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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 00:31:09 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>noire</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I really can't deal with smoking anymore. I feel it's my time to quit, and maybe add a decade or two to my life, provided I don't get smashed to death by a truck first, but alas, I have many found memories of smoking, and I'm finding it hard not to buy another pack.<br /><br />Of course, the smell, the way the smoke wisps around my mouth and down my throat, and the way it burns my lungs, it's simply fantastic, and since our dear governments are making it harder for us working stiffs to afford such a luxury, I figure I should quit while the cigarettes in my area are below 5 dollars a pack. Sounds like a good reason, right? I'd be able to afford more comics, and other activities were I to quit, because it's a whole $200 a month I spend on cigarettes.<br /><br />What I want to hear from y'all is how you feel about smoking, and if you quit, what a nightmare it was for you to do so. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 01:30:48 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Audley Strange</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I quit 3 weeks ago using chewing gum and I hate to say it, but I've found it piss easy so far. Dont miss it, don't get any cravings and I smoked about 15/20 a day for the last 20 years. I thought the hardest part would be when I was drinking, but no, it never bothered me. However, I actually wanted to give up, I didn't just think I <em >should</em>. That's been the difference between this and previous attempts. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 01:36:16 -0800</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[ I greatly enjoy smoking, and I live in an area where it's about $9/pack.<br /><br />I've tried quitting every so often, but I'm just not ready to quit. I can tell this because despite all my knowledge of its negative health effects and my own history of health, I rarely go more than a few days without. I don't think I need to go on about why it's so good, you know that already.<br />I also live with someone who smokes a ton. My friends are all smokers. All the movies I watch have smoking in it. When I drink, I prefer to punctuate it with a cigarette and I drink *a lot*. In fact, there really isn't any way for me to get away from it unless I were to move out into a shack in the forest.<br />Just keep thinking of the health benefits, find things to do when you're bored & the mind starts wandering and gnaw on something when it starts to get frustrating. Quitting is one of the best things you could do for yourself. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 02:20:55 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Jeff Owens</author>
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			<![CDATA[ <blockquote >Quitting is one of the best things you could do for yourself. </blockquote><br /><br />If you wanna smoke, by all means, smoke up!  I'm all for everyone doing whatever they want.  I do, to put it bluntly, think smoking is gross, but I do tons of things that other people surely find gross.  <br /><br />I know tons of smokers that have quit for various amounts of time.  I even know a guy that quit for almost three years before he started.<br /><br />I smoked for seven years and quit ten years ago this past Thanksgiving.  I haven't had a single cigarette since I quit.  Like Audley Strange, I found it pretty easy, but there were some tricks, and it wasn't all a cake walk.  The most difficult thing to get over, for me, was driving.  I always had the window open and was smoking a cigarette.  It felt like I was missing an arm when I wouldn't smoke.  But I eventually got over it.<br /><br />It makes the whole thing a lot easier if you <strong >really want</strong> to quit, and it doesn't hurt to have strong will power.  Every time I wanted a cigarette, I would just remind myself how much more I wanted to <strong >not</strong> have one.<br /><br />God luck, and don't kid yourself.  If you wanna be a smoker, fuck it.  Smoke.  But if you wanna quit, fucking do it! ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 02:59:07 -0800</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[ Uh sorry, I have never been chemically addicted.  I miss the physical part of it.  The excuse to step outside.  The halo of smoke that keeps non smokers away when I'm stressed.  It comes to me to smoke when I'm drinking or stuck in heavy traffic.  But I rarely ever nicfit.<br /><br />The last pack I bought was in October, I think.  I just stopped buying them.  Largely out of a lack of money.  Every so often I have a little cash now and just try not to think about going to pick up a pack.  Still social smoke, but in the last month that has been all of once.  And social smoking hapens really only when other smokers offer me a cigarette because they don't realize I don't smoke as much now.<br /><br />So I haven't quit exactly.  Just slowed waaaayyy down.  From time to time I say I stop.  And I can stay stopped for a several years at a stretch.  So my method is to not buy the things and avoid lighting up.<br /><br />Or as my favorite cheeky monkey would say... you just...don't.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0612lXv1jY" ></a> ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 03:01:49 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>noire</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I do want to quit smoking. It's a tedious chore, and I find it makes me unable to focus, or even drift into creative thought. It relaxes me too much, I could just stare at a TV, and watch some mindless action movie without a care until I wanted another cigarette, at which point, I'd smoke another, and then I'd sit on my couch for a couple more hours. It's not like marijuana, but it distracts me just the same, makes my mind hazy. It does help with stress, but I feel I'd find the same ability to cope with it even after I quit.<br /><br />I suppose my mind is made up. Now it's time for delicious mind-numbing cravings, and the resistance! How the hell would I survive a zombie outbreak whilst craving a fucking cigarette? Or survive in a post-apocalyptic wasteland that Illinois surely would become. Super Mutants would be wiping me off their feet. ._. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 03:07:38 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>pookylou</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I quit 4 and half years ago (not that I'm counting), and yeah I do still want one every now and then, in moments of stress especially. But like Glukkake said it IS one of the best things you can do for yourself. One tip - if you have one don't just say bugger it and start again! One is a set back not a restart. Also your lungs will still feel crap for sometime (mmmm lung butter)<br />I used to work for a palliative care center, that's enough to put anyone off..... ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 03:17:55 -0800</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[ I've quit several times.<br /><br />Weeks or months after I quit, it was easy to think, "I'm not smoking any more: soI can have just one, and not another;" and after that, it was easy for that one to become two, and then back to one every hour as I was before. In the _West Wing_, Leo the alcoholic said about his drinking, "For me, one drink is too many: and a hundred isn't enough."