2013-06-18T21:49:49-07:00 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/ Lussumo Vanilla & Feed Publisher http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=7479&Focus=210927#Comment_210927 2009-12-30T07:49:08-08:00 2009-12-30T07:50:02-08:00 arklight http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5355

Yep , its the season to party again. When you talk about about Modern rnb (1980-to Now) most people just blurt out Beyonce and a list of whatever RnB got into the top 40. Which is a damn ...

When you talk about about Modern rnb (1980-to Now)
most people just blurt out Beyonce and a list of
whatever RnB got into the top 40.

Which is a damn shame, it's a bit like when people talk
about Hip Hop and all they ever talk about is gangsta rap
which is a subgenre not the whole genre.

Anyway I wanted to expand those horizons,
concentrating on modern RnB and leaving out the Motown
stuff which has a huge fanbase and scholars.

Also for that "classic soul", not modern rnb,the blog -

SOULSIDES

does an excellent Job highlighting extremely
rare gems and even digging up some of the musicians.

Now it's our turn to do a rundown of as many RnB subgenres as possible.
And hopefully open a few eyes. Yes some of it may be light and even poppy.
Lets go...


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JAPANESE RNB Minmi - "Step" Minmi-"The making of Step" THIS SONG DOESN'T GET GOING TILL 1:18 BUT I love this song! Especially the bit when she shouts ...

JAPANESE RNB



Minmi - "Step"





Minmi-"The making of Step"




THIS SONG DOESN'T GET GOING TILL 1:18 BUT I love this song!
Especially the bit when she shouts out the music capitals
of the world- "Japan,Kingston (jamiaca), New York,hong kong, London"
Yeah , forget paris and the rest! And all the jamaican flags
everywhere!

How Japan fully embraced practically every Genre of Black Music
without the anchor of a large internal black population is
one of the great untold stories in Musical History.
It seems that because they couldn't get it from an
internal community they had to go out travelling
the world and get it!

Japanese reggae fans in Jamaica-"Bad man forward!"






They didn't just listen to it.Lot's of countries get the odd
mariah carey record.They went to the source. An example being
just how brilliant Japans Breakdancers and dance crews are.
They are not just copying from the TV. They learnt from the best.

There are stories of Japanese fans and TV crews just
turning up in the heart of the Grimiest New York ghettoes
where other New yorkers never go.They were there to
learn from thew actual people who created the art,
to record for TV this fantastic new thing that was
blowing their minds.

So there's the odd feeling from Black people of
self recognition when they see japanese people
dancing because it is so pure.

Dancemasterz blog, the only blog i know of
that highlights this has far more information.





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FRANCOPHONE AFRO-FRENCH RNB Loads to choose from in French sung RnB with African influences . But as an example it must be LES NUBIENS . The female Cameroonian-French duo with a loyal ...

FRANCOPHONE AFRO-FRENCH RNB

Loads to choose from in French sung RnB with African influences
. But as an example it must be LES NUBIENS .
The female Cameroonian-French duo with a
loyal American following


Les Nubiens - "Makeda"





The above video is in pre flood New Orleans.
It's RnB, but unlike anything coming out
of the states, with a french elegant polish ontop.
Im suprised no one has sampled parts of this song.


Les Nubiens - "Solide"








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POLYNESIAN RNB Name a Polynesian RnB group. That's hard huh? Probably the only Polynesian group you may have heard but never seen was THE JETS from the 1980s- The Jets-"Crush ...

POLYNESIAN RNB


Name a Polynesian RnB group.

