either within this or a future one.

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Finagle — Sun, 13 Dec 2009 07:19:06 -0800

At some point I feel the need to put out an issue of "SMILE Magazine," under the Monty Cantsin byline.

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Charlene — Sun, 13 Dec 2009 09:48:30 -0800

@lampcommander and anyone else. desktop publishing used to be my 'thing' til I changed career direction so if you need any help with layout you can get me at dark_cloud at hotmail - the co.uk version.

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city creed — Sun, 13 Dec 2009 10:22:10 -0800

I have QuarkXpress 5.0 (old) here and some experience of using it for mag layouts.
Would love to get involved, thinking about possible content...

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texture — Sun, 13 Dec 2009 11:58:41 -0800

Would you like some content from Weaponizer? Citruscreed suggested we do a 2-page spread for you with some sample content. I quite like the idea of printing and illustrating some Twitter fiction. Up for this? I can design on InDesign.

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Allen — Sun, 13 Dec 2009 16:34:44 -0800

@jackcrowder, I'm waiting for exact counts from people, for this issue, but have you down for something in either or, will let you know.

@Charlene, will add your email to the one I created for this, and will let you know, I'd like all the layout duties sorted out before December is over, though I have to confess having so many offers for help is far from a bad place to be :)

@citruscreed as stated above, will get that sorted out asap. And as for content if not this issue, then the next one! I just came up with a solid idea for what I'm going to do last night when I should of been sleeping.

@texture that would be very cool, I think. As stated above, if not this one, then the follow up issue (I'm thinking bi-monthly, s would be coming out in April) will let you know.

And overall, what free time I have this week will be focused on settling all the contributors to a set page number and make sure the page count is at 28, and then will start handing over for the next one, also I will be setting up a dedicated wordpress for this. After Wednesday I will get to the layout and editorial duties. I plan on splitting the editing between a few people for quick turn around. Also, just received the first page of actual content in my email from kperkins which is quite pretty. Any other questions can be brought up here, or through makesomethingmag @ gmail, I make sure to check both daily at least.

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Charlene — Sun, 13 Dec 2009 23:20:19 -0800

Is it only 2 or 4 pages allowed? i have a little 1 page comic that i'd offer up for this. if not, i could possible turn it into a 2 page comic. I'd like to be put down for the next issue since I believe the first one is full. or you can have me on standby for this first issue ;-)

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sebfowler — Sun, 13 Dec 2009 23:45:49 -0800

I've got a few things I'd like to contribute for the next one. I've been doing some illustrated flash fiction which may or may not be appropriate. If you need any help with Wordpress, let me know.
http://sebfowler.com

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Allen — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 00:05:49 -0800

@Charlene, 2 and 4 are not the only options. I am just saying those the most frequently because the cool aspect of magazines (at least in my mind) is the designs you can do to unite a spread visually. Due to some essential aspects, like table of contents, and quick author bios (so everyone knows where to check out more of your cool stuff, even in just the 2-4 page format there will be need for one page pieces. And of course if someone has something that is perfect for a single page, would be silly of me to not include it due to it not being an even number of pages. Um... so yes, long round about one page is just fine and welcome, actually the only two finished products I have right now are one pagers, the cover and kpatrick's piece is also one page.

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texture — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 01:28:25 -0800

Allen, I will knock something up for the next issue. Will have it in your inbox as soon as poss.

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clouds of glory — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 01:56:17 -0800

Okay I'm going to write a short story, and do a basic layout for it, with pictures, but if the layout doesn't seem great feel free to change it around (I don't have any decent dtp at home unfortunately)...

PS, I don't know if anyone else is going for a theme but I thought I would do a story based around "make something".

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texture — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 02:16:05 -0800

I've decided to go with a 2 page spread of Twitter-length Flash Fiction, with illustrations. Submit @weaponizer!

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Charlene — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 08:28:37 -0800

is it full colour or black and white?

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Cameron C. — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 09:07:06 -0800

Magcloud charges the same either way so color should be optional for everyone.

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remotepush — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 13:13:55 -0800

i could be up for contributing. need to see what my brain spits out in the near future.
if in doubt i might just cop out and go with the twitter fiction option...

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Allen — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 14:11:07 -0800

WIll respond to everything I have missed fully later, just stopped by to point to the preview of the first cover preview of the first cover, will make the blog prettier as the week goes on, just wanted the basics running.

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Charlene — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 16:53:14 -0800

Hate to be negative but I'm not fond of the logo. I was thinking something more DIY-style rather than a script font would be more suitable? I think if this is going to be done, we should make it as pro looking as possible. That cover doesn't really do it for me. (sorry sorry sorry)

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Allen — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 18:01:37 -0800

@Charlene actually that isn't the set logo. My idea is to not have a standard logo and let whoever is doing the cover adapt it as they see fit. The tree came from me describing a lot of the themes and ideology that seems to have sprung up around the Get Excited and Make Things meme and also Ariana's POD discussions (manifesto), getting out of this old decade and changing and growing as we move into the next ten years. I'm quite sure the next cover will look completely different as will the following one.

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oldhat — Mon, 14 Dec 2009 19:14:35 -0800

Aw crap, did I miss the call for dibs on the first issue?

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jeffkevlar — Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:30:18 -0800

If I've missed the boat for the first issue I have something I would like to put into the second. A short, weird comic thing I had no idea what I'd do with. It would need four pages though.