<br /><br />Eventually I reckoned that I'd have to quit eventually, e.g. when I was hopitalized with COPD, on oxygen and unable to get out of bed: then they wouldn't let me smoke anymore ... so given that I'd eventually have the experience of having to quit, then I might as well do it now while I'm relatively healthy.<br /><br />I got the doctor to prescribe me Zyban: that worked for me, at least once.<br /><br />I had side effects from quitting: it seems to affect my memory and concentration. On the other hand I feel better in various ways.<br /><br />The first few days are the hardest: not so much difficult to quit, just difficult to do anything else at all (e.g. to work or to deal with other people or make plans or think or anything like that) while quitting. Easier after the first week. Many of the times I quit were while I was on holiday.<br /><br />One thing, for me smoking was a way to swallow my anger.<br /><br />I've also gradually replaced the smoking lifestyle with other activities. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 05:06:47 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Yoav</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Hey, great timed thread.<br /><br />Smoked for years, since I was 12 and have tried to quit many times (for max 9 months). On Saturday I went for my second session of hypnotherapy. Here's the tale:<br /><br />In the first session I was interviewed in ridiculous detail for two hours about my smoking, when I smoke, how, which hand, how do I inhale, when's my favourite cigarette, am I oral or hand fixated...etc. Very clever questions that gave the hypnotist lots of info that's was extremely specific to me. I like to smoke fast, hard, all the time, with both hands and enjoy blowing smoke rings in a sensuous barrage of acrid smoke, apparently.<br /><br />So, on Saturday I went to the nice Bond Street clinic and got talked into this odd relaxed stupor, "yours arms are heavy, but your mind…" and was fed all the gumf that I had spouted a week earlier, but kind of dosed up on anti-smoke crack. I saw images of me inside my cave-like skull hosing the yellow stain off the inside and down a strange drain and then white washing the inside of my cranium. Then taking off on a plane zooming off from a gigantic cigarette and then jumping off a diving board into a beautiful creamy sky… but the diving board was a massive cigarette. Then me carrying thousands of cigarette in those plastic shopping bags that cut into your hands and slinging them into the sea.<br /><br /> It felt strangely 'Clockwork Orange'. This was true of the result as well...<br /><br />... I have been programmed. Straight after the session I took my saxophone, that I had with me, and went to a Hackney squat club style gig where there was a rider of 100s of cans of Red Stripe and an 'indoor smoking' policy. My perfect night usually. Instead I got trashed, but did not even consider smoking. Then yesterday I noticed that when I wanted to smoke, unlike usually when I quit I'd settle into an internal debate, now I would think "I want a cigarette" but the thought would have no power, and be oddly dismissed immediately.<br /><br />So far it's going well. I'm barking like a dog instead of talking English, but hey… ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 06:32:37 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Ronin</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I've been quit for 5-6 years now. I was a heavy smoker. I smoked 2.5-3 packs a day. Then if I went to the bar after work. Forgetaboutit. I think the key to quitting is being ready to quit. If your no really ready then its not gonna happen. Then once you quit. You cant have one once in a while or anything like that. Everyone I know that has played that game has started back up. I still have cravings once and a while. But you just cant give in. As to all the quit smoking aids. If they help you, then great. When I quit I went cold turkey. But I'm of stubborn German stock. God help you if you tell me theres something I cant do. :-) ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 06:47:27 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Nathan</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I smoked for 12 years (about 40 a day for the the last half of that time) - and I quit just under 2 years ago.  It was the first time I had tried to quit, but I did OK using the nicotine replacement lozenges.  Haven't cheated yet - though it's been close a few times.  I think the fact that I haven't cheated at all is one of the things keeping me from smoking right now.<br /><br />My real secret for success was simple - I decided to quit on a Tuesday.  By Thursday I had told everyone I know that I would be quitting on Friday.  Family, friends, colleagues from work, everyone.  That way, if I failed I'd have to explain it over and over again.  Nothing is worth that much hassle.<br /><br />I still get cravings almost daily, but they only last a minute or so now.  I still think about it a few times every day - particularly when I'm stressed.  <br />The first two weeks are the worst.  Bad dreams, the shakes, mood swings.  After that it's all about impulse control.  <br /><br />Still, quitting was the single hardest thing I've ever done - and I'm still doing it.<br /><br />Anyway, I did notice that I became a real jerk without nicotine.  At first I thought it was withdrawal, but that particular symptom never went away.  It turns out I really am just an asshole - one who had been self-medicating for years.<br /><br />Best of luck ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 07:34:38 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Dextra</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I want to quit, but I don't. I enjoy smoking, but I hate what it's doing to me. I've been smoking on and off since I was 14. I'm 32 now. I can feel the effects quite keenly. I actually quit last year for a couple months after suffering a bought of brain ebola flu that made breathing a chore without the cigs. And then I started back up after being around people that smoked for a while. <br /><br />Now, I only have one friend that still smokes, and she lives over an hour away. My roommates don't smoke. And anymore, I rarely smoke at home, just at work on my breaks, because I have nothing else to do. I know I want to quit, but not just <em >yet.</em> There's a bit of rebellion in me that doesn't want to let go of this one habit. My body is ready for it, but my mind is not. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 07:39:28 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>CinnamonAndSpite</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I quit last year! I do feel better. I didn't cold turkey, I carried a pack with me a while... And let myself have one every once in a while when I'm beyond my coping point. Its helped me not do it out of habit, or rebel against my own rules. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 08:04:02 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>3millionyears</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I didn't want to quit, I really enjoyed smoking too, but the money was tight....<br /><br />I now have an <a href="http://www.e-cigs.co.uk" >e-cig</a> cheaper and safer* than the real thing, but you still get the nicotine hit, and you can have them indoors.<br />You end up having less, because you have it on demand, sometimes I just wanted a couple of drags, but felt compelled to finsh the cig as I'd paid for it and lit it!<br /><br />Haven't had a real cig for 11 months!<br /><br />*Yes I know there are issues, but I'd rather have to deal with one carcegen than thousands.... ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 08:10:32 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>mister hex</author>
