Whitechapel - Hickman & Weaver's SHIELD Fri, 24 May 2013 01:37:10 -0700 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/ Lussumo Vanilla 1.1.4 & Feed Publisher Hickman & Weaver's SHIELD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=230919#Comment_230919 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=230919#Comment_230919 Tue, 13 Apr 2010 16:43:47 -0700 warrenellis






]]> Hickman & Weaver's SHIELD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=230922#Comment_230922 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=230922#Comment_230922 Tue, 13 Apr 2010 17:02:25 -0700 helloMuller And the logo isn't bad either :P ]]> Hickman & Weaver's SHIELD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=230931#Comment_230931 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=230931#Comment_230931 Tue, 13 Apr 2010 17:40:32 -0700 Brandon Seifert
Still, pretty art, pretty ideas — and Hickman's writing has impressed me elsewhere. I'll definitely keep reading.

And man. That Dustin Weaver. It's nice to see someone from Alaska making it big in comics — there aren't that many of us about, on the creative end of things anyway. ]]> Hickman & Weaver's SHIELD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=230932#Comment_230932 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=230932#Comment_230932 Tue, 13 Apr 2010 17:43:42 -0700 Paul Sizer I will agree also that this gives me the same sense of connection with a universe I thought I knew as the first issue of PLANETARY did. ]]> Hickman & Weaver's SHIELD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=230936#Comment_230936 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=230936#Comment_230936 Tue, 13 Apr 2010 18:25:18 -0700 Twobyfour Hickman & Weaver's SHIELD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=230939#Comment_230939 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=230939#Comment_230939 Tue, 13 Apr 2010 18:45:09 -0700 lemmycaution
I cannot remember the last time I gave a shit about the Celestials, but as soon as I flipped the page I almost shouted out OH MY GOD fucking Celestial!!

But if issue two has Da Vinci punching the Watcher in the face, I fucking walk. ]]> Hickman & Weaver's SHIELD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=230942#Comment_230942 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=230942#Comment_230942 Tue, 13 Apr 2010 18:53:59 -0700 warrenellis I'm really blown away by the art and some of the concepts in it. Unfortunately, I felt like that was all there really was in the first issue. I didn't feel like there was much in the way of characters or plot.

Fuck me, were you only really blown away by the art and concepts? Is that all? I can clearly see why you wanted more fully-explored characters and a complete plot, if all the rest of it did was really blow you away... ]]> Hickman & Weaver's SHIELD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=230961#Comment_230961 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=230961#Comment_230961 Tue, 13 Apr 2010 19:48:17 -0700 LokiZero Hickman & Weaver's SHIELD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=230965#Comment_230965 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=230965#Comment_230965 Tue, 13 Apr 2010 20:12:27 -0700 Pablo
I understand Hickman's conceived it as a finite series, with a planned ending in mind. I just hope sales support it enough that he can reach that destination as he intends to. ]]> Hickman & Weaver's SHIELD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=230966#Comment_230966 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=230966#Comment_230966 Tue, 13 Apr 2010 20:15:41 -0700 Jon Wake
What did Hickman do before comics? ]]> Hickman & Weaver's SHIELD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=230968#Comment_230968 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=230968#Comment_230968 Tue, 13 Apr 2010 20:23:42 -0700 agentarsenic Hickman was a professional graphic artist before he got into comics, which explains his superior design sensibilities.
How he comes up with the stories he does - the world may never know. ]]> Hickman & Weaver's SHIELD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=230972#Comment_230972 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=230972#Comment_230972 Tue, 13 Apr 2010 20:34:55 -0700 chris g Hickman & Weaver's SHIELD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=230978#Comment_230978 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=230978#Comment_230978 Tue, 13 Apr 2010 21:22:38 -0700 Brandon Seifert Fuck me, were you only really blown away by the art and concepts? Is that all? I can clearly see why you wanted more fully-explored characters and a complete plot, if all the rest of it did was really blow you away...I feel like Hickman gave us a real shock & awe opening, at the expense of introducing the cast to a point where I could emotionally connect with any of them. The first issue felt, to me, like a summer blockbuster with some neat ideas and great visuals — but still a summer blockbuster.

BUT it's Hickman. I know he can deliver on the characters and plot, as well as the big clever ideas. I'm looking forward to the rest of the series, but there wasn't much in the first issue that stuck with me for very long, apart from the fact that it was very pretty, and OH LOOK, Galactus!