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Charlene — Tue, 15 Dec 2009 20:33:07 -0800

@Allen - do you think it's a good idea though to not have a set logo? Magazines tend to have a standard logo and for a reason... :/ I think it'd be worth having a look at some of the magazine covers already on there to get an idea of what we should be aiming for in terms of quality.

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Allen — Tue, 15 Dec 2009 21:36:56 -0800

@jefflevlar, no problem on getting 4 pages for the second issue sir.

@Charlene it's probably a horrid and stupid idea. But I think it works better for the idea and the experiment (currently I'm planning on doing 6 issues over the course of the year then evaluating jumping out or not come next holiday season). A standard logo is something that is very important to most magazines, but they are also things to help identify and catch the eye on newsstands where a lot of times all you can see is the logo and that's it, so when you're hunting for a new issue of a favorite magazine you hunt for the familiar logo. I also kind of find a set logo to not necessarily inhibit but it does deny some cover design possibilities. Which is fine with a more focused view, but with what is essentially a literary magazine that has (in the first issue alone, and this is all off the top of my head) comics, an cross hatched ink drawing, a travel journal of Japan, photographs, a short story, and poetry, I don't know exactly how to set a logo up for that. I am working hard on labeling it and promoting it, and I know a logo does assist in that. But I really don't want any cover to look like another, why? Because no issue is going to really be like another, since the variety of people contributing and what they are passionate about. Like I said, I'm sure it's a mad mad idea and will shoot me in the foot, but it's how I see it. I pretty much want the only connection from one issue to the next to be the title and the concept, for people to make cool shit and present it to the world. And wow I rambled on a bit, and I apologize if certain bits don't make sense, when I'm less tired I will do my best to clarify any other possible issues.

Oh, and another general announcement, for anyone who is submitting, when you send the email, please include a quick bio/pimpage statement, no more then 220 characters please. Thank you.

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Charlene — Wed, 16 Dec 2009 09:00:30 -0800

@Allen I understand what you're saying but I will have to respectfully disagree :P You obviously have a lot of thoughts on this. I'm just wondering why you feel this particular title design of the magazine, being simply a script font, is more suitable for what's inside than having a logo? The script font says nothing about what's inside, which I think is where your argument fails. It's essentially a creative magazine, as opposed to for example a more "news" based magazine or information magazine. I think a logo could be created for that purpose without the need for changing it every issue. The quality of a cover can say a lot about the quality of what's inside. Currently, I wouldn't look at that cover and then decide to buy the magazine because to be honest it looks like it was thrown together in 10 minutes. I'll not go on about it though :P It's your call.

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Allen — Thu, 17 Dec 2009 15:45:10 -0800

The first post has been edited to include information on editing, and other little details. But the other important thing, my marketing/PR brain bits have demanded there be a logo. It has beaten the artistic aspects to a pulp. As such I am running a logo design contest starting now until January 17th. In addition to the winning logo being plastered all over the blog and at least 6 magazine issues, I'm going to throw some kind of prize in there, even if it's just a small bit of cash. I'm sure it will be cooler then that, but if I fail to find something in the next month that's what it will be. I'd been having the argument about a logo or not with myself long before Charlene or anyone else (two people I chatted with about the idea before I really tossed it out there said needs a logo as well). It is easier to market a logo/brand, blah blah blah. So if you are the designing type, I need a logo to go onto the top of that cover! Thank you.

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Ashflex — Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:48:41 -0800

I would love to contribute to a future edition, probably a short story, so I expect I would only need one page.
Also,
@texture Whats the best way to send you a twitter length flash fiction? If your still taking entries?

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texture — Fri, 18 Dec 2009 02:14:48 -0800

@Allen - from experience, having a really awesome logo (thanks Paul!) is well worth it, even just for your own enjoyment, but also Charlene makes a good point.

@Ashflex - Yep, entries accepted up to 31st Dec, and you can either email me editor.weaponizer[at]gmail.com, or send as a DM or @reply to twitter.com/weaponizer. Cheers!

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jeffkevlar — Fri, 18 Dec 2009 06:56:19 -0800

I'll put my vote in for a good logo. Just look at the weaponizer one. That turned out awesome.

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James Puckett — Fri, 18 Dec 2009 22:19:24 -0800

If you guys need some help with the masthead (logo) I am a typeface designer and I’d be happy to help out with the lettering. Here are a few fonts I’ve got in the cooker…

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Ariana — Fri, 18 Dec 2009 22:24:46 -0800

Ooh, James -- that third one might be the best type you've done (that I've seen). It's a chubbier Downturn, isn't it?

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(I think, if wanted a dynamic logo without losing the recognition of a static brand, I'd have the word SOMETHING designed with a strong, easily recognizable branding that carried across each issue -- and I'd have the artist of each month's cover write, draw, paint, papercraft, whatever the word MAKE.)

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keyofsilence — Sat, 19 Dec 2009 03:35:32 -0800

Seconding Ariana's idea.

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Ashflex — Sat, 19 Dec 2009 05:53:28 -0800

I like Ariana's idea very much, consider it thirded.

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James Puckett — Sat, 19 Dec 2009 05:57:17 -0800

…It's a chubbier Downturn, isn't it…

Yes, that’s the “mega” weight. It will be getting released when I expand the character set next year. If you want to play with it drop me a line at jp@dunwichtype.com

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Charlene — Sat, 19 Dec 2009 12:07:51 -0800

I'll 4th Ariana's idea.

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Yskaya — Sat, 19 Dec 2009 20:05:20 -0800

PS, I don't know if anyone else is going for a theme but I thought I would do a story based around "make something".