That's hard huh? Probably the only Polynesian
group you may have heard but never seen was
THE JETS from the 1980s-


The Jets-"Crush on You"



Crush on you was a huge hit, and im suprised
it hasn't been sampled to death.But most
people never saw the video and thought
they were african american or when saw the video
thought they were asian or something.In fact they
were mainly of Tongan and Fijian Descent with
some German in there too.They were a
a good 1980s rnb act, like the polynesian
version of the jacksons.


meanwhile in Maori New Zealand you have AARADHNA

she's of indian subcontinent and Samoan heritage
With a retro sentimental RnB sound-


Aaradhna - "I Love You Too"





New Zealand has a massive following for
Hip Hop and RnB amongst it's polynesian population

Savage Ft Aaradhna - "They Don't Know"





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CHICAGO STEPPING SCENE Imagine you're a much older mature RnB lover ,maybe 35-40+ years old who doesn't want to give up clubbing. Who doesn't want to start collecting Jazz records! But ...

CHICAGO STEPPING SCENE



Imagine you're a much older mature RnB lover ,maybe
35-40+ years old who doesn't want to give up clubbing.
Who doesn't want to start collecting Jazz records!

But all the clubs are dirty, full of kids with hoodies,
the musics too fast! With filthy lyrics!

More importantly you want to do partner dancing
like they do in salsa. And you may want a bit of dinner,
and people to dress smart! Where can you get that?-

The Chicago Stepping scene.

Highlighted by Chicagos greastest RnB
export R Kelly here-

R Kelly- "Step In The Name Of Love"






A highly localised scene. HUGE in Chicago but not
much else with a following amongst older black ladies
and gentlemen. But it seems alot of times they drag
their kids along and a lot of younger kids are
learning partner dancing again.it's spreading!

As seen in Chicago hip hop artist COMMON 's video.
watch the kids dancing partner to partner
(in a hip hop record!)

Common - "Reminding Me(of Sef)"




It's a SENTIMENTAL nostagic scene looking back
to a "more civilised time". Guys wear
suits and fedora hats like out of 1930s chicago.
Like in this other R Kelly Video
riffing off the stepping scene.


R Kelly-"Thank God it's Friday"



Or dress up similar to the pulp comic shadow.
Clothes seem to be white or "happier colours".
Nobody looks like they should be in the matrix.

It's not just older people dancing, its a fully evolved
subgenre of RNB with Dance steps unique to this scene,
especially with the partner dancing,and stepping music
which is smooth, soulful, midtempo.

It should be noted...

Chicago (house, stepping, juke etc)
is like the east coast version of the Bay Area on
the west coast (hyphy, jerkin,based,E40) in that it
brings up it's own scenes sometimes in complete defiance
of the major trends in black music.


Detriot should get a mention too
(for creating Techno! And Eminem!)


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THE MINNEAPOLIS SOUND Jesse Johnson -"She I can't Resist" Soultrain line dancers! SOUNDS LIKE PRINCE huh? NO it's Jesse johnson from Minneapolis and so is Prince. They ...

THE MINNEAPOLIS SOUND


Jesse Johnson -"She I can't Resist"
Soultrain line dancers!






SOUNDS LIKE PRINCE huh? NO it's Jesse johnson
from Minneapolis and so is Prince. They sound alike
because they came from the same scene. In fact Jesse
was in princes band. Prince pioneered and took the
minneapolis sound worldwide
and added and grew from it.So did the best modern rnb
production duo of our era Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis
who were in the band the Time with Johnson

Yes in the soultrain line, that's oscar actress
Rosie Perez (at 0:56), she was a dancer
and choregrapher before an actress.
Jennifer lopez Mark 1

The Minneapolis sound is , Early 80s,
before new jack swing, laying down important
RnB production values we take for granted now.



I can't believe the above song hasn't
been covered or sampled. N.E.R.D would spank this
song as a modern cover. Good luck finding an
original vinyl copy in mint condition,
should be worth a fair bit now.

Also From the album - "Shockadelica"

Jesse Johnson-"do yourself a favour"





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FREESTYLE Who invented FREESTYLE it's contentious. What is Freestyle? It's like RnB with loads of percussion, and a few hints of rock. If you lived through the early eighties to the mid ...