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			<![CDATA[ My roommate's always going on about quitting. Me, I enjoy smoking too much. <br /><br />I suppose I SHOULD quit. I just don't want to. <br /><br />But if all of you quit, it saves more smokes for me. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 19:35:03 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Audley Strange</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I'll tell you what made me want to stop. I love travelling and cigs cot me £6. £6*365 is £2190. That's a conservative estimate but saving roughly two and a half grand a year? So it was a choice between having cash and doing stuff or burning it, fucking up my lungs completely and being an addict slave to an evil corporation for the rest of my life. <br /><br />I sort of "knew" all this before, but that was the first time I realised it.  If you are thinking of stopping, I'd suggest trying something similar before you start. Consider that you are burning money and what you could do with it if you stopped or something. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 23:08:12 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Jeff Owens</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Everything @Ronin said is spot fucking on.  That being said...<br /><br /><blockquote >How the hell would I survive a zombie outbreak whilst craving a fucking cigarette?</blockquote><br /><br />Well, that's just when you start fucking smoking again.  There's a fucking zombie outbreak?  Give me a goddamned cigarette, or I will shoot you between the eyes. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 02:40:24 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Fauxhammer</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I quit about three years ago, and this is going to sound crazy, but I regret it almost as much as starting in the first place.<br /><br />I started with the lozenge, which was awesome--took the edge right off, and didn't spike my pleasure centers like a cigarette would. You're supposed to take that for a month or two, and wean off, but I wound up getting hooked on them instead of the butts.<br /><br />So I decide to go on the Chantix, and that was one of the worst mistakes I ever made. Oh, it killed my desire for nicotine while I was on it, but it also drove me pretty literally insane for a good long while; it took me about a year to feel close to "okay" after I stopped. Two weeks into the treatment, I bellowed at a traffic cop that I hoped he would get shot to death by a crackhead, just to give you a good idea. Off-the-scale berserk beraggression, suicidal thoughts, terrible dreams--the whole schmear. Terrible stuff.<br /><br />So I no longer smoke, but even two years on, it's a "one day at a time" kind of thing. I still want one all the time, and I know it's only a matter of time before I crack. I feel no better (I can exercise for ten times longer than when I smoked, but I didn't need to exercise then, since I was a willowy 190 lbs as opposed to my post-quit 255--as if I needed another reason to want to light up), a fact that flummoxes the nonsmokers who ask. The smell of a cigarette makes my eyes roll back a little. If I'm doomed to light up again, though, I'm going to give it my best try.<br /><br />I'm trying, Ringo. I'm trying real hard to be a shepherd. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 09:32:52 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Quimble</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Being &quot;ready&quot; to quit was the biggest part for me.  I quit in two stages.  First I stopped smoking after I got home from work, then I stopped smoking during working hours.  Being around friends who smoked and going out for drinks on a weekend were the toughest parts for me; I was never wedded to that first smoke in the morning, or right after a meal.<br /><br />The toughest thing is when you've been quit for a week or two and you get punched right between the eyes with a strong craving.  I've broken down several times over the years and bought a pack because I was near a convenience store during a rough craving.  I don't have any advice for how to get past that; just hold on and eventaully the feeling passes.  That said, there's a point every time I have a few beers where I bum a smoke off a friend.<br /><br />I've got a couple of friends who were long term smokers who've tried gum and Chantix to quit and I've heard nothing but bad things.  That stuff only seems to work for as long as you're on it; soon as you quit, you're right back where you started.  I have one friend who's using an e-cigarette now and he loves it.  Being able to just have a few puffs, being able to &quot;smoke&quot; indoors, being able to exhale smoke, and having the physical aspect of the experience all help big time for him. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 14:43:04 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>MontiLee</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Me - I enjoy smoking, and at the same time I can respect those who don't. What I can't stand are militant ex-smokers who feel the need to get in my business.  Don't preach to me when I'm standing on my front walk enjoying the evening.  Don't make snide remarks about the smell of smoke when I have to smell your dog taking a dump. I'll have no problem putting out my cigarette in your eye.<br /><br />I don't smoke in my home (I have cats) plus I have lots of non-somking friends and if we want to get all smokey we'll go to a bar.  I'm more termed a "social smoker" since I can carry a pack with my for a week and not kill it, but I must have one before work,  one on the drive home, and one before bed.<br /><br />I'm very interested in the FDA mandate that states every cigarette company must disclose the ingredients of the product.  It'll either shut people up or make the din unbearable. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 14:48:23 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>joe.distort</author>
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			<![CDATA[ ive 'quit' so many times...ugh. i really love smoking. its hard to stay gone.<br /><br />lately its gross more often than its good, but i still smoke one every few days because a) its like the best feeling in the world when youve gone more than 24 hours without one and b)it prevents me from stabbing myself and/or others. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 15:35:18 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Jacen</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I've only ever smoked weed but I've always been close with a lot of smokers and the thing that has usually helped them quit has been shifting perspectives away from the need to help themselves to what they are doing to the people in their lives by rushing headlong toward a few of the most virulent, painful and sometimes avoidable cancers.  Don't dance around the end result.<br /><br />Imagine the person you love most in the world.  Picture them slowly rotting away before your eyes; dense black wet masses of cancer ulcerating and bleeding into their weakened dying lungs.  Don't quit because it's good for you.  Quit because you might have to force the people in your life to watch this happen to you and the longer you smoke the more likely your most beloved person is going to start themselves.  I lost 2 grandparents to lung cancer and it is a BAD way to go.  And apologies if it comes off as non-smoker-preachy, I just wanted to offer another perspective to help motivate those looking to quit.  I certain respect a person's right to do whatever they want with their own body.  We just want to keep you around. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 15:45:23 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>joe.distort</author>
