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    Emma --

    I sincerely and devoutly hope you get to do the Billy and Tommy and Wanda story someday! That would be amazing. (And if not you, well, I just hope someone gets around to it soon.)
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      CommentAuthoremsie
    • CommentTimeJan 28th 2010
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    SigridEllis -

    Aww, thanks so much. I think it's highly unlikely, haha. But I'll be waiting for Marvel to do their thang with the characters - their story need some special attention, eh? ^_^
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    @Emma
    :D Awesome, I had a sneaking suspicion that might be your chosen subject! I totally agree that the traditional format is the most readable, and you can always get heavy paper stock and hard-cover it up to make it look awesome. I don't think colour is intrinsically better either. If I was rich, I'd fund it!
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      CommentAuthoremsie
    • CommentTimeJan 28th 2010
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    Hell yeah! And then we could all dress in period costumes and go on a Diccon road show to promote it; selling the book after reinacting key moments and battles....haha, it would be awesome! :)
    Hard cover....mmmmmm....... one of those soft, squidgy ones, whatever they are! and it would have a suede texture, and a colour plate embedded in the cover, and stressed paper for the pages, and gold lined sheets and......*drooool*
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    @emsie
    :D:D~~~~ I was having similar fantasies... Kate and I approve, heartily, if not indeed, verily.
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      CommentAuthorJeff Owens
    • CommentTimeJan 28th 2010
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    @emsie - No need to apologize! That actually was quite helpful. Of the three places you named, Newsarama is the only one I had heard of, and I hadn't even thought about having them review it. Thanks, again.
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      CommentAuthoremsie
    • CommentTimeJan 29th 2010
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    Okay, so - it's last day *palm blinks red*
    And I'll be off early tonight to, funnily enough, celebrate my husband's actual 30th birthday!

    I've really enjoyed this week, thank you to those of you who've been asking questions. Those who haven't - you still have today, so ask away! :)

    *brews up a storm*
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      CommentAuthorsneak046
    • CommentTimeJan 29th 2010
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    What's your favourite tea? Mine is Qi Ginseng Green tea, bought from what my girlfriend charmingly refers to as "that hippy shop".

    (sorry, I couldn't think of a better question..)
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    Was my question from yesterday omitted for a reason or was it because I posted right before you did?
    (it's the second-last post on the previous page)
    I'm hoping for the latter but I'll understand if it was the former.
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      CommentAuthoremsie
    • CommentTimeJan 29th 2010
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    Aurora - oh, I'm so sorry!! Looks like our posts went up at the same time and then the page turned over...I totally didn't see your question...I must have looked very rude!

    Okay, so - you can't get to cons easily and we're looking ideally at less face-to-face marketing? Obviously if you can pluck up the courage (and believe me, we all know how hard it can be), then nothing can substitute for meeting people. But there are other ways.
    Firstly, the internet is your friend, which you'll no doubt know already. It seems you hosted a comic at drunk duck - good move. You have a DevArt account - also good move, and you have a personal blog with a very funky and eye catching logo - so you're well away. Getting people to click on and look at your blog is going to be high priority. If you do have a bit of money to spend, you could look at paying sites to advertise you with a banner. there are sites that offer services like this (eg http://advertiser.cubics.com/) where you can have your link advertised on a selection of sites. I've never tried it, so I can't say how succesful it would be, but it's worth looking at if you have the finance.

    Do you have a friendly local or even not so local comic shop? Dropping flyers and advertising into comic shops can attract a few curious eyes to your products.

    You mentioned POD. Obviously using sites like LuLu is great as they can offer amazon listings - always helpful to link to.

    Twitter is WIN. If you're not already on it, it's well worth trying to build a little list on there.

    What's your ultimate goal here? To be an independent publisher producing your own work and direct selling/ to be an independent publisher using a distro company/ to be picked up by a publisher?
    Each path has a slightly different approach of course. Sweatdrop went for years with option one as we just wanted to enjoy ourselves with no pressure. We were able to sell at cons of course, but we also managed to get small batches of books into book and comic shops by doing workshops and building a relationship. Without getting out there, being indie will be tricky, but all the more reason to ramp the online networking and spread some linkage.
    Path two can take time to work towards as your rep will matter a lot. Sweatdrop finally decided recently we'd attempt to get distribution with Diamond - and that's after 8 years of building the group, with a body of work from several members....not that we're the only example to go by of course, but it gives an idea.
    Option 3 will, again, be very tricky without any face-to-face, but I'd suggest looking at comics you feel your work could fit in with, check the publisher and get thee to the internet. Accessing publishers is a lot easier these days, and you can but ask, eh?