Cooking up a one page/2pager comic as I write. If MSM is filled put me in que for the nxt one, please Alan :) This is fun.

and yes: I'll 5th Ariana's Idea. :)

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Allen — Sun, 20 Dec 2009 18:32:30 -0800

Blech, somehow my weekend went from free to very very busy. I also like Ariana's idea (so I guess I 6th her idea), it's a good compromise between logo and giving the cover people more freedom. So it comes down to what the SOMETHING will look like then. I am a bit partial to the third font James put up above, myself. Though am curious about the other possible fonts you may have, sir.

I got a growing list of who has said they want to contribute, post holidays (or before if you got time) would like updates from folk so I know where it's all headed.

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Cameron C. — Sat, 02 Jan 2010 17:23:09 -0800

I was sick the week leading up to Christmas and then again I've got an annoyingly terrible cold/flu/thing but I'm in the middle of my piece.

I can't find the post where you mention the deadline, though?

And it's alright if my pages are black all the way to the trimmed edge, right?

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Allen — Sat, 02 Jan 2010 17:36:17 -0800

@sgrsickness, hope you feel better soon.

Jan 26th is the deadline for the first issue.

I don't believe that would be too much of an issue, no.

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Twist — Sat, 02 Jan 2010 19:29:18 -0800

Hmmm, completely unrelated to submissions but is there anyone who'd be willing to put there hand up to send one of the mag's to me when it's released?

Mag cloud don't ship to Australia, and I'd be happy to pay for postage from where ever on top of the Magcloud postage to you, and for my copy of the Make Something obviously.

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Cameron C. — Sat, 02 Jan 2010 21:04:53 -0800

I probably can do that when the time comes, if no one else. Shouldnt be a problem.

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Twist — Sat, 02 Jan 2010 21:33:14 -0800

Thank you sgrsickness.

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clouds of glory — Tue, 05 Jan 2010 05:30:53 -0800

Well my home laptop is almost completely dead, but my story is on it's second draft, and all I have to do is sneak in early and do a couple of lunchtime shifts and it should be good for the 26th...

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oldhat — Tue, 05 Jan 2010 16:34:25 -0800

I have two pictures to send you. Do I have to adapt them to the page or can I just give them to you? They'll most likely be landscape pics and take up each of their respective pages.

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Charlene — Tue, 05 Jan 2010 19:39:27 -0800

I think everyone should fit their piece to the proper dimensions...

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Allen — Wed, 06 Jan 2010 11:53:17 -0800

@oldhat if you can put it in the dimensions that would be great, if not can do it. but less work to put it together would be fantastic.

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oldhat — Sun, 10 Jan 2010 14:09:21 -0800

Tried e-mail, but I guess I'll try here too...

- When is the deadline for submissions to the first issue?
- What format do you want these files in? I'm assuming TIFF, but confirmation would be nice.

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Allen — Sun, 10 Jan 2010 15:01:13 -0800

@oldhat Preoccupied with football today, sorry. I just replied to your email, that format works. And deadline is Jan 26th.

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Allen — Tue, 12 Jan 2010 23:58:33 -0800

So as of yesterday the deadline for the first issue is two weeks away. If anyone who was set to contribute to the first issue isn't going to make the deadline, please let me know either through here or email. Anyone who is wanting to contribute in the future (there will be at least 6 issues of this) feel free to contact or send things to the MakeSomethingmag @ gmail.com expect a day or two lapse in response time.

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texture — Fri, 15 Jan 2010 02:58:27 -0800

I'm aiming for Issue 2 Allen. If you need ot for Issue 1 tho, it's probably do-able.

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Allen — Fri, 15 Jan 2010 11:15:27 -0800

@Texture, issue 2 is fine.

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Cameron C. — Mon, 25 Jan 2010 23:59:40 -0800

HEY ALLEN I JUST EMAILED YOU AT 11:58 JANUARY 25TH

>:D

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Allen — Wed, 27 Jan 2010 10:03:17 -0800

So quick question (as I wait on late submissions) throughout this thread lots of people offered to help with editing, who is still up for helping out? I know over two months life can change and less free time. Either leave a message here or email me at makesomethingmag AT gmail

If you're part of those late folks, if I have a method of contacting you I will be here in a few otherwise, please CONTACT ME. Even if it's to say, "shit, I'm out", I'd like to know how many pages still need to be filled.

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lampcommander — Wed, 27 Jan 2010 12:57:37 -0800

I'd be down for editing.

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keyofsilence — Wed, 27 Jan 2010 15:27:46 -0800

Also up for some editing.

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Winther — Wed, 27 Jan 2010 15:41:20 -0800

I wasn't one of the folks who originally offered editing assistance, but I'd love to lend a hand, should you need one.

Full disclosure, I'm Danish, so English isn't my first language (...obviously). I'd call myself fluent, though. And I've proofread English texts before.

E-mail and twitter accounts are in the profile.

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oldhat — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 13:25:55 -0800

ARGH INDESIGN KEEPS CRASHING ON ME.

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Allen — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 14:11:16 -0800

Kick it in the face!

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Cameron C. — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 16:17:39 -0800

AND THEN KICK IT AGAIN >:O

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oldhat — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 18:08:51 -0800

I AM IT'S NOT WORKING

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Charlene — Sat, 30 Jan 2010 06:27:36 -0800

How many pages need filling? The one I sent you was penciled in for the 2nd issue but you can use it this issue if you need the pages filled.

I can also do editing.