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			<![CDATA[ <blockquote >I've only ever smoked weed </blockquote><br /><br />also, this helps quitting a lot. when i can burn a lil green it helps take that edge off as well ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 15:56:12 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>jdack</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I've smoked since I was 12, on and off, but only seriously for the past 8 or so years. I was at nearly 2 packs a day when I was 24, I've since dropped down to about a half a pack or so a day.<br /><br />I've tried to quit four separate time since 2008. Never made it more than a week. My job is the primary problem. These people get on my tits like you wouldn't believe.<br /><br />I hear e-cigs are OK. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 06:28:23 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>thud</author>
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			<![CDATA[ When I was a kid EVERYBODY SMOKED. All the time ! Everywhere !<br />(My Uncle Ray always said that he would've smoked in his sleep, if he only had someone to hold it !)<br />You started smoking as a "sign of rebellion", and it looked cool, because the really cool people smoked. Well, the old farts and scumbags smoked too, but then EVERYBODY SMOKED, ALL THE TIME ! ! !   <br />Everywhere.<br />Part of this was certainly due to the creative efforts of the product placement people who made sure that everybody smoked in every movie, television show, magazine and billboard ad. It was a kind of saturation bombing. If you tell someone something enough times they will believe it. <br />This practice has become more sophisticated, and is now more like, "if you really want someone to listen to you, then whisper".<br /><em >When you are reminded of these associations, you simply follow through and obey.</em><br /><br />I quit about 20 years ago after trying lots of times. <br />The resolution to quit was there, but the means had to be found. <br />What you do is find the associations and links that have been built to this vile (and stoopid looking) habit. <br />Then you change those. <br />Its that simple. <br />People who substitute food for smoking are on the right track, but haven't taken the train to the right station. You find the association and you change it. If you smoke when you drink beer, for instance, then stop drinking beer in the same way.<br />This isn't something that takes a lot of willpower.<br />Its more like just flicking a switch.<br /><br />>That's carbon monoxide you're inhaling. ( ! )<br />Its no goddamn wonder you feel different when you smoke, because its killing you.<br />You don't look like a hero when you smoke, you look like a chimp. Or a moron. Take your pick.<br /><br />(sorry. I don't mean to offend anyone, but the opportunity to adjust your self-image might help you if you really want to quit smoking. The only people I'm angry with are the ones who hawk this stuff, knowing full well how horrible it is. How can this possibly be a crime if there's honest profit in it?) ]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 08:01:17 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Twist</author>
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			<![CDATA[ At 16 I had both my lungs collapse. One was the size of my closed fist and the other width of 2 pencils. Almost dying at 16 helps convince you not to take up smoking. From a non-smoking asthmatics point of view. It smells bad, it tastes like shit when I kiss someone who smokes, and it makes it hard to breath when it's in the air around me.  <br /><br />It also gives you a lovely little illness called emphysema if you escape the wonders of the various types of cancers it can give you. My Nan had it. She spent the last few years of her life on oxygen 24/7, unable to walk the length of her drive way and in and out of hospital like a yoyo. She was in constant pain just to top it off. She spent at least 5 years in this state before dying, the quality of her life was shocking. She was a trooper about it, but she went from a woman who spent hours a day out gardening and walking to being bed ridden basically. <br /><br />Personally I think we're all going to die and everything is bad for us these days anyway so you should smoke if you want to, but if you're leaning towards not wanting to maybe take the time to look at all the common illnesses smokers suffer in their later years. It's pretty decent quitting motivation. Obviously I don't smoke, nor have I ever smoked*, so I can't offer quitting advice beyond that... and the fact that there are pretty people out there that just can not stomach kissing smokers (See this fact would be motivation for me at least ;p )<br /><br />*Which makes the fact that I crave a cigarette when I'm really stressed rather weird. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 14:55:35 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Finagle</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I wish I could still find these around:<br /><br /><img src="http://houel.club.fr/pages/pict/2-blackdeath.jpg" alt="Black Death cigs" ><br /><br />Anyone who still smokes knows it will kill you (OK, not reliably, but we get it already).<br /><br />Obviously that hasn't stopped those of us who still smoke. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 14:59:38 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Fauxhammer</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I used to get Black Death cigarettes at the Store 24 in Charlestown. They sucked. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 15:11:13 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>groundxero</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Don't know if anyone mentioned this already but I've heard of:<br /><br /><img src="http://www.vaporcig.com/images/banner2.jpg" alt="vaporcig" ><br /><br /><blockquote >So what is The VaporTM? It's a state-of-the-art Electronic Cigarette, sometimes referred to as an e-cig or e-cigarette. It looks like a cigarette, smokes like a cigarette, and tastes like a cigarette. In fact, it is far better than smoking a real cigarette in more ways than one. We call it vaping, not smoking. Once you inhale the vapor or steam, you will feel that "throat hit" just as you would with a real tobacco cigarette, but with our e-cigarette, you are finally able to enjoy a smoking alternative without the cancer-causing tar or carbon monoxide.</blockquote><br /><br /><a href="http://www.vaporcig.com/" >http://www.vaporcig.com/</a> ]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 15:29:03 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Finagle</author>
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			<![CDATA[ There's a couple of e-cig conversations already existing - at least one started by me.<br /><br />I'd love to use them exclusively, but there are two problems in the U.S.:<br /><br />1. They may be legislated out of existence at any minute.<br />2. Too many competing brands and a serious lack of standards and interchangability.<br /><br />Once the legal fears and lack of interoperability between different brands is overcome, I'll gladly sign up to start vaping fulltime. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 13:23:13 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>jdack</author>
