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  1.  (7906.81)
    @johnjones - When was Mark shot in the thigh?

    Back in Ep 78 when the young FAs were on the run.
    • CommentAuthorfa4ever
    • CommentTimeMar 21st 2010
    One of the best episodes ever! Love seeing the expressions on Mark's face fade from utter confidence, through bewilderment, and ending in raw terror. Hey, has anyone else noticed that arkady seems much more lucid lately? She's still odd, but she seems to have a better grasp on things lately, whereas in the early episodes she couldn't remember much and was extremely spacey.
  2.  (7906.83)
    In the early episodes, she had only just returned from a major prescience bender, and couldn't even remember who she'd pissed off/terrified with it. I can imagine you'd still be a bit sparkly-headed for a few days after. Of course, she did do some prescience again later, but it seemed like more of a controlled attempt.
    • CommentTimeMar 21st 2010 edited
    that's gonna hurt.

    Yes Ariana spring is up, like the flowers in our gardens. I stopped by a small village along the Seine and on the wall outside a tiny chapel, among other unasked graffiti, there was a ship curved in the stone dating back from the 1600's and it was moving really. Street art from the XVIIth century.
    • CommentAuthorsickoftv
    • CommentTimeMar 21st 2010
    @Everyone who has been commenting that the "evil" Freakangels were dealt with quickly: I don't think they are. It's still unclear that you can actually KILL a Freakangel. So much is unknown about the package, why they have it and how they got it that there is a LOT of story left. Mark didn't die from a direct strike to the brain, he awoke with new knowledge. Arkady was dead three minutes ago as KK puts it, and comes back with new knowledge. It seems that experiencing the edge of death enhances the package. We may have a resurrected Luke working to free a pacified Mark. Who knows?

    Great episode.
    • CommentTimeMar 21st 2010 edited
    To be fair, Mark and Luke weren't dealt with all that quickly. Episode 1 of Freakangels debuted on Feb 15, 2008. So it's taken more than two years of effort to get them to this point. And through most of that run, Mark has been a looming threat and Luke has been a ticking time bomb. Do you guys really believe that with the two most obvious "bad guys" dealt with that somehow the comic ends.

    Consider that Kait is still going to have a serious bone to pick with Kirk and Karl. Remember, she was fully willing to listen Mark and take action. Mark was the one who decided to push things. Even if the next panel shows bloody, scattered bits of Mark flung all over that room, a CRIME was committed by Kirk and Karl. Likewise, despite what he'd done, KK clearly didn't want Luke to be killed. And it seems likely that neither did Sirkka. It seems likely that Miki would object and possibly Conner as well. For that matter, there wasn't a trial, either, which would upset Kait. Finally, recall that Arkady intervened with Luke the first time at least partially to keep him from getting killed. Grant you that Caz, Jack and Kirk were more on the side of "kill his ass." And Karl, as the Gardener, certainly recognizes the need to "weed the garden" once in a while.

    The deaths of Luke and Mark could be nothing compared to a potential all-out Freak Civil War.

    And even beyond that, you have relationship issues. Jack and Sirkka love each other, but can't seem to find a way to make it work. And now he and Alice have killed together. Plus, they clearly have... I don't know if chemistry is the right word, but perhaps, a congruence of personality. I've wondered a little about that ever since he shared that little joke with her while they both sat on Luke's unconscious body. You think Sirkka's going to be pleased with the idea of Jack settling in with Alice, somehow who is quite capable of monogamy. Plus, Conner had essentially "claimed" Alice as his stray. Jack "stealing" her from him would certainly anger him greatly.

    Plus, let's not forget that "honorary Freakangel" or not, Alice is very much a human and quite a bit like the crew that was hunting them back in the day. And now she's killed one of them. Sure, Jack did the coup de grace, but it was Alice who truly killed Luke. Killed a Freakangel. And did it without so much as a second thought.

    You think this is over if Mark and Luke don't have some kind of silly-ass "risen from the dead" moment? Please, this thing is barely getting started.
    • CommentTimeMar 21st 2010
    Since we haven't seen a body yet, I'm not assuming that Mark is dead. Next week, boyos.