FREESTYLE


Who invented FREESTYLE it's contentious.
What is Freestyle?

It's like RnB with loads of percussion, and a few hints of rock.
If you lived through the early eighties to the mid eighties,
you probably heard a freestyle record.


What's certain, is that it was taken with open arms into
the latin american community in America, especially
in New York where black and latinos mingle,
marry and are related to each other.At one point it was latino americans'
main non-spanish musical export

To this day alot of freestyle is still sung in English.
New York still has a freestyle scene.


Good examples are 1980s Hispanic American group EXPOSE -





Check out the clatter and rattling of percussion
in the background, it's sung like an RnB record,
but with the energy of a mainstream 80s rock record.


LISA LISA and the CULT JAM
from the 1980s are one of the biggest Freestyle artists to become huge.
They leaned heavily more to RnB and later
incorporated some early house.


Lisa Lisa and The Cult Jam ft Full Force -
"I Wonder If I Take You Home"



Most early House music followers have
heard this by Lisa Lisa(1985!)-


Lisa Lisa and The Cult Jam FT Full Force-
"Can You Feel The Beat"












We cant Forget The other Huge group, who became a freestyle and RNB
production powerhouse- FULL FORCE.

Even though they branched out into comedic acting(?!)
like the House Party movie.They are still known for
their production duties.


Full Force - "Alice-I Want You Just For Me"








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Old, and it took me FOREVER to track down the mp3, BUT: And the mp3 can be found through the Hype Machine.

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SECULAR GOSPEL RNB Basically Gospel music with all the major RNB influences, and lyrically almost never mentioning God ! But the music is so stirring you get exactly the same meaning ...

SECULAR GOSPEL RNB


Basically Gospel music with all the major RNB influences,
and lyrically almost never mentioning God !

But the music is so stirring you get exactly the
same meaning anyway.Hint hint-wink wink!
getting the message in there under the radar.

For a long time there was a BIG DIVIDE
in black singers many of whom came from the church.
Those who did gospel and those who did RnB.

Those who crossed this divide could never come back
to "Gods music" after doing unseemly DIRTY RnB songs

This changed with a newer, younger generation entering gospel
who were surrounded by Hip Hop and New jack swing RnB.

There are 2 big ground breaking groups when talking about this:
THE SOUNDS OF BLACKNESS, and KIRK FRANLKIN with the Gospel
collectives he's used over the years.



The Sounds Of Blackness


Based in Mineappolis, they sell out concerts worldwide to non gospel
fans and without an album in sight. People talk in hushed tones about their
"full strength" shows where they have most of the members, with 40+
people on stage. Their live vocal sonic power
not really being able to be captured on record
properly because dynamics have to be controlled.

Under the patronage and protection of The greatest
Rnb production duo of all time, Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis
they created multiple platinum albums.

Even though most people outside minneapolis heard this ensemble in the 1980s,
they had been going since 1961, and this nuturing paid off 20 years later with
the album aptly titled "THE EVOLUTION OF GOSPEL"
(tell that to the creationists-lol!)

The single that broke them into the mainstream was
Optimistic , it starts easily enough and just builds
and builds and builds with ultra postive Lyrics

Sounds of Blackness - "Optimistic"



Not one dud on the whole album thanks acclaimed producers Jam and Lewis.

Sounds Of Blackness- "I Believe"







Sounds of Blackness - "Black Butterfly"




Probably every serious rnb fan collecting albums in
the 80s had the " Evolution of Gospel " album.



KIRK FRANKLIN

KIRK FRANKLIN took that leaning into RnB and
turned it up to 11 ! Bringing the sheer majestic
vocal control of Gospel to RnB. Producing
songs vocally that gave RnB singers goosebumps.


Kirk Franlkin - "Love"




Kirk Franklin - "Sweet Spirit"





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YOUNG LOVE Remember when you were 12-16 years old? YOUR FIRST CRUSH? SO INNOCENT. SO PURE. NO BAGGAGE . There is a whole section of RnB artists who reflect this back to you and ...