(As a testament to my reaction, the two books I bought last week were SHIELD and KING CITY. And by the weekend, although I could remember buying two comics, I couldn't for the life of me remember what the second one was. When I finally opened my bag and pulled them out, I was rather startled.) ]]> Hickman & Weaver's SHIELD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=230979#Comment_230979 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=230979#Comment_230979 Tue, 13 Apr 2010 21:29:28 -0700 SteadyUP Hickman & Weaver's SHIELD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=230980#Comment_230980 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=230980#Comment_230980 Tue, 13 Apr 2010 21:36:33 -0700 Brandon Seifert I've read some reviews that say there's too much to digest and it moves too fast, but I say "keep up, dorks".I felt like it was less a matter of "too much too fast" than a matter of breadth, but no depth. It touched on five discreet time periods in 34 pages, but I would've rather it had pared down to, say, three or four time periods and gone into more detail on some or all of them.

Someone up-thread compared it to PLANETARY, and I think what I responded to more favorably PLANETARY than I did in this issue was that PLANETARY always put a good balance on the plot, the concepts, and the characters — we got a little of each in every issue.

(Also, by the fourth time we got someone saying "This is not how the world ends" in the story — which was the fifth time I read it in the issue, since I'd read the title page — I went "I know already!") ]]> Hickman & Weaver's SHIELD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=230982#Comment_230982 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=230982#Comment_230982 Tue, 13 Apr 2010 22:10:45 -0700 ebullientsoul
Yep, it's good. I mean, it's great. Fuck. I mean, if like, creators (not just Mr. Hickman or Mr. Weaver, but creators generally) can see this, I feel like I should have something to say other than, man, I love the double page layouts and SHIELD has this sense about it, maybe it's from all the different incarnations of the s.h.i.e.l.d. (to differentiate between the fictional organization and the comic) bird on the armor of the different historical figures, or that the historical characters have a glint in their eye when they say "This is not how the world ends" or how comfortably mysterious the dad of the protagonist is that it feels EPIC. Should I? I'm impressed by the issue and I haven't read anything else by Mr. Hickman or Mr. Weaver than a couple issues of Secret Warriors.

That two page spread of Imnhotep standing on top of the pile of human and Brood bodies is wow. I am impressed by the composition and construction of the pages. Case in point: I didn't even notice the little squares on the top left of the panels on the image posted, and now that I noticed it, I like that little touch.

It feels like the start of a wild adventure. Count me in. ]]> Hickman & Weaver's SHIELD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=230983#Comment_230983 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=230983#Comment_230983 Tue, 13 Apr 2010 22:20:11 -0700 BryanRichmond
His Fantastic Four "Solve Everything" run looks seriously mental, and I'm definitely on board for this. ]]> Hickman & Weaver's SHIELD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=230984#Comment_230984 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=230984#Comment_230984 Tue, 13 Apr 2010 22:29:07 -0700 James Cunningham
I wonder if I can track down the B&W variant. That art looks simply phenomenal as-is. ]]> Hickman & Weaver's SHIELD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=230986#Comment_230986 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=230986#Comment_230986 Tue, 13 Apr 2010 22:49:39 -0700 Mitch Alexander Hickman & Weaver's SHIELD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=230987#Comment_230987 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=230987#Comment_230987 Tue, 13 Apr 2010 23:14:07 -0700 frequentcontributor
I've seen some complaints on CBR that it plays a bit loose with Marvel continuity (the Galactus appearance...), but I guess I don't care. Just call it an alternate universe and proceed with the mind blowing. ]]> Hickman & Weaver's SHIELD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=231000#Comment_231000 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=231000#Comment_231000 Wed, 14 Apr 2010 01:19:44 -0700 Brandon Seifert I agree that there was more skipping through time periods than getting to know the main character, but with as much madness as was packed in, I'm hooked.I've been thinking about this more, and I also feel like a couple of the scenes cannibalized each other.

We had two scenes of Famous European Scientists From History Inventing Things To Save The World With, and two scenes of Giant Robotic-Looking Aliens Juxtaposed With Gorgeous Historical City-Scapes, and in each case when I got to the second scene I found my interest waning — only to get grabbed again when SUDDENLY THERE ARE DUDES RUNNING ON THE CEILING SHOOTING GUNS THAT LOOK LIKE EXPLODED DIAGRAMS AT US OH MAN.

Still, I really like what this story does with Marvel history and continuity, and I like the idea of a secret order that's been saving the world for thousands of years, not using superpowers, but using human ingenuity, whether through the application of technology or the application of magic. ]]> Hickman & Weaver's SHIELD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=231008#Comment_231008 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=231008#Comment_231008 Wed, 14 Apr 2010 03:11:03 -0700 helloMuller Hickman was a professional graphic artist before he got into comics, which explains his superior design sensibilities.