    Last week, we discussed whether Mark had been killed or not by the spike, and either way, how did he recover. Well, Mark seems to have odd expressions, somewhat disjointed conversational styles, and is a piss-poor planner. He had to kill Alices brothers rather than dominate them into what he wanted, and his reprogramming of Alice was pretty brutal and pretty easily reversed.

    My current opinion? Mark did indeed get a spike in the brain, but his package enabled him to survive it. On the other hand his package wasn't enough to heal him completely - not to dissimilar to Arkady. So he's a moderately brain-damaged FA who's mis-managed himself into a pretty bad place.

    Looking forward to next week, when my opinion will undoubtedly change again. :-)
    • CommentTimeMar 21st 2010
    " i'm sorry... "

    Oh ho ho, he's GONNA be, anyway.

    Orrrrr... maybe he does mean it as an apology for something he is preparing to do.

    BUUUUUT... the surprise he just experienced surely must have disturbed his equilibrium (assuming someone in such a mental state has any of that to begin with), and that, plus the still-not-fully-explored potential of a circle of psychically conjoined FAs, will almost certainly affect the outcome of what he may be about to attempt.

    Then agaaaaaain... perhaps they're ALL about to break into a huge musical number! "Lucky there's a FAM-i-ly GUYYYYY..."

    Sorry. Some realities make more sense than others.
    • CommentTimeMar 22nd 2010
    @johnjones NTM Alice is NOT a freakangel. honorary, maybe. But we'll see how that goes when the other realize she decided to take laws into her own hands because of or despite not being able to jack into the freak network.
    • CommentAuthororklord
    • CommentTimeMar 22nd 2010
    I went to the FA store and found lots of cool shirts and some nice prints and the trades, but I really would love to have a FA patch for my bag. That would be keen!
    • CommentTimeMar 22nd 2010
    @ razrangel

    It could be that was part of the reason Jack did what he did. He wanted to make sure it wouldn't be Freaks vs the human.
    • CommentTimeMar 22nd 2010
    @johnjones - I agreed with some of what you say, but not all, in particular, Conner seems the decent chap, and I can't imagine he'd mind other FAs getting along with his stray.
    Life is so fun when there are FAs in it.
  3.  (7906.93)
    Regarding the recent comments about Alice...

    What's that scene in Watchmen? "I'm not in here with you. You're in here with me."

    Alice is the product of the post-Freakangel world. Her entire formative years have been in this new reality. Sure she doesn't have the Package. But she's killed Luke and came close to killing Connor (twice!) Why? Because while they've been sheltered at Whitechapel "remaking society" she's been out in the new world unprotected getting tough. I'm not sure the Freakangels aren't in big trouble if she finds out they ended the world.

    @Johnjones: "I don't know if chemistry is the right word, but perhaps, a congruence of personality"

    Nah, you had it right the first time. That scene was pure sex. Not all intimacy is physical. In fact, she also seems to have a bit of hate/love with Kirk (doesn't everyone?)
    • CommentAuthorBerserker
    • CommentTimeMar 22nd 2010
    @johnjones - I wasn't meaning that Mark and Luke were dealt with 'quickly' in that sense. I was just surprised to see them both put down ( at least, apparently ) in the space of two episodes.

    And I wasn't meaning to imply that the series was anywhere near over either - if anything, like you say, it's just gotten going. For all the reasons you mentioned - and then some. But I've been saying that for a while now over these threads.

    ( and pardons if you weren't specifically replying to me so much, it just seemed worded as a reply to my comment from page 3 of this thread... )

    ( and speaking of page 3 - there's still warning from my Avast! anti-virus clamoring about a threat being detected whenever I look at it. According to it the source is - which would make the source the 'Murder Death Kill' comment from Spenceball. )
    • CommentAuthormrjotz
    • CommentTimeMar 22nd 2010
    I love this comic, so very, very much.
    • CommentTimeMar 23rd 2010
    @johnjones - you da man!
    • CommentTimeMar 25th 2010
    Somebody's gonna get it.