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James Puckett — Sat, 30 Jan 2010 11:11:26 -0800

@oldhat Try copy/pasting all articles into individual files and only comp them together at the end. This way you reduce your risk of file corruption and when something does go bad it’s easy to find the cause of the problem/

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Allen — Sat, 30 Jan 2010 15:53:49 -0800

At present there are 9 pages that need to be filled, plus a back cover image. This is counting @oldhat's contribution which is just hitting technical snafus. I'll be sending out things to editors either late Sunday night or Monday afternoon.

If anyone has something they would like to contribute and can do so in short notice please do, at worse I put it in the second issue instead.

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keyofsilence — Mon, 01 Feb 2010 02:59:39 -0800

@Allen, I guess giving you my email address would help.

ant.whitton at gmail dot com

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Allen — Fri, 05 Feb 2010 17:49:31 -0800

@lampcommander, I don't believe I have your email, could you contact me one way or another so I know? thanks.

In general news everything is going through editing right now, have two more pieces that need to be looked at, and waiting to hear back from one of the editors. So things should still be all done and magazine should be out by end of the month. Yay!

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oldhat — Fri, 05 Feb 2010 20:43:08 -0800

Hey Allen, I sent you an e-mail a little while ago. You should have my pages!

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Allen — Sat, 06 Feb 2010 00:52:11 -0800

@oldhat I got it. Didn't have time to open it to make sure I got it all and could open it.

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oldhat — Sat, 06 Feb 2010 07:00:32 -0800

um...that led to a link that expires soon...fiels were to big to mail so I had to upload it on to sendspace...

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JP Stargazer — Sat, 06 Feb 2010 08:45:23 -0800

@Allen & everyone: I've been and will be out of contact for a little while, but this sounds like a very neat project. SO, count me in... someday. :)
Can't wait to see issue 1!!!

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lampcommander — Sat, 06 Feb 2010 09:15:55 -0800

Sure thing, still down to edit.

dmillwee @ gmail

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Allen — Sat, 06 Feb 2010 14:01:56 -0800

@oldhat, yeah I got it downloaded and opened, all good.

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Allen — Tue, 16 Feb 2010 17:13:30 -0800

Updates and such.

Working on layout now. Still probably going to be another day or two until I'm completely done and think it's acceptable. Going to have someone double check my work and see if they can offer better suggestions. So first issue should be ready to order right before the end of the month.

The next issue! Very much seeking content for issue number 2. Anyone interested speak up, or just send me an email at makesomethingmag@gmail.com I am hoping for submissions to not be as late, so I won't be telling folks issue 2 is full. Whatever doesn't go into the second one will go right into the third and people will be notified as such.

Deadline for issue #2 is March 31st 11:59 PM.

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texture — Wed, 17 Feb 2010 03:35:51 -0800

Great stuff Allen! Cant wait to see the first issue.

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Allen — Thu, 25 Feb 2010 15:32:48 -0800

And the first issue is now available for PURCHASE!!!!!

Was very shocked that the cheapest shipping still ended up arriving to my door in 4 days and I ordered on a Sunday! It's quite pretty, and there were only three mistakes that I noticed in the proof which made me very damn happy. Hopefully any remaining are very minor *crosses fingers*

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Munin — Thu, 25 Feb 2010 16:10:34 -0800

Congrats Allen and all the contributors on the first issue! This thread made me assemble my own thing through magcloud (to be released later this month) so kudos to you all. I will be eagerly awaiting its arrival at my doorstep.

@Allen
While I was assembling my thing I learned few formatting tricks that I feel could benefit your design , if you are interested and nobody thinks an amateur critique on a labor of love is in poor taste, maybe I could give some pointers or help with layouts for the next issue?
No PM system here so email me at munin.03 at hotmail if interested.

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Charlene — Sat, 27 Feb 2010 11:28:50 -0800

Ordered my copy last night :) Less than £5 including postage to the UK.

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Cameron C. — Sat, 27 Feb 2010 13:37:06 -0800

I ORDERED MINE ALREADY, TOO.

Also I have a pretty awesome 4 page comic in it. I hope that doesnt dissuade you people from picking up a copy >:O

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tcatsninfan — Wed, 03 Mar 2010 21:15:55 -0800

So I just ordered my copy of Issue 1 along with Strange Light. I'm looking around for some other MagCloud mags I might buy...anyone have any recommendations?

Also, FYI there's a spring sale going on at MagCloud. All "full priced" magazines are 25% off until March 21st.

Can't wait to get it!

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Charlene — Thu, 04 Mar 2010 05:11:35 -0800

I got my copy today *thumbs up*

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Cameron C. — Thu, 04 Mar 2010 08:22:52 -0800

what the heck! Where is miiiiine :(

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tcatsninfan — Thu, 04 Mar 2010 20:00:26 -0800

@Allen

Approximately how many words can a short story be for 4 pages in the mag? I know the font/mag size/margins can vary quite a bit so I thought I'd ask.

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tcatsninfan — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 20:42:19 -0800

My copy of issue 1, according to FedEx, departed a facility in Portland, OR on March 6th and hasn't been received anywhere since. I know these updates usually all flood in at once but it seems like it could've gotten here a little sooner. Supposed to be here by March 12th. We'll see.

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Cameron C. — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 20:50:26 -0800

I ordered mine about two weeks ago and havent gotten it yet. MagCloud forgot to include my space number so when it got here it couldnt be delivered and was returned. Saw it was returned via the fedex tracking, sent MagCloud a support ticket and within the hour got a response (And was told it was mis-addressed). They said they were gonna overnight it to me and I should have it tomorrow.

