Whitechapel - FREAKANGELS Episode 0095 2013-05-24T01:37:34-07:00 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/ Lussumo Vanilla & Feed Publisher FREAKANGELS Episode 0095 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8150&Focus=234939#Comment_234939 2010-04-30T04:03:29-07:00 2013-05-24T01:37:34-07:00 Ariana http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1 It's Friday, let's have a bit of FREAKANGELS, then. Good morning, Whitechapel. I'm so not having good brain words typing awakeness now need more red bull yuss. Say hello, how ya been. FREAKANGELS, then.

Good morning, Whitechapel. I'm so not having good brain words typing awakeness now need more red bull yuss. Say hello, how ya been.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0095 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8150&Focus=234942#Comment_234942 2010-04-30T04:18:06-07:00 2013-05-24T01:37:34-07:00 rjphillips http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5132 last page did it for me - FREAKSLAP!! FREAKANGELS Episode 0095 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8150&Focus=234943#Comment_234943 2010-04-30T04:18:42-07:00 2013-05-24T01:37:34-07:00 Doctor_Six http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5028 Connor's off, then? FREAKANGELS Episode 0095 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8150&Focus=234944#Comment_234944 2010-04-30T04:19:57-07:00 2013-05-24T01:37:34-07:00 Nicodemus_Cain http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3190 Lovely work on the facial expressions for the final page. Also, gotta agree with Alice on wondering how they survived past the age of 8.
Also, gotta agree with Alice on wondering how they survived past the age of 8.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0095 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8150&Focus=234947#Comment_234947 2010-04-30T04:36:57-07:00 2013-05-24T01:37:34-07:00 Twist http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4276 Oh yessssss. Last page is great. Weeks been good. Enjoying the work, found out today that there's possibility of it becoming a permanent thing. Trying not to get my hopes up as it relies on a ...
Weeks been good. Enjoying the work, found out today that there's possibility of it becoming a permanent thing. Trying not to get my hopes up as it relies on a contract they have won the tender for yet, but still...]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0095 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8150&Focus=234948#Comment_234948 2010-04-30T04:43:20-07:00 2013-05-24T01:37:34-07:00 staticgirl http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=8537 Hello! oooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooo Connor leaving? Does he have a Freakangels field bag? Slaps! Cool.
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Connor leaving? Does he have a Freakangels field bag?
Slaps! Cool.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0095 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8150&Focus=234949#Comment_234949 2010-04-30T04:48:24-07:00 2013-05-24T01:37:34-07:00 jones? http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5390 Ouch! Oh Jack, you should have seen that one coming. FREAKANGELS Episode 0095 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8150&Focus=234950#Comment_234950 2010-04-30T04:50:33-07:00 2013-05-24T01:37:34-07:00 moali http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1430 hello, not bad. you? not bad. you?]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0095 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8150&Focus=234951#Comment_234951 2010-04-30T04:53:18-07:00 2013-05-24T01:37:34-07:00 taphead http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2284 Pennies are dropping, lovely! Life's been busy-good. The record's been getting some nice buzz, I'm currently mixing a mate's black metal album and oh hey, it's DRUNKEN FINLAND DAY. I expect ...
Life's been busy-good. The record's been getting some nice buzz, I'm currently mixing a mate's black metal album and oh hey, it's DRUNKEN FINLAND DAY. I expect tonight's soudtrack will be champagne bottles popping.

Have a good one, Whitechapel. You're the best.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0095 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8150&Focus=234953#Comment_234953 2010-04-30T05:00:33-07:00 2013-05-24T01:37:34-07:00 Dee_Noir http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5888 Don't see what Jack did to deserve that. It was a neccessary evil... putting Luke out of his misery was a kindness. They've all seem to forgotten that it was Alice who actually mortally wounded Luke. ...
I guess this volume will end with Connor putting on his backpack and walking off into the sunset. And frankly, who can blame him?]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0095 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8150&Focus=234955#Comment_234955 2010-04-30T05:15:34-07:00 2013-05-24T01:37:34-07:00 thud http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=7510 0095: Drama ! Why slap Jack when there is so much more in FA to use? Was this for new girl to see? Connor is probably fed up with all of them, including Alice. -But going on a walkabout? On ... Was this for new girl to see?
Connor is probably fed up with all of them, including Alice. -But going on a walkabout?