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			<![CDATA[ As an update/addendum, I checked with all my friends who switched to e-cigs.<br /><br />They are all back on regular death sticks after a month or two. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 14:42:24 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>m3t4lfi3nd</author>
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			<![CDATA[ 16 years baby! Like a fiend! I loved smoking for most of them 16 years, and when I started as long ago as that was to try to remember I always said "I'll quit when I want to." Well ten years later I wanted to but didn't want to, made it like a day and a half and was a basket case. Forward five years later still needing my fix - or else - I discovered Freedom from smoking. It's like a 12 step program, anyways I did the first step and a a half, set my date to quit, did it cold turkey and made it 21 days. Which does not seem like much, but it was a lot to me then! I started again and now I had willpower! So for the next nine months I could go all week without a cigarette and then smoke a pack on the weekend. Or some weeks I'd just smoke one a day. I tried all kinds of shit to show I was boss, but as soon as I decided to get pissed, I was smoking like a chimney. Every time I could not control myself when drinking, and that was the worst I think... So I came to the conclusion I'd rather indulge in spirits than smoke and coming up here in March will be 7 years I've quit and I only messed up once when I was real sauced and instantly hated it, it tasted like shit! I made myself smoke the whole damn thing though :D<br /><br />Anyways check it out: http://www.ffsonline.org/ - it works, if it could make me quit it could make anyone quit if they even half ass want to. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 23:04:24 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>revaladdinsane</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I quit about 3 years ago after smoking for 15 years. The first week or so was hard as hell, but it got better. I still like the scent of a cigarette, but I don't have the desire to smoke 'em.<br /><br />I still have the oral fixation, tho. I'f Ice Breaker mints turn out to give me cancer, it is gonna be hilarious. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 23:33:41 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>noblelion</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Holy mother of Vishnu...<br /> <br />I decided to quit about 4 days ago.<br /><br />I have fallen prey to the same respiratory ailment twice in the past three months.  It's an ailment I deal with at least two to three times per year... and it just ain't worth it.  <br /><br />It's like bronchitis combined with strep throat, and a punch to the groin.  And it's all tobacco related.<br /><br />So, as of now, I'm 5 days smoke-free.<br /><br />Best of luck to the rest of you.<br /><br /><em >Edited to add:</em> I've been a smoker for around 12 years... ]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Feb 2010 11:52:18 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>ASedano</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I've been playing with the idea of quitting for several months now but haven't taken the full leap yet.  Part of the reason is that my roommate smokes in the house and gets his smokes online, a few cartons at a time.  That means I don't have to go out if I want one, I can just get a pack from his room.  However I am house sitting for a few days so I decided to not bring any with me and see if I can get started now.  I'm hoping that if I have already gone several days with out one it will be easier once I get home to resist.  So far this is day three and I haven't killed anyone...yet. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 16:26:39 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Charlene</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Weird this has been bumped up the day I decided I wanted to stop. I tried to go cold turkey yesterday. Failed. Today I had 10 instead of my usual 20 so I hope I can keep that going at least. I tried nicotine gum. Disgusting. Tried herbal cigarettes. Even more disgusting. My main reason for wanting to stop is the money. A fiver a day is ridiculous. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 01:25:49 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Jeff Owens</author>
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			<![CDATA[ @Charlene - I got out just before it started to get bad, price-wise.  They were, if memory serves, three bucks a pack when I quite.  This was in November of '99, so if you remember the cost then, that would be a better estimate than my off-the-top-of-my-head one.  But, yeah, I have constantly been thankful for the money I save from not smoking.  I truly couldn't afford it, these days. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 04:37:54 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>texture</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Forgive me, I know you've all seen this but:<br /><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9ySCcnoo3c" ></a><br /><br />Good old Bill.<br /><br />Smoked since I was 12. I now have, to borrow an Ellis-ism, weak crack-baby lungs. I rattle when I breathe in. I cough up unspeakable things. I've given myself bloody asthma. Was quite close to quitting last year - got into a good exercise regime, just smoked one or two a day, was ready to quit... it was Thailand that broke me. Marlboro Lights for 50p. Dear me. <br /><br />Now I'm back on the straights... Pack a day. WTF am I doing?<br /><br />I got hypnotised too, a while back... didn't seem to work as well for me as it did for Yoav. Maybe my hypnotist was just a bit crap.<br /><br />Like a few others on this thread, having read it, I think I need to make another attempt at stopping. I don't give a toss about dying young. I just want to be healthy now.<br /><br />But... there are few pleasures in the world greater than a cigarette you really want to smoke. Even if I quit, I will always be a smoker. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2010 09:59:51 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>helloMuller</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I quit cold turkey last year after puffing away a pack a day for 15 years. Don't miss, don't crave it, didn't have the urge. It was pretty much surprisingly easy to quit when you really want to.<br />And to be a complete hypocrite, I think cigarette smoke smells horrible and I really can't stand it anymore (although I will never be one of those twats that moan when someone blows smoke in your face). ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 08:08:00 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>JJH</author>
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			<![CDATA[ You just have to be ready to quit. Until then, you'll just fail over and over again. When I was ready, though, the gum reallly helped. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 08:34:16 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>joe.distort</author>
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			<![CDATA[ im two days out (again)...im convinced i can do this. im going to buy the gum for the first time if i think im gonna crack. <br /><br />a big step for me has been the realization that i cant really drink much while im re-adjusting to a non smoking life. drinking is just too much of a trigger. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 09:12:01 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>JJH</author>