YOUNG LOVE

Remember when you were 12-16 years old?
YOUR FIRST CRUSH?

SO INNOCENT. SO PURE. NO BAGGAGE .


There is a whole section of RnB artists who
reflect this back to you and articulate this innocent first time ,
young love lost forever to us. Lol!

Not really a sub genre because the VERY
young musicians encompasse other RnB sub Genres especially
New Jack Swing (swingbeat).





TEVIN CAMPBELL



the undisputed king of this.

He was their age, Not some old geezer! His songs reeking of
innocent first crushes. His famous song "CAN WE TALK"
vocalizing the bravery needed to get the dutch
courage to go and talk to a girl you like.

Tevin Campbell - "Can we talk"




Tevin Campbell - "always in my heart"





Tevin Campbell - "Shhhh"



Tevin was the protege of Prince and Quincy Jones,
whose music ended up being in far more adult
RnB lovers music collections than the young lovers
it was intended for.

He also, after an infamous police operation,
was forcefully outed as maybe the first Bisexual/ Gay
male RnB superstar. He doesn't seem to have lost any fans.
Which is good. It also colours a new meaning into every
song he's sung -"shh" "can we talk" "if you ever
wondered I love you..." LOL!


JASON WEAVER

More known as a sitcom actor. But in music he will
always be remembered for this romantic song when barely
out of diapers. Suggesting a maturity far beyond
most kids.


Jason Weaver -"love ambition"





HI - FIVE

As YOUNG LOVE GROUPS go Hi-Five are a good
example of the young love genre.Lead by the sugar sweet
vocals of the now deceased Tony Thompson.


THE KISSING GAME being the
summer soundtrack of FIRST LOVE for TWEENAGERS
of the time-


Hi Five -"The kissing game"





Sing along now...
"I was only 16....she was 25! Just can't handle it"


Hi Five -"Just can't handle it"






MINT CONDITION

The essential black Prom song,I can see
them slow dancing now.

"you'rree breaking my heart....pretty brown eyes!"

Mint condition -"pretty brown eyes"




ANOTHER BAD CREATION

Even younger Love..
(these kids are like 8 years old!)


Another Bad Creation(ABC)- "Aiesha"




Another Bad Creation(ABC)-"Playground"





Another Bad Creation(ABC)- "Jealous girl"




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Thanks Dork Muffin (still laughing at that name!). Great Tune! Bit Anne Peeble that tune. Nice Horn section. Candi Staton -multi generational soul legend. Heri ...

Bit Anne Peeble that tune. Nice Horn section.


Candi Staton -multi generational soul legend.

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CRUNK N B Far , far away from the nice melodies of all the above, something with GRIT and DIRT. The marriage of RnB with the Hip Hop southern Sub genre called CRUNK.There's only one ...

CRUNK N B


Far , far away from the nice melodies of all the above,
something with GRIT and DIRT.

The marriage of RnB with the Hip Hop southern
Sub genre called CRUNK.There's only one person
when talking about this Genre.

The queen of Crunk n B is ...CIARA

Below a perfect Crunk N B tune.
"OH...'ROUND HERE WE GRIND SLOWWW."



Ciara ft Ludacris-"oh"





CRUNK is the most MINAMALIST sub genre of Hip Hop.
It has next to no samples, all HEAVY HEAVY sub bass, Cutting
UNNATURAL Saw SYNTHS.

next to no instrumentation and more Chanting
call and response rather than rapping. Dismissed by Hip Hop purists,
as "dance club music" not hip hop. But it was huge
in the Southern States of America.It got even
bigger with RnB attached

The ultimate example of Crunk N B's MINAMILISM
being the YING YANG TWINS-


Ying Yang Twins "Wait"



This started a trend with Southern Misissippi MC
David banner bring out a track.

David Banner - "Play"




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