Whitechapel - They came to save Hip Hop Part 4- Lordz of Brooklyn Thu, 23 May 2013 11:02:50 -0700 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/ Lussumo Vanilla 1.1.4 & Feed Publisher They came to save Hip Hop Part 4- Lordz of Brooklyn http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8025&Focus=230035#Comment_230035 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8025&Focus=230035#Comment_230035 Thu, 08 Apr 2010 13:06:33 -0700 arklight they came to save Hip- Hop Part 3- EVERLAST





THEY CAME TO SAVE HIP HOP PART 4:- LORDZ Of BROOKLYN (THE LORDZ)


You grow up in New York, Hip hop is just starting. It's everywhere
around you even if it's not on the TV or the Radio.

You're at the centre of it all, you're growing up
in Brooklyn. But you're not African American.
You're White working Class.No you're not The
Beastie Boys. They're white and middle class.

You're the LORDZ OF BROOKLYN

Here with the best opening 10 seconds
of a 1990s Hip hop video.Inspired by Quentin Tarantino
obviously..


Lordz of Brooklyn -"Saturday Night Fever"






Inspired by a meeting with Chuck D of Public Enemy
who suggested that they should form a Rap crew.
They went and did just that!

As with EVERLAST in the previous post, they
have also been steadily EVOLVING over the years
in music and outlook.They are now Also known as
THE LORDZ and recently put
out love poems to their borough Brooklyn like this...



The Lordz ft Everlast - "Brooklyn Way"





The Lordz did this short interview/history of the Lordz and
how they started, and where they are going.....






The Lordz -interview/History








Heri Mkocha

www.youtube.com/thearklight



That interview/history video thing above is cool, you do though get the
feeling that no matter how poor or working class, those guys parents
did a decent job of bringING them up and protected them from alot of bad stuff.

But what about the white kids who weren't protected from all that stuff,
who were at the sharp end of it all and grew up in New york like them
surrounded by Hip hop? This darkness would mask alot of the optimism
found in the Lordz. The dark, dark side of life. If that was you you'd probably be...


LA COKA NOSTRA...




They came to save Hip- Hop Part 6- LA COKA NOSTRA ]]> They came to save Hip Hop Part 4- Lordz of Brooklyn http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8025&Focus=230041#Comment_230041 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8025&Focus=230041#Comment_230041 Thu, 08 Apr 2010 13:26:32 -0700 Brendan McGinley Gangstagrass

They came not to save hip-hop,
but to cross-breed with it. ]]> They came to save Hip Hop Part 4- Lordz of Brooklyn http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8025&Focus=230043#Comment_230043 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8025&Focus=230043#Comment_230043 Thu, 08 Apr 2010 13:29:13 -0700 mister86 They came to save Hip Hop Part 4- Lordz of Brooklyn http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8025&Focus=230044#Comment_230044 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8025&Focus=230044#Comment_230044 Thu, 08 Apr 2010 13:30:22 -0700 Ariana They came to save Hip Hop Part 4- Lordz of Brooklyn http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8025&Focus=230046#Comment_230046 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8025&Focus=230046#Comment_230046 Thu, 08 Apr 2010 13:31:19 -0700 oldhat
EDIT: And now that I've listened to more I gotta say that while it SOUNDS nice, the lyrics are doing a good job of annoying me. Primarily when I pair them with the history behind the old bluegrass music they're looping. ]]> They came to save Hip Hop Part 4- Lordz of Brooklyn http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8025&Focus=230047#Comment_230047 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8025&Focus=230047#Comment_230047 Thu, 08 Apr 2010 13:33:16 -0700 arklight
Lots of these artists have put out tonnes of stuff.
I try to keep it to 4-5 songs to represent them in their
"totality". Which is hard.

Thanks for that Gangstagrass link, that's someone new to
add to my musical list. Still waiting for somebody to combine
J-Dilla beats with Folk music.No i'm serious! Like Dubstep, it
seems so obvious when the genre actually happens

Anyway , I didn't really think the people who really really hate Hip hop
would be interested in any of the Hip Hop threads and would just leave
them alone. ]]> They came to save Hip Hop Part 4- Lordz of Brooklyn http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8025&Focus=230074#Comment_230074 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8025&Focus=230074#Comment_230074 Thu, 08 Apr 2010 14:53:15 -0700 The_Toxo_Zombie
Only Hip-hop artist I really respect is Saul Williams. Although I'm told that Tupac is worth looking into.


Although Saul Williams is really a poet first and Hip-Hop artist second. Probably why his lyrics kick so much ass.
]]> They came to save Hip Hop Part 4- Lordz of Brooklyn http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8025&Focus=230082#Comment_230082 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8025&Focus=230082#Comment_230082 Thu, 08 Apr 2010 15:25:35 -0700 jpr
Saul Williams is more a poet than anything, which isn't to say he's not good. He's very, very good.


Aesop Rock, pre-Bazooka Tooth is good as well. His lyrics are some of the best, and he spits fast as hell.


Illogic is another rapper like Aesop, but he's more consistently good in all of his rap.