Can't wait :3

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steevo — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 20:53:22 -0800

I go mine a few days ago, love it.

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brittanica — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 23:04:17 -0800

Got mine today, very awesome stuff.

sgrsickness, I do have to say your comic was the highlight. Was really touching.

And great job everyone! Thanks to Allen for this; I know I've nothing to contribute to the making of it, but I do love watching things like this come together. (Insert sappy "I love Whitechapel" speech)

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texture — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 03:05:12 -0800

Just saw my first draft spread for #2. Looking pretty cool! Will have final copy to you very soon Allen.

EDIT - sent it over this evening. Let me know if there are any problems!

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Cameron C. — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:51:57 -0800

Many, many appreciative <3s for brittanica :3

It was on my porch when I got home today!
And guess what? It looks to be pretty awesome so far. The piece on Japan is funny ><

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tcatsninfan — Sat, 13 Mar 2010 19:18:44 -0800

@sgrsickness

Thanks for the compliment on the Japan article. I'm hoping to move there and write similar stuff regularly. Moving to Japan is complicaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaated...

Anyway. Word to the wise: don't get the cheapest shipping on MagCloud. The magazines (I also ordered Strange Light) came in a thin ass FedEx envelope with no cardboard inside...both magazines were creased and wrinkled to a ridiculous degree.

Thankfully, though, I emailed their customer support and they're going to send me new copies with upgraded shipping to prevent any other issues. Good show.

Great work on the magazine though. If I could offer one bit of constructive criticism though, what's up with the fonts in the magazine? I expected serif fonts considering it's a printed work. I'm not a typographer or anything but I've always been under the impression that serif fonts were for print and sans serif fonts were for online. The font size was also pretty large, at certain points I felt like I was reading a large print book.

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Allen — Sun, 14 Mar 2010 00:56:26 -0800

@tcatsninfan I do not know typography or fonts really, though I shall now go forth and look into that I just started learning InDesign about two months before I did layouts for this issue, tried to get someone more experienced or smarter then me to do it and that fell through with various people so I just tried it myself, that is one of a dozen or so mistakes I can see now with just an extra month with the program, which doesn't even count the other dozen or so mistakes I fixed after getting the proof, and again when I had to fix things to get a name I screwed up right. One of those mistakes was the font size, which I had screwed up in an earlier version just to get some page length ideas, and sent the wrong PDF to MagCloud, it should be fixed for all new orders, I sadly can't check this at the moment as InDesign is acting stupid.

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Charlene — Sun, 14 Mar 2010 04:54:29 -0700

I offered to help with layout. I did a 2 year course in DP for print. Offer is still there.

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Cameron C. — Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:09:35 -0700

I just submitted something for issue 2 :)

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Twist — Tue, 30 Mar 2010 20:54:25 -0700

MagCloud still don't ship to Australia.

Is there anyone willing to order a copy and post it my way?? I'll pay all costs f course but... gah! WANTS!

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Cameron C. — Wed, 31 Mar 2010 09:36:46 -0700

oof! Oh yeah, I can do this! email me sgrsickness at gmail dot com. Can you just pay me back via paypal? Send me your address and Ill order a new copy for you and ship it out as soon as i get it.

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Allen — Wed, 07 Apr 2010 21:21:49 -0700

Finally got a cover for the next issue! Check it out!

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texture — Fri, 09 Apr 2010 03:30:33 -0700

Awesome cover

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Allen — Wed, 05 May 2010 21:22:07 -0700

So things got a little bit delayed with the second issue, first work dramas, then prepping for the Fall semester, and now finals. So with everything else the magazine fell by the way side.

But I didn't mean to post and just bitch about things being busy. I am still 6 pages of content away from a full magazine, so I could use a little bit of help on that front. I especially am looking for a back cover of some sorts.

In case you're curious what will be in the next issue, I currently I have the following in hand (some of the text needs to get a quick proofread) two short stories, a travel log that I still need to go through the photos of to get down to around 4 pages, and two spreads of short fiction which includes the awesome twitfic that Texture gathered through Weaponizer, a comic, and then the cover I posted a month ago.

I have been laying the issue out as I have gotten things to get a general idea of space, and so not to have to cram everything in at the last minute, so the next issue should hopefully be out in the next two or three weeks one way or another. I figure if I can't get to 28 pages I will just cut off to the nearest page count that is divisible by 4 and go from there.

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texture — Thu, 06 May 2010 04:18:30 -0700

I've got another short story or two I could submit, but it sounds like your're pretty full with fiction already...?

Cheers for all the hard work Allen, cant wait to see ish 2

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Allen — Sun, 06 Jun 2010 14:00:23 -0700

Update: just sent off for the proof for the second issue, so it should be up and for sale by the end of the week as long as I didn't screw anything major up. I'm very happy with how it came out, and just have a few minor changes to make (proof reading everything again etc). I will also be reworking the first issue to improve all the errors and problems that were done due to me still not knowing what the fuck I was really doing at the time. I'm planning on rereleasing the first issue as a free downloadable PDF after it's all fixed as well as uploading it to Magcloud for anyone who wants a hard copy.

Beyond that, eyes are now set on #3 and making it a faster process, I do have enough content for a few pages, but definitely need more. A big reason this issue was held up was a lack of material to use, so I have been working on spreading the word and asking anyone I know to do so as well, any help on that front would be very helpful. More cool creative work is always helpful.

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Cameron C. — Mon, 07 Jun 2010 14:49:31 -0700

HECK YEAH

I really liked that cover for 2, also. B)

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texture — Mon, 07 Jun 2010 16:32:32 -0700

Can't wait to see the finished product.

