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    This is what half my goddamn reading list looks like now:

    fucked
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    Another bad choice made by SixApart which should start backfiring in a week or so.
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      CommentAuthorIsenMike
    • CommentTimeDec 1st 2007
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    What the hell is wrong with them? I understand that they're trying to cover their asses legally, but what makes them think they have to go so far above and beyond what every other site on the net is doing? It's ridiculous.

    And of course all this BS after I buy a permanent account.... *grumble*
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      CommentAuthorAlexis
    • CommentTimeDec 1st 2007
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    Inappropriate for adults? What does livejournal classify as inappropriate for everyone?
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      CommentAuthorturing
    • CommentTimeDec 1st 2007
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    Does anyone know of any cases where a "Click here to confirm you're 18 and totally not just lying" age-verification system has gotten to court? I'm really curious how well that sort of thing holds up.

    I mean, obviously it's not going to stop any kid anywhere from looking at adult material, but complaining about that is missing the point. It's not really supposed to prevent access, it's supposed to shift blame. If they have the warning and age-click, then they can say "Well, we didn't host adult content for kids, your kid lied about his age to get in. He's the one who broke the rules." Which could just work. But then, IANAL, which is why I'm curious if this has ever been legally tested. Is it enough to have a rule without effective enforcement? It's not as if there's anything they really can do to check people's ages, and I honestly don't blame them for being worried about being sued by some irate parent.
    • CommentAuthormunin218
    • CommentTimeDec 1st 2007
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    *runs screaming*

    i havent checked my lj yet......

    this will drive me nuts......
    • CommentAuthorKinesys
    • CommentTimeDec 1st 2007
     (78.7)
    Well, at least LJ is still essentially wide open and not some closed camp like Myspace. I hate that you have to log in and have an account to do anything with Myspace. Bah!
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      CommentAuthorbudgie
    • CommentTimeDec 1st 2007
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    I don't know what it says about my friends that I haven't seen one of those messages yet..
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    "Inappropriate for adults? What does livejournal classify as inappropriate for everyone? "

    ANYTHING I WANT TO READ, apparently.
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      CommentAuthorDoc Ocassi
    • CommentTimeDec 1st 2007
     (78.10)
    I do realise this may be veering slightly off topic.

    turing
    Does anyone know of any cases where a "Click here to confirm you're 18 and totally not just lying" age-verification system has gotten to court? I'm really curious how well that sort of thing holds up.


    I had an experience with something like this where my younger brother, he is 16, complained that there was some type of virus on his computer. The problem was, whenever the machine was on there was an IE window that stayed on top and restarted when closed, that was demanding a payment of ~£30, this was from some porn website where when you login you say you are over 18 the site downloads, what is essentially a trojan, onto the computer, and you must pay before they will remove it. Now this was done by one of my brothers friends, and I know this because my brother is registered blind and he uses a voice synth to use his computer. When I phoned up the company they just demanded payment, yea right! I then phoned up trading standards and apparently what they are doing is legal, they have a right to demand payment from the owner of the computer to remove this piece of malware that could have been installed by anyone, essentially it is the computers owner who owes the company money. When I explained the full situation to the girl at TS she told me I could probably get the trojan removed and the payment waived if I explained the situation to the company!! I assume that if this is essentially entering into some type of contract that an under-ager could be charged with fraud if he fills in the details incorrectly.
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      CommentAuthordswood
    • CommentTimeDec 1st 2007
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    Given that I mostly only use my LiveJournal as a tool for 98% reading/keeping up and 2% occasionally reminding distant friends that I am still alive (or at least arguably functional at times) these days, I can see this getting very old, very fast - for me at least...

    I'm lazy - the less clicks it takes to get me to my monkeychow-brand-brainfood, the better.
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      CommentAuthorlamuella
    • CommentTimeDec 1st 2007
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    I just wish they wouldn't make every stupid fucking change something that's automatically switched on and which you have to opt out of. Every month they pull another stroke of stupidity that I have to fight my way out of, like the snap.com shitfest from last month.
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    I assume that if this is essentially entering into some type of contract that an under-ager could be charged with fraud if he fills in the details incorrectly.


    *Are* you able to enter into a contract if you are underage?

    (Alternative answer - get the kid who signed up for it to give you £30 or you'll tell his mum, even better, ask for £60 for 'expenses').
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      CommentAuthorretromancy
    • CommentTimeDec 1st 2007 edited
     (78.14)
    Complain to them about it here
    LJ tagging thread
    - I just had to click a button saying I was eighteen to read a perfectly safe item about clothing - WTF!

    EDIT:
    Yep LJ's system is effective too - apparently I get this default because i hadn't given them my birthdate so i just put in a false birthdate to see if it could pick it up and it didn't - can't imagine kids would think of that as well.
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      CommentAuthorturing
    • CommentTimeDec 1st 2007
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    I didn't even notice the snap.com thing for the longest time, because I've seen so much stupid shit from other sites that I keep NoScript running.
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    Possible fix for you Warren (and other sufferers), if you've not already done this:

    "As a default setting, they have EVERY SINGLE JOURNAL set to filter out the "adult content" setting! So if your friends try to do the right thing and mark their porny LJ's appropriately, you CAN'T SEE THEM until you change your viewing settings. Which is kind of hard to figure out how to, even if you know you have to in the first place.

    Go to your User Options page, and click on Journal - settings. The Viewing Options page will appear, and all the way at the bottom is a section called "AdultContent Options". Your "Safe Search Options" has been set to "use moderate filtering - filters explicit and adult content".

    So if someone on your F-list has recently dropped off the map and you have no idea why, try going here and changing your settings. Otherwise, if their LJ is set to "adult" you won't be able to see any of their public entries on your friends page."

    This is, to put it mildly, not widely mentioned by 6A posts on the subject... after doing this (and making sure my full date of birth year is in my user details) all my pr0n and other growed-up stuff is running fine.
    • CommentAuthorjcfiala
    • CommentTimeDec 1st 2007
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    Huh. I use Livejournal constantly, and I haven't seen this at all. None of the groups I belong to, not even the blatantly pornographic one, has this sort of cruft on it. I suppose it's because my age is set on my account or something? How curious.
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    "Go to your User Options page, and click on Journal - settings. The Viewing Options page will appear, and all the way at the bottom is a section called "AdultContent Options". Your "Safe Search Options" has been set to "use moderate filtering - filters explicit and adult content"."

    Yeah, I did.

    It reset itself to Moderate and Collapse Adult Content 24 hrs later.
    • CommentAuthorAlexa_D
    • CommentTimeDec 1st 2007
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    It reset itself to Moderate and Collapse Adult Content 24 hrs later.


    Well if that's not the biggest load of bullshit to come out of this whole clusterfuck.
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      CommentAuthorretromancy
    • CommentTimeDec 1st 2007 edited
     (78.20)
    People Article on Teen Sucide
    Hmm. someone suggested this is a half-arsed internet policing reaction to this article.
    (read the bit down the bottom of the article)

    Anyone remember the journal deletion outcry?
    Live Journal deletion

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