Tonedeff is more a punchline rapper than a poetic one, but he raps so fast...

Very few rappers I like. Those three, and the South African group Die Antwoord. ]]> They came to save Hip Hop Part 4- Lordz of Brooklyn http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8025&Focus=230184#Comment_230184 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8025&Focus=230184#Comment_230184 Fri, 09 Apr 2010 04:16:12 -0700 texture
Re. the poetry vs rap debate... why does there have to be a line? I'm not a fan of these divisive terms... but its only recently I've felt that I could call myself a 'rapper' per se. I don't battle, or write battle rhymes. I'm not American, let alone from NYC. I'm too young to remember much past The Daisy Age. I too am middle class (although not in a wacky, cartoonish, Dalai Lama-obsessed, proseletyzing cod-political way like late-period Beasties). So I guess what I'm asking is... what d'you reckon? Is what I do hip-hop? Am I a rapper? I'd be interested in opinions from the folk on this thread, particularly the fans of Saul and Aesop.

Apologies for the threadjacking people. ]]> They came to save Hip Hop Part 4- Lordz of Brooklyn http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8025&Focus=230272#Comment_230272 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8025&Focus=230272#Comment_230272 Fri, 09 Apr 2010 11:11:43 -0700 arklight
Saul williams is a bit of a legend, the proper living link
for the spoken word poetry scene and Hip Hop.
He's done alot of MCing in all it's forms and
the Drum N Bass Roni size boys.


As for Tupac...hmmm. Generally considered the
one who has mastered the Lament type of rap song.
When I say that I mean emotively,
not in documentary style like other MCS.


He is unusual in being able to show alot of vulnerability in
the west coast genre which has a lot of swagger,
bragging and outright showing no weakness.

This also means alot of his songs swing from your cut-out
and keep G funk west coast rap stuff. To songs like tearz.
which is about all the people he lost and him not
knowing his biological father and the paranioa of l
iving the life he led growing up...



Tupac -"So Many Tearz"




He's got a huge back catalogue. But really when
it comes to it I think I prefer Nas
out of all the rap legends.



Heri Mkocha

www.youtube.com/thearklight

Ps- saw the other threads deleted. intreasting
that the Lordz of brookyln survived,
instead of the others.... :-) .... ]]> They came to save Hip Hop Part 4- Lordz of Brooklyn http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8025&Focus=230314#Comment_230314 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8025&Focus=230314#Comment_230314 Fri, 09 Apr 2010 14:34:53 -0700 oldhat
Also, I agree with texture. I don't see why there has to be a line between rap and poetry. I'll give his link a listen when I get home. ]]> They came to save Hip Hop Part 4- Lordz of Brooklyn http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8025&Focus=230317#Comment_230317 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8025&Focus=230317#Comment_230317 Fri, 09 Apr 2010 14:41:51 -0700 The_Toxo_Zombie
Sounds like hip-hop to me. Not bad Hip-hop either. ]]> They came to save Hip Hop Part 4- Lordz of Brooklyn http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8025&Focus=230414#Comment_230414 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8025&Focus=230414#Comment_230414 Sat, 10 Apr 2010 08:55:59 -0700 texture They came to save Hip Hop Part 4- Lordz of Brooklyn http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8025&Focus=230430#Comment_230430 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8025&Focus=230430#Comment_230430 Sat, 10 Apr 2010 12:50:08 -0700 arklight @oldhat

Methinks because there's actual discussion going on in this one.


Odd. Because I thought the La Coka Nostra thread
might have bought up more discussion
because they went so far to the extreme,
way past anything they accuse Eminem of,
or Everlast's whole credible Rap Rock hybrid
might have some other counter claims.


The Lordz are the safest, most cushyy
out of all the acts.I like them just for being so damn honest
about who they are, where they come from and
don't try to be anything else, especially not the Beastie Boyz II.

By the way the individual threads from jay Electronic onwards in the music section of
Whitechapel were meant to highlight artists that had significant loyal fanbases
and support but did not appear on even the main Hip Hop sources of information.
trailblazers in their own personal niches.

@texture.....

Re. the poetry vs rap debate... why does there have to be a line?


There shouldn't be one. And MCs and Poets
genrally pretend to get along. But
MCs (not really the poets...) in private
always talk about the "flow", that unique thing
of rappers "locking into the music".
Which they have to do. Which sets them
apart from the poets.

There's alot of MC 101 beginner vids out there and
you see the happless wannabes not get it.

The other , again MC instigated accusation
is that the MCs are doing exactly what the
poets were doing and aren't doing now.
Which is address/represent the
social/philisophical/economic etc...
condition of life at the moment.

Alot of MCs garner alot of
authenticity by talking about excatly
what they experienced, while Poetry seems
a bit dusty....cornered in academia.
(yes I know there are exceptions...don't
shoot the messenger).

There is also such a huge variety of MCs
in all varietys, that the "body of work" of Hip Hop
is diverse and rich in a way some think Poetry isn't.

Which is starting to annoy me as i write because
some of those diverse MCs threads got deleted....
but whatever.


Heri Mkocha

www.youtube.com/thearklight ]]>