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			<![CDATA[ You should get the gum now, so you have it when you need it. <br /><br />I took it for six weeks. Six weeks weening off the gun. 1st week = 6 pieces a day. 2nd week = 5 pieces a day, etc., etc. That really worked for me. I quit.... almost three years ago, almost four? I forget, but I've never looked back and I ended up saving near two grand a year not buying smokes, I figured. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 09:12:25 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>JJH</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Although, admittedly, I miss my lighter and the ritual ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 09:36:25 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>joe.distort</author>
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			<![CDATA[ yeah, the ritual is the big deal for me. i only smoked like three cigs a day (unless i was drinking) so the addiction is the easy part to kick.<br /><br />and hey, what do non smokers do during shitty bands at shows????? thats a big trigger time for me as well. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 11:21:49 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Will Ellwood</author>
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			<![CDATA[ <blockquote >and hey, what do non smokers do during shitty bands at shows????? thats a big trigger time for me as well. </blockquote><br /><br />Not see shit bands, or drink more with the money we don't spend on cigarettes. <br /><br />As someone who's never smoked this thread is interesting. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 11:34:52 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>joe.distort</author>
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			<![CDATA[ well, going to like 3-7 shows a month i cant exactly control who all five bands are on bills, but thanks? ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 13:40:03 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Yoav</author>
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			<![CDATA[ So. It's been a month since the hypno... and it is still working. I'm not sure why it's working for me and not for others. I can only assume I am weak minded and incredibly easily led! ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 22:24:44 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Audley Strange</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Fuck it! If it works it works yeah? That's me on my third month and still don't miss it. Expect for a few cranky eastenders style dramas from my wife in week four it's really been easier thanboth of us thought it would be. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 05:56:22 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Fauxhammer</author>
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			<![CDATA[ My dad and I got hyp-mo-tized; it worked for him immediately, and he's been five years without (after smoking two packs of Kool Filter Kings a day for forty years); I, however, had bugs under my skin immediately thereafter. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 06:33:03 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>agentarsenic</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Weird I find this thread a full three weeks after quitting. What I did to quit: I got really fucking sick, to the point where smelling a cigarette made my sinuses dry up into bloody holes in my face. I was like that for about a week, and just decided not to go back. I've smoked maybe four single cigarettes since then, and I'm ok with that. <br /><br />The only time I found myself really wanting a cigarette at first was after a large meal. My gut didn't feel complete unless boosted with a nicotine digestive supplement. Last night I found myself in a rare pissed off state, and I wanted a cigarette more than any point since I've quit. Really weird, that. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 08:09:35 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>wishlish</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Isn't talking about quitting smoking on a Warren Ellis-sponsored board sacrilege? What's next, comparing abortion providers on the Vatican board? ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 13:12:16 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>dr_barnowl</author>
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			<![CDATA[ <a href="http://forums.catholic.com/" >I dare you</a> :-) ]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 04:00:27 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>kahavi</author>
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			<![CDATA[ A friend once told me that we smokers don't quit, we just have hiatuses. Sometimes, those hiatuses can last for the rest of our lives. In my case, the longest I've been without a smoke was nearly a year. The current no-smoking stretch has lasted for about a month now. I'm hoping that I can keep myself off the damn things for a long while, maybe even years, this time around. I have enough problems with my health without adding smoking-induced problems to that.<br /><br />The problem with cigarettes for me isn't nicotine, it's the whole social aspect of it. That, and I associate smoking with stress release, so whenever I'm stressed out, I crave cigarettes. Hate it, really. I don't like feeling or being addicted to anything. I've already had to deal with painkiller addiction before I turned twenty, and it wasn't fun nor pretty nor easy. By comparison, quitting smoking even for a short while is a cakewalk to me. If only I could keep myself off the cigarettes permanently... ]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 07:05:15 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Fauxhammer</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I though I'd posted this story already--FAIL<br /><br />I wound up having one last Monday at work. There was an incident, and it was either smoke one or have a shitty rest of the day. I bummed a Marlboro Light off a coworker, went down to the loading dock, lit it, and inhaled. <br /><br />There was no angelic chorus, no dizzy headrush, no feeling like I as about to nut my pants. <br /><br />Everything felt exceedingly normal. Like my last smoke was an hour before that one, not fifteen months. All the stress dropped from me; all the weird neuroses and panic that I'd picked up since I quit, just gone. Exhaled. I went back to work in charge and in control.  <br /><br />That's the scary thing; I'm going to have to be extra-careful. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 19:14:36 -0800</pubDate>
		<author>Just_Floating</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Hypnotism recording that I made years ago. It has helped a few people quit.<br /><br />http://www.nadiar.net/Isaac_Privett_-_Breath.mp3 ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 18:19:41 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Fauxhammer</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I fear I may have gotten myself in a bit of trouble on Friday. I haven't had one since, but the casualness with which I had that one was scary. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 05:44:39 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Wilf</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I am picking up some Champix from my docs tonight. I have to admit to being quite nervous about some of the possible side-effects, but I WANT to stop smoking, and my willpower is weak. Fingers crossed they don't turn me into an insomniac lunatic! ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 06:01:07 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Fauxhammer</author>