    Maybe, as you say things feel disjointed right now, consolidate your efforts on one push. Choose your medium, your project and go all out on that one avenue. Make flyers for it, Prepare a GN, offer prints that promote it, do an online push, maybe a behind-the-scenes making of....basically put all efforts into pushing your one best product, rather than splitting your time over several?

    I hope this covers what you needed!

    Sneak -
    What better question than a tea related one? ;) I like all sorts, but - when it comes down to it - i'm happy with bog standard tesco teabags XD For a more refreshing brew, I picked up a tin of oolong from my local chinese supermarket - very smokey and mmmmmm.
    • CommentAuthorDC
    • CommentTimeJan 29th 2010 edited
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    Hi Emma
    I have a friend who makes "manga".
    So I have a bunch of questions he asked me to do. He’s a “manga” artist.
    How can he draw attention from editors like SelfMadeHero?
    Do they accept art submissions?
    And a more generic one, what advices can you give to a non uk/us artist or writer (this applies to me) pitch himself into the comic business?
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      CommentAuthoremsie
    • CommentTimeJan 29th 2010 edited
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    Hey, DC ^_^

    Is your friend in the UK? SelfMadeHero are always on the lookout for new creators, but tend to limit it to UK-based artists. Their publications are mostly adaptations or biographies, at least at the moment...but they accept all sorts of artwork styles and their work is very varied. They attend most UK events and are happy to chat to creators and check out portfolios if they have time. So, tell your friend to head along and say hi. That's the single best way of getting in touch with them and they're lovely people. If he's very much into the 'manga' style, it could be worth him checking out competitions like the Neo Magazine one and Manga Jimann, run by the Japanese embassy over here. They're great practice and a way to be seen.

    Most publishers work along similar lines - ie, go meet them at events, say hi. Get to know the company and what they do and like. Read their publications before diving in and pushing your own on them. It's really important to have an idea of the editor/publisher you're approaching, rather than just seeing them as a 'way in'. Consider what they publish: whether your stuff would fit, whether editor A maybe better to approach than editor B, that sort of thing. They're all people too, and they all have personal tastes and specialist areas, so you should consider this. The wonderful thing about the net is that so many editors and publishers are right there, very easy to find and contact! ^_^

    As to the more generic question, eeep - that's a biggie! To the bullet point machine! Hope some of these help!

    - Initially - Create because you want to and because you have a passion for it, not because you want to make money. Then, if you do end up with a career, you'll appreciate it all the more! ^_~
    - if not working with a publisher, create your own stuff. Print it. Sell it. Love it.
    - Network - online if you need to, but look into events in your area and get along if you can. I'm sure Portugal must sport some events! Or travel if needs be.
    - Have a professional blog to track your work and to let others do the same
    - never underestimate the reach of the industry. It has eyes and ears everywhere, so always present yourself as best as you can. You never know when a cross word can come back and bite you. Professionalism is VITAL!
    - Always remember that there are people better than you and there are people worse than you. Keep a level head and don't feel over confident or chastise yourself too much either.
    - Remember that comics are, first and foremost, about telling a story.
    - Keep a neat portfolio of maybe no more than 20 of your most recent pieces. Never force it on people, but if they ask to see it, it's good to have one up to date.
    - If you're working for yourself, set yourself deadlines and be sure to hit them. You'll learn a ton and be in good practice for when contracts come a'knockin'.
    - Try testing yourself, especially if you're an artist. Sometimes, draw something totally unusual for you, don't stick to your comfort zone.
    - Both as an artist and writer, be realistic. If you feel that one discipline is letting your work down, or just that you need some more input, consider collaborating with someone. I know I love working with writers! Collaborating can teach you loads and is good fun.
    - Grab a table at an event and try selling/promoting your work. Even if just for fun. It's a great experience and you'll get so much feedback, both good and bad, that you can take on board!

    And generally, be friendly and relax! This isn't just an industry but a pretty close-knit one; full of some wonderful people with the potential to become not just colleagues, but very good friends. Take your time, it's not a race. Get to know people, be friendly - and, when the time is right, let them know about your work. Jumping the gun can be fatal! Appreciate what others do and they'll appreciate you. As a creator myself, there's little that puts me off someone as quickly as when they approach me at a con, don't even glance at my work, and shove a portfolio at me. It's not like I can employ them anyways, you know? I love seeing people's work and, if we've been chatting at the table, I'll usually ask to see what they do if I'm not too busy, but we need to have a bit of banter first, you know? :)

    I have no idea if I've hit the points you needed, feel free to specify if you need more, but I wish you and your friend every luck going forward! Get excited and make things! ^__^
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    @emsie: Thank you for answering!