Personally, I felt that his diagram at the end of the issue was a bit too much — too disjointed from the rest of the material. Its like walking through the Louvre admiring Delacroix followed by a room full of Muller-Brockman posters (Yes, I exaggerate but you get the idea). I do like the mix of bold sans serif type in the logo with the subtle handwritten notes on diagram though (not too sure on the necessity of his 'trademark' paint splatters) and I think that style (old/new) would be better suited for the book instead of his Nightly News style graphics.

I'll end my nagging now. ]]> Hickman & Weaver's SHIELD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=231010#Comment_231010 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=231010#Comment_231010 Wed, 14 Apr 2010 03:46:26 -0700 NickDonald
It's a damn good looking book and an intriguing enough set up to make me read the next issue. So, I'd say as far as first issues go: mission accomplished. ]]> Hickman & Weaver's SHIELD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=231049#Comment_231049 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=231049#Comment_231049 Wed, 14 Apr 2010 07:50:11 -0700 Mercer Finn Hickman & Weaver's SHIELD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=231052#Comment_231052 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=231052#Comment_231052 Wed, 14 Apr 2010 07:54:04 -0700 Rob Bass Hickman & Weaver's SHIELD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=231055#Comment_231055 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=231055#Comment_231055 Wed, 14 Apr 2010 08:17:17 -0700 costa_k
Also, where the fuck-ass has Dustin Weaver been all my life? ]]> Hickman & Weaver's SHIELD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=231063#Comment_231063 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=231063#Comment_231063 Wed, 14 Apr 2010 09:33:44 -0700 SteadyUP Hickman & Weaver's SHIELD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=231069#Comment_231069 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=231069#Comment_231069 Wed, 14 Apr 2010 09:55:27 -0700 Pablo "This is not how the world ends" of course raises the question, 'how does it end?' For my money, that's the key to it. As with every other well written story: hook the reader, then develop the details. It might turn out to be rubbish in the long run, but it's a very strong start.
Yeah, I took that to mean that the Shield/SHIELD people (and presumably HYDRA, or the organization that would eventually become HYDRA, which I assume the Chinese guys who talk to the Celestial woman are part of) are in fact aware of how the end of the world will go down, which fuels their confidence in their endeavors. It's not meant to happen like this, so we know we'll be victorious today. ]]> Hickman & Weaver's SHIELD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=231072#Comment_231072 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=231072#Comment_231072 Wed, 14 Apr 2010 10:32:29 -0700 D- Hickman & Weaver's SHIELD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=231074#Comment_231074 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=231074#Comment_231074 Wed, 14 Apr 2010 10:34:05 -0700 JJH Hickman & Weaver's SHIELD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=231083#Comment_231083 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=231083#Comment_231083 Wed, 14 Apr 2010 11:11:47 -0700 shining_lion Hickman & Weaver's SHIELD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=231096#Comment_231096 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=231096#Comment_231096 Wed, 14 Apr 2010 11:40:29 -0700 costa_k
I've just randomly started responding to stuff with "Don't worry, this is not how the world ends!" a lot. ]]> Hickman & Weaver's SHIELD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=231121#Comment_231121 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=231121#Comment_231121 Wed, 14 Apr 2010 13:26:59 -0700 icelandbob
Looks like a trip to the LCS is needed..... ]]> Hickman & Weaver's SHIELD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=231127#Comment_231127 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=231127#Comment_231127 Wed, 14 Apr 2010 13:48:42 -0700 jimmyjungle Just relax and enjoy the brilliance. ]]> Hickman & Weaver's SHIELD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=231143#Comment_231143 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=231143#Comment_231143 Wed, 14 Apr 2010 14:30:54 -0700 coffeemug
And from what I've read from Secret Warriors, Hickman certainly knows how to write his secret societies, so I'm having a bit of faith here. ]]> Hickman & Weaver's SHIELD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=231154#Comment_231154 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=231154#Comment_231154 Wed, 14 Apr 2010 15:22:03 -0700 alveright Seriously? C'mon, as a confirmed fan of Ellis, Ennis, Hickman, Moore, and Morrison, you've got to know better than that.

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The single itself was a fantastic first chapter, and it'll be interesting to see how Hickman and Weaver explore the architectural skeleton of the Marvel Universe. Haven't fully processed it yet, as you might be able to tell. ]]> Hickman & Weaver's SHIELD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=231159#Comment_231159 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=231159#Comment_231159 Wed, 14 Apr 2010 15:51:06 -0700 Brandon Seifert I dunno about the rest of you but i'm sick of critical thinking,switched-on folk KNOW that hickman ,morrison ,moore ,ellis and a few others always produce genius work or near enough and any opinions to the contrary might as well be farts.Uh...