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			<![CDATA[ @wilf If you experience any weird brain activity at all, stop taking it and see your doctor immediately. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 08:05:57 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>joe.distort</author>
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			<![CDATA[ i....i havent done well. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 08:31:12 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Wilf</author>
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			<![CDATA[ @Fauxhammer - I've read the horror stories, and I will be binning them instantly if I get any of the bad side effects (although most people say the 'vivid' dreams are actually really good!). My worry is that with the mood swings etc, will I actually <em >know</em> it's happening? My other half is starting on them too, so if we both get the mad side effects, it might be unpleasant.<br /><br />That said, there's lots of reports out there of people getting no side effects whatsoever. Fingers crossed!! ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 08:34:02 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>kahavi</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Aaaaand I horribly failed my current attempt at quitting smoking. I hate stress, I really do. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 13:34:13 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Verissimus</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Ah it's not easy. You just have to be ready for it I guess. I never thought I'd stop smoking, then one day I got so sick of it I stopped. Never smoked one since that day, and that's about 15 years ago. <br /><br />I'm happy to be rid of it. The first few years I still had the urge every now and then. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 08:08:38 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Wilf</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Day 1 of the champix today, and I've decided to blog it, both as something to do to distract me briefly from smoking, and as evidence if the pills make me go insane and butcher someone! :) <br /><br /><a href="http://farewelltotabs.blogspot.com/" >Farewell to Tabs</a> ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 14:44:18 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>agentarsenic</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I broke down and bought a pack after switching from 2nd to 3rd shift. I needed the nicotine for it's stimulant effects. I....I haven't done well since. I want to not smoke again, but first this sleeping business must be sorted. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 18:17:58 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Finagle</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I'm going to be adding some botanicals into my diet - just got some kava kava extract, and am waiting on some kratom.  I'm hoping that the combined stimulant/relaxant effect of these sorts of herbals might provide an effective substitute for the nicotine.  <br /><br />Basically, the methadone approach to cigs. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:38:38 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Rachæl Tyrell</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Goddamn, if I could afford it, I'd buy the blu electronic thingee.<br /><br />i'd quit only once in my life.  I lived with a 2 pack a day smoker, and we were terribly broke.  We'd not be able to afford dog food or cat food often, and he'd often leave for 12 hours at a time when I'd have no money, and two cigarettes to my name.  I was tired of having nic fits so often because of his asshole-ness, and I felt it was truly despicable for he and I to spent so much daily on smokes instead of keeping our pets on proper diets.  So...  one day I quit.  Cold turkey.  <br /><br />Spite is what did it.  Spite is some seriously powerful stuff.  He continued to smoke two packs a day, and neither of us left the apartment very often.  It lasted over a year, until I moved on my own and ended in a sexual friendship with someone who smoked relatively infrequently.  That before bed and then post sex cigarette became ritual.  <br /><br />One cigarette a day (if that) soon turned into 2 packs a week once I was kicked out of my home, moved to the middle of suburban nowhere with my old Aunt who smokes a pack a day, and got my heart broken.  I listen to my Aunt hack and sputter and cough all day, and in her sleep, and she smells like SHIT from her chain smoking in her car and refusal to open the windows more than an inch.  When I first moved here, she actually turned me off smoking entirely, and I stopped for weeks.  But the stress of everything...  brought me right back.<br /><br />I...  really should stop.  After medical bills, I only have maybe $100 a month to live on, which goes towards food mostly, or should.  It's not a physical addiction.  I don't smoke frequently enough to have nic-fits anymore.  I still only smoke four cigarettes a day, generally.  Those cigarettes are all....  cathartic.  A moment to step outside in the night quiet.  They are all to stop myself from some terrible mental state, to feel (ironically enough) cleansed.<br /><br />I've got vein issues in my legs, which I'm only now about to go to a doctor for.  I started getting great pain in my right leg in my early 20's, around the same time I started getting big blue varicose viens right below the inside of the knee.  It always aches.  <br /><br />It's so stupid, smoking.  <br /><br />But...  people get drunk, knowing it's of little benefit, and will hurt the next day.  I smoke, because the pressure in my chest will explode right now if I don't.  It's a silly thing to base one's emotional control on, but if it works, it works. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 04:50:21 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>NeilFord</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I quit five years ago, used them nicotine patches. They are effective at removing chemical cravings, so if you can get your head right, can really help.<br /><br />My skin was quite sensitive to them, so itchy as hell when you first slapped them on, I looked like I'd been attacked by a giant octopus I had so many red rings all over my back and shoulders.<br /><br />Prior to using the patches I found it useful to convince myself that I was only going to give up the daily smoking and that if I was at a party or something and felt like a smoke, well I'd just have one or two and not worry about it too much. I also started hand rolling cigarettes, then only smoking outside - everything I could do to make having a ciggy a pain in the arse.<br /><br /> Seems to have worked for me, I don't smoke now at all, although I do still get the occasional craving. And you do save a load of cash folks. Worked out I've probably saved upwards of £5000 GBP that I would have spent on ciggys over the last 5 years - although what I've done with that cash fuck knows... ]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 05:25:36 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Verissimus</author>