    I can't get to any cons simply for the reason that I live in a non-english speaking country with almost no comic book scene/market. The nearest comic book store is half a country away (I think we have like... three total or so, haha).
    Yes, got a site and devart and an old comic on drunkduck, starting a new one in the next few days. Got no twitter though *adds it to the list*.

    POD: I was thinking more of Ka-Blam/Indyplanet/Comicsmonkey. I have a couple of larger color projects and decided to keep all my short stories color (I can take flatting in small doses) and Lulu is simply way too pricey in color.

    What is my goal? Hmm, I'll have to think about that one. I think my goal is... umm, hard to tell to be honest, haha. I guess for me "making it" is being able to live from my creations without having to resort to work for hire. Also, I'm drawn towards POD because low sales do not equal a huge unpaid printing bill, haha. (or a basement full of unsold books). But yeah, I'll have to define my goals beyond that I think.

    Ok, I'll stop here, after all, it's not my thread. Haha.

    Again, thank you for your answers, pointing out what I'm doing right and what I could do more to progress.
    *runs off to harass people to visit his site*
    • CommentAuthorDC
    • CommentTimeJan 29th 2010
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    Wow thanks for your awesome answer!
    I should have said my friend is also Portuguese with one published book (http://htx.deviantart.com).
    I’m sorry for the trouble of writing such a long reply, I should be more specific. I’ve started with some of the things you said (attending events to present anthologies I participate) but some of the advices you said to me and Aurora I’ll get to them when I have the chance, especially my poor abandoned blog. While I can publish short comics in anthologies, I’d like to start taking steps to present my small amount of work abroad.
    Also, how and when did you decided you wanted to do comics for a living, that moment when you got the ‘click’ from comics as a hobby to start looking for professional work?
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      CommentAuthoremsie
    • CommentTimeJan 31st 2010 edited
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    Well, it's Sunday and I've really enjoyed this week - thanks for making me feel so welcome, everyone!
    Let's see what I can fit in today ^_^

    Hey DC -
    Well, I don't know that I could pinpoint a moment. I guess I always would have wanted to, if I'd even considered it a valid career option, you know? haha. But I do remember distinctly the day I quit my day job and drove home to begin life as a freelancer. I felt so surreal on that drive home. Kept thinking 'woah. I don't have a job.....or I do....but I don't..I'm scared. But this is exciting!' XD Very scary time. It was actually illness that pushed me into finally losing the day job. I always wonder if I'd have had the guts to make the move without that.

    So - before I go, chaps - a quick reminder to check out my site here:
    www.emmavieceli.com
    to keep up with what I'm doing.
    And to check into the Dragon Heir thread right here on Whitechapel every Monday to keep up with the story. Freakangels on Friday, Dragon Heir on Monday - yay! ^_^
    In fact, this Monday is looking likely to be a double chapter, as it's a pretty important scene!

    I'll be spending the coming months cooking up a short something with the lovely people at Marvel, making some magic with the Scribes of Oni Press, hopefully delving into darkness with the fiends at Penguin Publishing, providing some oolala - vampire style - with Bella Nolita and, of course, working away in the sweatshop that is Sweatdrop to bring more Dragon Heir and a brand new SD anthology later in the year - keep an eye out for that one.
    I'll also be workshopping like crazy for a few months as it seems that more and more schools and libraries are cottoning onto this awesome comicking world of ours!

    Thanks so much for having me, guys. Please do check in on me and my work when you can. Maybe I'll catch you at an event in the near future...talking of which - I should go spend some more time planning this May's Expo ComicVillage! ^_^
    me!
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    @emsie - Thank you for gracing us with your time, conversation, and answers!
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      CommentAuthoremsie
    • CommentTimeFeb 1st 2010
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    You're most welcome!

    And, to mark the end of my residency here, I leave you all with a bumper, double chapter of Dragon Heir!



    Enjoy! ^_^
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    Thank you, Emma! :)
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      CommentAuthoremsie
    • CommentTimeFeb 1st 2010 edited
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    You're very welcome! ^_^
    I guess all that's left is for me to thank Warren for inviting me to take up residence in this thread! Thanks so much, everyone. And Warren - thanks for letting me run wild. You're a gentleman and a scholar.

    Keep creating, guys!
    Ems ^_^
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    THANK YOU SO MUCH, Em.