... Okay. ]]> Hickman & Weaver's SHIELD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=231166#Comment_231166 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=231166#Comment_231166 Wed, 14 Apr 2010 16:15:57 -0700 Prof Structure Hickman & Weaver's SHIELD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=231174#Comment_231174 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=231174#Comment_231174 Wed, 14 Apr 2010 16:42:06 -0700 Jonathan Hickman It's not often you'll catch me making special pleading for a Marvel comic. But just fucking look at this. From the b/w variant edition of Jonathan Hickman and Dustin Weaver's wonderfully mad and expansively beautiful first issue of SHIELD:

Thanks, boss. ]]> Hickman & Weaver's SHIELD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=231180#Comment_231180 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=231180#Comment_231180 Wed, 14 Apr 2010 17:54:28 -0700 Tetsuonum41 the night machine appeared, great fucking page in a book with many. While reading I absolutely nerded out when I realized it was
Apocalypse
standing behind Imohotep. I sincerely hope everyone listens to Warren's plead, as it would be a shame for this title to see a premature end. Kudos Misters Hickman and Weaver, I believe you've kicked the door wide open with this one. ]]> Hickman & Weaver's SHIELD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=231184#Comment_231184 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=231184#Comment_231184 Wed, 14 Apr 2010 18:41:59 -0700 Pablo Hickman & Weaver's SHIELD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=231208#Comment_231208 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=231208#Comment_231208 Thu, 15 Apr 2010 00:31:33 -0700 sneak046 Hickman & Weaver's SHIELD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=231353#Comment_231353 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=231353#Comment_231353 Thu, 15 Apr 2010 11:48:05 -0700 JJH Hickman & Weaver's SHIELD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=231444#Comment_231444 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=231444#Comment_231444 Thu, 15 Apr 2010 16:32:19 -0700 joe.distort
ive said it before on NEW COMICS threads, but hickman brings the crazy/smart. ]]> Hickman & Weaver's SHIELD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=231446#Comment_231446 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=231446#Comment_231446 Thu, 15 Apr 2010 16:39:39 -0700 jimmyjungle it's not schoolwork is all i'm saying.it's wonderful stories,so try to lean towards enjoying the thing.
going over it all with a fine toothed comb's daft. ]]> Hickman & Weaver's SHIELD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=231465#Comment_231465 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=231465#Comment_231465 Thu, 15 Apr 2010 17:57:41 -0700 mjmartinejohn
It's fun, accessible, and well thought out. Taking some cool bitches out of history and plunking them into a secret society.

Only quibble was those damn big metal helmets that the board was wearing. Do they have antigrav metal in the marvel universe? ]]> Hickman & Weaver's SHIELD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=231485#Comment_231485 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=231485#Comment_231485 Thu, 15 Apr 2010 19:49:42 -0700 Brandon Seifert yeah i was a bit blunt.That's not really the word I would use. About you, or anyone else who demands people stop thinking critically about... well, anything.
going over it all with a fine toothed comb's daft.
And turning off your brain while you read something isn't?

The entertainment we consume has an effect on us. Sometimes it effects us positively. Sometimes it doesn't. I don't see anything wrong with taking a step back and analyzing what it was about a work that we reacted to, and why — as long as doing so doesn't get in the way of us enjoying it.

Which it doesn't, for me. ]]> Hickman & Weaver's SHIELD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=231486#Comment_231486 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=231486#Comment_231486 Thu, 15 Apr 2010 19:50:38 -0700 Brandon Seifert There's a second person in that line up too... He likes the moonAhhh. I was wondering who that was.

Any idea who the other guy with his face wrapped up was? Standing next to... the big guy with blue lips? ]]> Hickman & Weaver's SHIELD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=232786#Comment_232786 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=232786#Comment_232786 Wed, 21 Apr 2010 00:46:26 -0700 ALE concept, first and foremost, which shouldn't surprise people who know Hickman's work. The characters will come, patience grasshoppers. ]]> Hickman & Weaver's SHIELD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=236405#Comment_236405 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=236405#Comment_236405 Thu, 06 May 2010 09:31:46 -0700 fod_xp
Then I saw the art....needless to say, if Leonardo DaVinci looked like that, I would totally give him the job many refer to as "blow."