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Allen — Mon, 14 Jun 2010 21:48:37 -0700

The second issue is now finished and is available through the Magcloud website right here. I think the whole thing looks much better than the first issue, and the improvements I made on my end also allowed for more actual content to be included. Hopefully everyone enjoys and thanks a lot to everyone who helped out.

Tomorrow begins my pursuit for getting everything together for a third issue.

Edited to add: MagCloud is also running a 25% off sale throughout the month of June if you use the code DADGRAD.

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Cameron C. — Tue, 15 Jun 2010 13:25:13 -0700

sat down and just flipped through the preview on the magcloud site, looks very very nice . cant wait to get my copy >8D
The Weaponizer layout looks particularly rad.

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clouds of glory — Wed, 16 Jun 2010 01:59:33 -0700

I've just ordered both issues, looking forward to it!

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emonster — Wed, 16 Jun 2010 08:58:35 -0700

Just ordered #2, looks great.

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clouds of glory — Tue, 22 Jun 2010 04:11:36 -0700

I've just ordered both issues, looking forward to it!

Just 6 days later they've both dropped through my door, these are my first magcloud purchases, but they certainly wont be my last! Really nice production quality, nice paper, etc.

Also great content, they won't be my last issues of Make Something either.

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texture — Sat, 26 Jun 2010 11:33:56 -0700

Hey Allen, great job mate, the magazine looks absolutely killer. Really impressed with the quality of submissions, the design and the print quality. Thanks very much for letting me be involved.

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flecky — Sat, 26 Jun 2010 13:30:09 -0700

i haven't read the whole thread but it's really cheered me up to see a great idea succeed

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flecky — Sat, 26 Jun 2010 13:31:25 -0700

i will have to order an issue. I would love to submit a real short story.. but then again who wouldn't.. i've got ideas hitting my brain about getting funding.. will read thread properly.

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Allen — Sun, 27 Jun 2010 21:33:30 -0700

Glad everyone has liked the second issue, I was actually flipping through it earlier and very damn happy with it as well. I really haven't put much time, thought, or effort into the third issue yet, so I will start doing that tonight in hopes that the third issue will come out much sooner then the second one. :)

@texture, no sir thank YOU for putting together the whole Twitfic affair together. During the time I was just hoping for enough content to be submitted, I would read one of the entries on there and just think that nearly a dozen people had submitted stories already. So eventually with more poking, prodding, and begging (not too proud to admit it) more would come through the pipeline.

@flecky just send your story to makesomethingmag@gmail.com. Along with a 220ish character bio. The piece should be anywhere between one page to six pages long once laid out, which is about a page and a half to twelve/thirteen pages in a word document.

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texture — Mon, 28 Jun 2010 02:18:18 -0700

My pleasure Allen. Might send you something longer for the next ish.

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Charlene — Mon, 28 Jun 2010 03:25:51 -0700

when's the deadline for #3?

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Allen — Mon, 28 Jun 2010 11:09:37 -0700

The deadline is whenever I hit 28 pages of appropriate content, including a nice front and back cover image. It's a serendipitous method but it seems to work, and stresses me out less. With work, school, internship, and an intense shooting schedule for a web series, less stress on something does help me out immensely.

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Allen — Tue, 29 Jun 2010 21:40:21 -0700

Issue number one is now available completely free for your viewing and downloading pleasure right here I went over things, messed with fonts, and fixed the story layouts I did (they were horrible and detracted from the really great work). So it's all better now, and is 4 pages shorter! The revised issue is also up at the MagCloud page for anyone who would want a hard copy.

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Allen — Tue, 03 Aug 2010 20:45:20 -0700

Update: I am in the middle of getting the third issue together, though still need a few things to make it whole. These include a front cover, a back cover (which is now a full page minus an inch at the bottom instead of the old two thirds of a page), and a few pages to fill in the center. What I have so far is as always fantastic work, and I need more of it! This issue is the opposite of last issue, I am really lacking in any form of prose this time around, so a good written piece or two would be very helpful, though don't let that discourage any other form of work, every kind of creative work is welcomed. If it doesn't end up fitting here due to too much similar content, there is always issue four!

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luckycreature — Wed, 04 Aug 2010 16:12:17 -0700

Allen, just sent you a short story I had in file, and an image for the back cover. Hopefully youll be interested in one of them. Thanks!

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krakatoakatie — Wed, 04 Aug 2010 17:46:00 -0700

Ooh how does one offer work to be included? Primarily photographer here, but I also have paintings and embroidery and poetry. kt dot cowden at gmail

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Allen — Wed, 04 Aug 2010 19:20:44 -0700

@luckycreature I shall check them both momentarilly and let you know, thanks a lot for sending them!

@krakatoakatie I was a complete moron and deleted the email for submissions on the front page (it's makesomethingmag@gmail.com) but will email you in a few.

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Allen — Thu, 05 Aug 2010 21:16:24 -0700

Cover for #3 is all set. Painted by Krakatoakatie (who has some more work inside the issue itself)

The rest of the issue is about halfway filled. Still could use some more stuff for anyone just coming to the thread (or has been around but hasn't submitted anything). A nice sized short story would be fantastic btw (any fiction would, or pictures, art, or anything else) really anything that is creative.

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Denari — Fri, 06 Aug 2010 01:30:14 -0700

Nice work Katie.

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texture — Fri, 06 Aug 2010 03:22:10 -0700

Katie, that's beautiful mate.