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			<![CDATA[ <blockquote >I listen to my Aunt hack and sputter and cough all day, and in her sleep, and she smells like SHIT from her chain smoking in her car and refusal to open the windows more than an inch.</blockquote><br /><br />God yes. My father still chain smokes, now I love the man, but he stinks like old tobacco that has been fermenting in a stagnant pond during a a muggy week in summer. And I just can't bring myself to tell him!<br /><br />It's not a particularly pleasant addiction. And quitting will only get harder as you get older. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 10:22:14 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Dan Kelly</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Ex-smoker for about 10 years, and although I really detest smoking now, mentally I'd still like a cig at times.<br /><br />I always have problems with working out how much I smoked when registering with doctors.  Smoked about 5 a day for 3 years at college, and a pack on Friday, Saturday night.  Could go through the summer without touching any during the week until Friday down the pub.  At Uni probably upped to 10 a day, or more if doing field work (christ that was a nice feeling)<br /><br />Ramped down after Uni so only really smoking in pubs, "properly" gave up when I moved to London.  Probably had 2/3 a year to kill the craving every now and then.  Smoking ban put a stop to that.<br /><br />Definitely the head that's the hardest. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 10:11:05 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>mycroft3x</author>
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			<![CDATA[ If you don't have a reason to quit, you're not going to.  Every American has seen millions of commercials (which seem to have gone out of vogue lately, thank FUCK) filled with hard-bodied, no-talent actors telling us how many babies are stabbed in the eyes by cigarettes every minute and demonstrating how good their clean lungs make them at rollerblade-basketball or some such shit.  And we get the same song and dance from militant non-smokers - see highly accurate Bill Hicks impersonation <a href="http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=7674&page=2#Item_18" >above</a>.  Statistics are not reasons.  These things do not help you quit.  Nobody ever quit any drug because people were pricks to them for years.  You quit for you and your people - that's it.  A.<br /><br />B:  The reason gum/patches/hypnosis/exorcism by the Ten-Eyed Men of the Empty Quarter only works for some people is because you're the one quitting.  These things can help, but you can't expect - with any part of your mind - that it's just going to fix you.  You don't get to just swallow something or listen dozily to a Garrison Keillor soundalike for an hour and have it reboot part of your brain; it's still your decision, and without that element, you're going to wake up happy and refreshed, peel off the patch and light right the fuck up.  <br /><br />Little story.<br /><br />A little over a year ago, on my birthday, I decided that it was time to knock it the hell off.  I have a girlfriend now, we plan to marry, I want to be here for a long time, etc.  So, I had a reason.  Note:  a related motive was money:  No cigs = less expenses = more money = shorter path to the white picket fence.  If I used the patch or the gum and it didn't take, that (sizable) expenditure was for nothing.  Then I get to thinking:  What am I fighting?  It's just me I've got to get over.<br /><br />So, I built my own quitting method.  My big deal, I realized, wasn't about nicotine anyway; for me, it was oral fixation and ritual, so that was what I used to quit.  I loaded my pouch with my last twenty cigarettes (yes, I had a belt pouch specifically for my cigarettes, with a lighter-scabbard along the side).  For each one I smoked, I recorded my thoughts on it in a notebook (sadly, now lost).  My girlfriend, a non-smoker herself, actually had one with me towards the end.  She was unimpressed.  I smoked my last down to the filter, and put it down in the tray, gently, and watched it go out.  My girlfriend bought me a package of wooden dowels and cut them to an appropriate length.  I chewed on them for five days to handle the oral end of things.  And that was that.  <br /><br />A few months later I had four hand-rolled cigarettes at a party, because I wanted to.  I enjoyed them.  This did not start a downward spiral of addiction; I just had four cigarettes.  I chose not to make a big deal out of them.  Haven't wanted any since.  Cigarettes have no power of their own.  I am not trying to call you a big girl's blouse if you find quitting difficult.  Just stop thinking of cigarettes as magical rods that brighten your eyes and heal your twisted heart.  You are not in an epic battle for your very soul.  You are ceasing to burn plants in your mouth.<br /><br />(Final note:  I smoked Camels.  My girlfriend bought the dowels in the exact diameter of a Virginia Slim.  My friends congratulated me on my quit by saying, "You've come a long way baby.") ]]>
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		<title>Smoking Cigarettes &amp; Quitting</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 02:29:37 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Jeff Owens</author>
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			<![CDATA[ <blockquote >I smoked my last down to the filter, and put it down in the tray, gently, and watched it go out.</blockquote><br /><br />This is <em >easily</em> my favorite thing in this thread. Makes me wish I had done it that way. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 09:28:11 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>JJH</author>
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			<![CDATA[ <blockquote >yes, I had a belt pouch specifically for my cigarettes, with a lighter-scabbard along the side</blockquote><br /><br />At the very least, quitting cigerettes saved you from wearing a belt pouch... ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 05:54:58 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Wilf</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Well, apart from the fact that it appears I am the WORST blogger in the world, my other news is that I smoked my last cigarette 3 days ago. Early days, I know, but mentally, I've quit.<br /><br />I failed to update my Champix blog, as ironically the day after I started I was struck down by a bout of feeble-lung, and by the time I was over that, the urge to blog had faded . However, I would recommend trying the Champix to anyone - the only side-effect I've had is about five minutes of nausea when taking the morning tablet. Other than that, not a thing apart from the fact that I've FINALLY stopped smoking. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 06:32:24 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Rachæl Tyrell</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I've discovered a way to reinforce my smoking <em >less</em>:  buying cigarettes that are not my specific brand of choice.  It's far easier to put out a cigarette half way through and teach my brain that it just isn't something that I <em >want</em> when it's of a different taste and feel. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 09:25:33 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>mycroft3x</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Rachael Noel Tyrell:<br /><blockquote >I've discovered a way to reinforce my smoking less: buying cigarettes that are not my specific brand of choice.</blockquote>True, that can work to make you smoke less, unless you get used to the new brand.  If you choose to quit though, I wouldn't recommend that as a method.  In college, I had exactly this exchange with five different people:<br /><br />"Wait, you smoke Parliaments?"<br />"I know, they taste like cardboard that hates its job.  They make me enjoy smoking less so it's easier to quit."<br />"How long have you been smoking them?"<br />"Two and a half years." ]]>
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