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    • CommentAuthorarvandor
    • CommentTimeMar 14th 2010
    It wasn't shooting a childhood companion that caused Jack to throw up.

    It was Alice offhandedly talking about huge rats picking his corpse to the bone that caused him to spew his guts. :D
    • CommentAuthorthud
    • CommentTimeMar 14th 2010 edited
    @ Indigo Rose
    No. You misunderstood. Sorry.
    I love it either way, just differently!
    There was an earlier comment about the limited format, and I was just responding without being too specific.
    No. Responding is too strong. This was more like gently chiding. Or supposed to be.
    You're absolutely right about the pacing and suspense. There is a different dynamic, though, when you have a completed volume. Then you have something more, but less than these episodic bursts.
    (But when I read FA on my computer monitor, I find myself shifting gears to revise each weekly installment into one with greater continuity.)
    Warren may have missed another calling in advertising to concentrate on illustrated novels.
    That would be to our benefit, and thank you all!
    • CommentAuthoromnifool
    • CommentTimeMar 14th 2010
    I'm going to have to cast my vote on Luke coming back. <a href="">

    If Mark can do it, then certainly Luke can. And come on, really, wouldn't it nag you if we didn't have the little bastard running around?
    • CommentAuthorfod_xp
    • CommentTimeMar 14th 2010
    @ Omnifool- honestly, yes I would nag, Luke is the Dr. Smith from Lost in Space (the one with Jonathan Harris and Bill Mummy). Robot, Dr. Smith, and Will made that entire show!

    • CommentTimeMar 15th 2010
    @thud -

    I hear you but - one of the most amazing things about the online version is that you get to experience every sweet detail of Mr. Duffield's fine work.

    Open Episode 0060 p.6 in Firefox. Hit "Ctrl-+" a few times. Read every word written on the wall. Count all 17 scribbles. Finally make out what they're saying. Count them again now that you know.

    I still get the willies thinking about the condition someone has to be in to write that.

    Couldn't get a close-up this good in the printed version. Couldn't get that experience so up close and personal. (Okay, maybe with a magnifying glass. But I haven't had one of those for a while, so ...)

    - That said, I love me the printed version as well, to be able to read at my own pace without clicking. But thank you Ladies and Gentlemen of the Freakangels Production Team for making such wonderful art at such an amazing resolution.
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    Sorry to poke flaws, but it's a little disheartening hearing that when the files I work on are 600 dots per inch especially so print IS more detailed than web, which is only 72 dpi, a reduction from the original of over 800%
    A good magnifying glass is all you need to reveal far more detail in print than your zoom button can! :)
    • CommentAuthorfod_xp
    • CommentTimeMar 15th 2010
    Paul is right. I don't see any evidence of Paul and his lovely assistants "jobbing" the art.

    When I put on my reading glasses from Sam's Club (Walmart 2.0) I can see everything, all the little details.

    That or get a better monitor for your computer.
    • CommentTimeMar 17th 2010
    Here's my prediction. Since a severe drug overdose (brain damage), drowning (brain damage), and spike through head (brain damage) all resulted in powering up, look out for Luke!
    • CommentTimeMar 17th 2010
    ^ If that proves to be true, and the other 'angels work it out - do you think we might see any of the gang deliberately induce brain damage to force themselves to level up?
    • CommentAuthorNakedCelt
    • CommentTimeMar 17th 2010
    How powerful was Luke, really? He said he was one of the more powerful 'kAngels, but what we've actually seen is this:
    He couldn't figure out why people disliked him or what they were going to do about it -- some telepath he was. He got smacked down by Caz and Sirkka, though admittedly there were two of them. He got lost wandering about an area he'd presumably lived in for months; why not tap into someone's head and pull out their knowledge of the area? He couldn't sense Alice's location or intentions even though she was presumably focusing very hard on hunting him down at the time, which presumably would stand out psychically. And, of course, at the last resort, trying to raise a shield, he couldn't get it up to save his life.
    Frankly, the evidence suggests that Luke was a psychic weakling, and a blowhard; that his talk about Arkady and Mark being the only ones who could stand up to him was so much hot air.
    • CommentTimeMar 18th 2010
    I will note that during Volume 2, Luke was able to tap a mortar round that had already been fired with precision enough to make it hit the "Freakcave." He was also able to cloak several members of a raiding party despite the fact that they were spread out over a largish distance. For that matter, when we first "meet" Luke, he's holding a kind of telepathy conference on the nature of time within the dreams of several people who are also widely separated. Luke doesn't (didn't?) seem to be a person who's good at spur of the moment stuff, but give him a bit of planning and effort time and he's able to pull off some seriously intricate, dangerous stuff.
    • CommentTimeMar 18th 2010 edited
    @johnjones: We don't know if he did any of those things. Sure, he was accused (by one person about the mortar shell), but there's nothing flatly proving his involvement in any of that. All one can do without evidence is theorize.

    As for the conference, that seems to be the boilerplate ability for many of the Freakangels. Luke's not necessarily special; he's shown that he's good at showing off, but when the chips are down, he loses his composure and turns into a child. That's in terms of mentality and ability, mind you.