*got a little Hedwig in me today* ]]> Hickman & Weaver's SHIELD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=236437#Comment_236437 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=236437#Comment_236437 Thu, 06 May 2010 10:43:52 -0700 SteadyUP Shameless self-promotion. ]]> Hickman & Weaver's SHIELD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=237116#Comment_237116 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=237116#Comment_237116 Fri, 07 May 2010 15:11:38 -0700 fod_xp Hickman & Weaver's SHIELD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=237236#Comment_237236 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=237236#Comment_237236 Sat, 08 May 2010 19:50:41 -0700 Greasemonkey Hickman & Weaver's SHIELD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=237341#Comment_237341 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=237341#Comment_237341 Sun, 09 May 2010 12:58:38 -0700 SteadyUP Hickman & Weaver's SHIELD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=237542#Comment_237542 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=237542#Comment_237542 Mon, 10 May 2010 14:24:59 -0700 fod_xp Hickman & Weaver's SHIELD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=245322#Comment_245322 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=245322#Comment_245322 Wed, 16 Jun 2010 14:05:43 -0700 Brandon Seifert has completely nailed my feelings about this book.

"It’s… If I’m being honest, it’s a book I respect rather than actually enjoy. It’s ambitious, it’s boldly oblivious to commercial considerations, and it’s seemingly trying to combine the Illuminati conspiracy with the mind-expanding weirdness of Silver Age superhero comics. If I’m pushed as to why it doesn’t particularly grab me, I suppose it comes down to a lack of clearly defined characters; it’s a book of ideas rather than people, which would normally be fine for me, except that they’re rather New Age-y ideas. It’s certainly not a bad comic and I’m glad to see something like this getting a shot from Marvel at all, but it doesn’t actually entertain me very much." ]]> Hickman & Weaver's SHIELD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=254061#Comment_254061 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=254061#Comment_254061 Mon, 09 Aug 2010 01:56:19 -0700 SunSongsSideB ... it’s a book of ideas rather than people, which would normally be fine for me...
I tend to agree. But I'm in for the long haul to see where it goes. Some of my favorite books are 22 pgs of grossly mind-bending ideas. Morrison's Invisibles and Ellis's current Supergods are more grand form concepts than about characters. And that's just fine. On the opposite end you have solid character development as the support beam for seemingly redundant ideas such as Kirkman's Invincible and The Walking Dead Those are great books as well. Hickman is doing great work over at Marvel. He's placed Nick Fury in an ongoing comic that is actually selling well. I don't like his FF. But I don't like the FF... Almost impossible to get me to care about them in any book.

So I say, bring me more of this secret history of the Marvel Universe. They had me hooked when they showed Apocalypse as one of the first members of the S.H.I.E.L.D. But I love secret history-type sciencey, mysticismy, stuff.

The S.H.I.E.L.D. does remind me of another diminutively popular comic scribe's work on the secret history of the Wildstorm universe. Now that book has the science, the grand ideas and great character development. Elijah Snow is one of the coolest character in comics, figuratively and literally. And I felt Ellis really developed John Stone into the perfect blend of James Bond and Nick Fury. Now he may descend upon me from the 'net and tell me what for... But that's my 2 pence. ]]> Hickman & Weaver's SHIELD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=254351#Comment_254351 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=254351#Comment_254351 Tue, 10 Aug 2010 13:21:14 -0700 bumnote If I’m pushed as to why it doesn’t particularly grab me, I suppose it comes down to a lack of clearly defined characters

i'm hoping that's an intention of the writer. i mean, the way i see it mister hickman has 'laid his stall out' with the idea of the story, and the characters will hopefully develope as the story progresses. i like uncertainty of storytelling that keeps me guessing. good work mister hickman, your comic made my head smile ]]> Hickman & Weaver's SHIELD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=254360#Comment_254360 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=254360#Comment_254360 Tue, 10 Aug 2010 14:09:22 -0700 James Cunningham Hickman & Weaver's SHIELD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=257932#Comment_257932 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=257932#Comment_257932 Mon, 30 Aug 2010 09:25:57 -0700 JJH I like i, so I'm sticking around. Plus, I love Secret Warriors ]]> Hickman & Weaver's SHIELD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=259330#Comment_259330 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=259330#Comment_259330 Mon, 06 Sep 2010 18:19:26 -0700 scs run now to your shop and pick up "Pax Romana." At one time Hickman said he'd be writing more in that series, but I'm assuming his work on S.H.I.E.L.D. is absorbing any follow-on ideas he had for PR. ]]> Hickman & Weaver's SHIELD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=259333#Comment_259333 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=259333#Comment_259333 Mon, 06 Sep 2010 18:29:16 -0700 scs Hickman & Weaver's SHIELD http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=276777#Comment_276777 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8049&Focus=276777#Comment_276777 Mon, 03 Jan 2011 08:25:14 -0800 Casey Moore
And damn, the series already needs annotations and has me going to look up more about the characters.

And the art is just gorgeous. ]]>