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krakatoakatie — Fri, 06 Aug 2010 07:11:56 -0700

thanks! I actually did it a few years ago but now I feel inspired to get back into watercolors.

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emonster — Fri, 06 Aug 2010 10:14:39 -0700

Beautiful cover. Nice job, Katie.

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Cameron C. — Fri, 06 Aug 2010 10:31:24 -0700

AAAHHH!!

This weekend i WILL finish something for this issue (hopefully ;_; )

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Allen — Fri, 06 Aug 2010 11:05:07 -0700

You definitely should get back into doing watercolors again, Katie.

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Sonny — Fri, 06 Aug 2010 11:20:10 -0700

So are you done yet w/ issue #3, Allen? Or can I still send you something?

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Allen — Fri, 06 Aug 2010 11:49:34 -0700

Still not quite done. There are still pages left for issue #3 (and even when it is full and complete, still planning on doing three more issues!)

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allana — Fri, 06 Aug 2010 19:40:06 -0700

Allen, feel free to hit me for copyediting this time around. i really should've written that travelog about cuba by now, but this was a long hot summer.

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luckycreature — Sat, 07 Aug 2010 11:32:48 -0700

Katie,
Wonderful cover art. Congrats!

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Grabnorg — Sat, 07 Aug 2010 19:06:20 -0700

I really like this. Way cool idea, i plan on sending some things in.

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Allen — Sat, 07 Aug 2010 20:49:23 -0700

So our esteemed virtual land lord and all around love swami ended up linking this thread on his site today, which has greatly increased the number of submissions I received today. Which once I go through everything, means the third issue is pretty much covered.

Now having said that, do please continue sending stuff my way for the magazine. While the stuff I have right now will more then fill up the third issue, the rest of it will go into issue four, and if people continue to submit I won't have to go on my pleading and begging drive for the next issue which can lead to releasing an issue much sooner.

So any art, writing, comics, or anything else that is created and can be presented in a magazine, send my way. I'm also thinking about adding an interview every issue and would be very interested if anyone would be willing to do a piece on their creative process with pictures if they work in a field that lends itself to images.

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williamowen — Sat, 07 Aug 2010 21:07:15 -0700

Terrific work on this. I love the concept and the execution: do it, make it, move on to the next thing. Fantastic stuff.

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Allen — Fri, 20 Aug 2010 14:26:41 -0700

Update, issue #2 is now available for free right here, and #3 will be out very shortly.

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Allen — Sat, 18 Sep 2010 19:49:40 -0700

Make Something #3 is now available for purchase, and Magcloud is also running a 25% off sale for the rest of the month, so perfect timing.
This issue features artwork, fiction, comics, and a manifesto from a variety of talented people, most of which are either Whitechapel regulars or found the call for submission thanks to Warren putting it onto his site. So really you are getting quality work from those you know ~~and love~~.
Oh and there's a Space Shark in there too, and it looks awesome on the printed page... AWESOME!!!

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Cameron C. — Sat, 18 Sep 2010 20:36:03 -0700

hmm.... delicious B)

Ill have to order mine in a little bit, but hopefully Ill get it in not too long! It looks to be another great one :O

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Ryan S Thomason — Sun, 19 Sep 2010 05:39:33 -0700

ordered :D

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steevo — Sun, 19 Sep 2010 09:53:35 -0700

Looks great, Allen. Just ordered one.

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texture — Sun, 19 Sep 2010 12:43:44 -0700

Sweet. Will order as soon as I get paid. Yay Space Shark!

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Sonny — Sun, 19 Sep 2010 13:07:41 -0700

Yes Al! I'll probably be ordering numerous copies tomorrow. And yes, Texture, Space Shark DOES rule.

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texture — Tue, 21 Sep 2010 12:16:46 -0700

@Sonny: I tried to make a Venn Diagram that would prove the above statement but I am reeeeally crap at Photoshop.

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krakatoakatie — Fri, 24 Sep 2010 15:35:56 -0700

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Grabnorg — Fri, 24 Sep 2010 18:21:13 -0700

Mine is in the mail, excited to see it.

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clouds of glory — Sun, 26 Sep 2010 07:58:15 -0700

Lovely cover.

I will order it, as soon as I get back from the Baltic.

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emonster — Tue, 28 Sep 2010 09:26:21 -0700

Got mine. Awesome. Great job, Allen and all.

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Allen — Wed, 29 Sep 2010 22:22:59 -0700

Very happy to hear people are enjoying it!

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RadioGuy — Wed, 06 Oct 2010 19:34:41 -0700

Hopefully just a temporary thing, but I'm getting a DNS error for zombieconversational.com when I tried to check the above links for issues 1 and 2.

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Allen — Wed, 06 Oct 2010 22:43:21 -0700

Yes it is a temporary thing, but as I'm not 100% sure when I will have excess monies to get the server back up, I have put the first two issues up on Scribd. Here are the links, issue 1 and issue 2.

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RadioGuy — Thu, 07 Oct 2010 00:48:41 -0700

Cheers, thanks for the links.

How much do you need for the server? Seems like this thread is well-loved around here, and I suspect people would be willing to chip in to assist.

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Cameron C. — Thu, 07 Oct 2010 02:54:48 -0700

If you want, you can send me the PDFs (or I probably have them on my computer somewhere) and can put them in my public dropbox folder so people can still get em. Can also make a simple page to link to them, from my own host or tumblr or something :3

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Allen — Thu, 07 Oct 2010 13:59:00 -0700

You can download the PDF from Scribd, you have to log in/sign up but it only takes a minute, and the site has a ton of great free magazines and other assorted works. And once I get the Zombie Conversational site up and running again the issues will be for download there too.