    If he's a tactician, as you say, then he's piss poor at it. All I've seen of him is his ability to lose his temper, doing catastrophic things without considering the consequences.
    • CommentTimeMar 18th 2010
    All I've seen of him is his ability to lose his temper, doing catastrophic things without considering the consequences.
    Which would make him pretty dangerous, when he's wielding that sort of power. A person with a gun, the ability to use it, and the composure to know when to use it, and the knowledge of the consequences using it entails is much less dangerous than someone with a gun that fires it willy-nilly as a general catch-all problem-solver.

    Of course, if you have the former, and they're still a bit of a bad egg, you end up with Mark. If we were going DnD-alignment with this, I would put Mark at lawful evil and Luke at chaotic evil. Luke is more dangerous simply because he's unpredictable. That he may be stupid and/or socially inept has nothing to do with how dangerous and/or powerful he may be.
    • CommentAuthorMrMonk
    • CommentTimeMar 18th 2010
    Shitty week. Looking forward to Freakangels Friday coming in for the save.
    • CommentAuthorBerserker
    • CommentTimeMar 18th 2010
    @rickiep00h - Really? With all the geek authority I can muster, I'd say otherwise. In my mind, Mark is chaotic evil - whatever, whenever, so long as the fun doesn't stop. Luke I'd say is neutral evil - so long as it doesn't come back to me, if I can get away with it it's all good. Mark just liked being a bastard. Mark knew being such was frowned upon, but didn't let that get in the way of his fun. Luke liked being a bastard, so long as it didn't impugn on his being a bastard. Luke knew that he could have fun, so long as the others weren't privvy to it.

    ( I always understood the difference between the two as you could ALWAYS count on chaotic evil to do whatever struck it's fancy, whereas neutral evil would make you think it was doing what you wanted until the knife slipped 'tween your ribs... )

    Difference being: Mark knew he was a shit, but assumed he was charming enough to convince the others it was okay. Luke knew he was being a shit, but was savvy enough to understand that being such was NOT accepted, and had to be kept on the down-low.

    From what we've seen, both were 'sneaky' about being the horrible monsters that they'd decided to be, but Mark ( from what I've inferred, at least ) wasn't too concerned with what the others thought. Luke was. Maybe that's just because Mark played his 'hand' openly first, and Luke learned from that. Maybe it's because Luke was always the more sneaky rather than proud of the two.
    It might even be because of the roles they played within the group before they did what they did to the world. Mark was the ringleader - the one they all looked up to. He had the charm, brains, looks, and suave social skills. Luke...didn't. He was smart, but the awkward kind of smart that ends up coming off the ass, condescending and holier-than-thou.

    I think the REAL difference between Mark/Luke and the rest of the 'Angels is this: Mark/Luke worked toward developing their packages with self interest in mind, while the rest - at least, in general, went a more holistic direction.

    @ Naked Celt - Let's be honest, it's often the smartest people who are the MOST impossibly self-absorbed. They get the sense that they are so far above everyone around them that they lose sight of the most obvious. They get SO far into themselves they lose the perspective that reminds them they exist in a world other than that they themselves have defined.

    Pride, as they say, goeth before the fall.
    • CommentTimeMar 18th 2010
    Just a reminder: Freakangels will be going live at noon GMT tomorrow -- which is currently an hour later than usual for anyone here in the states (5am PDT, 8am EDT).
    • CommentTimeMar 19th 2010
    (getting this in under the wire)

    Mr. Duffield:

    My sincere apologies; I sit corrected. Bought a magnifying glass specifically to view the detail in my printed pages (well okay, also I can now fry slow-moving insects and comatose canines).

    Won't change my position that it is more convenient to hit ctrl-+ (-: but without question, the magnifying glass is more rewarding.

    Bottom line, though, is that I am still supremely grateful for the webcomic format. Four weekly brief installments suit my instant-gratification muscle more than one longer monthly installment.

    So again, I thank the entire team from the bottom of my technologically challenged heart.
    • CommentTimeMar 19th 2010
    @rickiep00h: Point. Never said he wasn't dangerous, though; the main idea I was trying to get across is that he's nowhere near the grand intellectual he claims to be, and that the only thing that his tactics netted him was a .50AE round in the head. Here's hoping he stays down this time.

    Dunno about the 'more dangerous' bit. The damage a spontaneous element can do would be topical at best, even when as deep in the circle and as gifted as Luke was. Reason being is that with actions as violent as his, the "chaotic evil" types tend to announce themselves. No real element of surprise, and nothing a patch-up job can't fix afterward... provided no one dies in the outburst. Nobody died here (for all we know), so that takes away from what Luke did. All his tantrum cost Whitechapel is a trashed steamcopter, a few bullets, and some medical supplies.

    Mark, on the other hand, stood poised to send in waves of worker bees, having already sent some in which includes, but is not limited to: a mortar team coupled with gunmen, an armed faction that came via ship (nearly killing Jack in the process), a brainwashed Alice (who nearly killed Connor), and an attempted rewiring of Kait once he got her alone.

    If you still think Luke's more dangerous, that's your call.
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    Maybe it was hidden Mark that directed the mortar, not Luke.