In other news, it is once again time for me to ask for more content for the next issue! I am mostly in need of pictures and art. So any photos, drawings, paintings, or anything else, as long as there is some kind of visual element that goes along with it, is very welcome and needed. That doesn't mean it has to just be visual, but to have a healthy mix for the issue I am looking for something that has at least some visual elements.

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Allen — Mon, 11 Oct 2010 14:28:02 -0700

Here is the cover for issue 4, done by Sgrsickness (aka Cameron Callahan):

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Sonny — Tue, 12 Oct 2010 09:42:26 -0700

Looks great, Al.

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Allen — Sat, 16 Oct 2010 22:57:30 -0700

I just put issue #3 up on Scribd, it can be found right here. I also just noticed as I am very perceptive and constantly vigilant, that when reading it on the site itself, a lot of the formatting for text is wonky. I have no clue why, it just is. The PDF is not that way, nor is the magazine itself when bought from MagCloud. So the best way to read it from Scribd is just to sign up/sign in and download the PDF and read it on your computer. The formatting is like in the magazine and it is still free.

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Allen — Thu, 13 Jan 2011 22:12:46 -0800

Make Something #4 is available for purchase (or can be gotten free using the iPad) through MagCloud.

It is also up for free reading or download through Scribd. Hope everyone enjoys the issue, and I apologize for the huge gap between 3 and 4 for those who were waiting on it. All I can say is holidays are a pain.

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Cameron C. — Thu, 13 Jan 2011 23:38:47 -0800

wooo!

I just learned of the BEST place to put a QR Code because of this issue. Must implement in the future....

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luckycreature — Fri, 14 Jan 2011 03:53:49 -0800

Buying copies tonight. Thanks again Allen for all your hard work!

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Allen — Sat, 15 Jan 2011 13:55:13 -0800

The rest of the issues are now also available for free via iPad (the option didn't exist when they first went up, and I forgot to edit them). What's interesting is that there have been as many iPad views as the number of physical copies sold, so it does get more eyes on the final product.

@Cameron it is such an original idea for using QR Code too. It was also the final thing sent to me for the issue, and filled the last hole I had for a more visual item.

@luckycreature Does it count as hard work when it's 90% fun?

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luckycreature — Sun, 16 Jan 2011 05:31:40 -0800

Allen,
Its the other 10 percent that makes it hard. Cant wait to get my issues.

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warrenellis — Sun, 16 Jan 2011 15:23:27 -0800

Congratulations on reaching #4.

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luckycreature — Tue, 25 Jan 2011 10:26:37 -0800

Allen, please check your email. Weve got something that needs fixing asap.

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Allen — Tue, 25 Jan 2011 11:58:58 -0800

Due to my big time fuck up issue is currently down and unavailable until I can get home and fix things in a few hours. Very damn sorry luckycreature. : /

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Allen — Tue, 25 Jan 2011 17:00:26 -0800

And all fixed now...

In other news I'm back in the hunt for new content for the next issue, there are two stories left in the backlog, and two poems, so if you are interested in submitting something please send it my way. Feel free to look at any of the past issues to get a nice idea of what has been published thus far. I am on the look out for more poetry to get a nice spread to go along with the two I currently have.

@Warren Thank you kindly, sir, and thanks again for linking this thread to your main site, it got a lot of responses, plus thanks for the forum in general... I will quit thanking and kissing ass now.

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Allen — Fri, 05 Aug 2011 15:30:28 -0700

After a big gap, the magazine will be returning with new changes, more pages, and if all works out, still being free to all! We are looking to print the magazine ourselves and get it into local (St. Louis area) shops and then also make it cheaper then MagCloud for those around the world. But I won't blabber on about that too much (see newly edited first post for details), I will say I am back to looking for new content to fill out the issue, and hope to see some wonderful things in the in box soon. Send anything and everything to makesomethingmag@gmail.com

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texture — Sat, 06 Aug 2011 03:00:38 -0700

HOORAY! Welcome back, Allen!

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kperkins — Sat, 06 Aug 2011 05:46:39 -0700

Yipee!
Any specific dates for getting work in? Also are you still going with the Magcloud specs for pages (for comics, etc.)?

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luckycreature — Sun, 07 Aug 2011 15:48:23 -0700

Allen, new short sent. Glad your continuing.

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Ashflex — Sun, 07 Aug 2011 15:54:26 -0700

I would love to contribute a story for an upcoming issue, I'll try to get on to writing something.

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Cameron C. — Mon, 08 Aug 2011 01:52:42 -0700

ack! Will be reshuffling my doodling priorities... Wanna try something new to submit to you... Very excited to see what youve come up with...!

As for PDF distribution, check out http://theillustratedsection.com. It's a pretty awesome digital comics site. They charge a couple bucks to list but I /think/ if you offer youre PDF for free they list it for free. I've bought from them and have Scrambled Circuits listed up there.

So, is color still an option for us or will it be b/w only now?

Return of Make Something Magazine

Allen — Mon, 08 Aug 2011 14:14:51 -0700

Thanks guys. While there is no strict set deadline at this time, I would say that sending anything by September 1st will make have a chance to appear in the next issue, anything after will be set for the following issue(s). The issues will still be in color, while black and white only would be cheaper, it isn't all that much to get everything printed in color instead. I did think about the illustrated section as well, I wasn't so sure if it would have enough art to make it a proper candidate.