On the home front this morning, my new telescope (a 6" f/10 Dobson reflector) that I ground and polished the mirror and built the rest from scratch passed its star tests with high honors! The images are tack-sharp and with such detail that makes the simple pleasure of looking an adventure of discovery.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0095 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8150&Focus=234957#Comment_234957 2010-04-30T05:31:14-07:00 2013-05-24T01:37:34-07:00 curb http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1334 That look on Sirkka's face on the second to last panel is just heartbreaking. Butbutbut more importantly - what's up with Connor? If he really is leaving, it better be for a good reason - this is no ...
All good here thanks, work has been a ballache but I saw the awesome CRIPPLED BLACK PHOENIX on Monday - their prog powers have sustained me throughout the week. Listen to them if you like music that makes you feel like you are travelling through time and space!]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0095 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8150&Focus=234958#Comment_234958 2010-04-30T05:45:53-07:00 2013-05-24T01:37:34-07:00 Kradlum http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3664 Yeah, I don't think Jack can be blamed for Luke's death. Alice did it in self defence. Hopefully it will all come out in the wash before Kait roughs him up too much. Pre-ordered my signed HC of ...
Pre-ordered my signed HC of the next volume of FA from my LCS this week!]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0095 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8150&Focus=234962#Comment_234962 2010-04-30T06:08:43-07:00 2013-05-24T01:37:34-07:00 krel http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=8533 Can't blame Connor for wanting to leave. Seeing the bags on the bed made me sad for him. I want to know how they made it this long, too. Every one of them is dysfunctional in their own way, but they ...
The birds woke me up at the butt crack of 3:30, with their chirping. I feel like someone ran over me and drilled a hole in my head, ate my brains and then puked them back up again and taped my head back together again. Otherwise, it looks to be a promising day!

Have a lovely weekend, beautiful freaks.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0095 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8150&Focus=234964#Comment_234964 2010-04-30T06:17:21-07:00 2013-05-24T01:37:34-07:00 longtimelurker http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=7739 A brilliant cliffhanger. FREAKANGELS Episode 0095 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8150&Focus=234971#Comment_234971 2010-04-30T06:26:36-07:00 2013-05-24T01:37:34-07:00 taphead http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2284 Eh. you shoot your brother in the head, you deserve a slap. FREAKANGELS Episode 0095 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8150&Focus=234974#Comment_234974 2010-04-30T07:06:46-07:00 2013-05-24T01:37:34-07:00 arf http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=6120 I'd like to hear Connor's view of the story. The boys and girls certainly do have a communication problem. It probably comes from being able to lift knowledge from other peoples' brains instead of ...
The boys and girls certainly do have a communication problem. It probably comes from being able to lift knowledge from other peoples' brains instead of having to negotiate for it.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0095 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8150&Focus=234975#Comment_234975 2010-04-30T07:18:31-07:00 2013-05-24T01:37:34-07:00 twitch_ramirez http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2478 WOW, looks like a major turning point is here. Warren's writing took a major turn towards a darker reality than we have seen so far. Paul, not sure what you guys did but this Episode took on a much ...
A WEEK AGO I THOUGHT YOU PEOPLE WERE FOOKING WIZARDS OR SUMMAT.
TODAY I WONDER HOW YOU LIVED PAST THE AGE OF EIGHT.

Had the biopsy on Wednesday. No real damage to the lung but hurt pretty good and I am still sore. I await the results; should be sometime today when I hear.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0095 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8150&Focus=234978#Comment_234978 2010-04-30T07:44:43-07:00 2013-05-24T01:37:34-07:00 Professor Imagine http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4110 yeah, ditto on the general consensus: sirkka's twisted-up emotional face really said it all (with some help from her standing defiantly in the middle of the road). Great job all around, as usual. ... FREAKANGELS Episode 0095 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8150&Focus=234986#Comment_234986 2010-04-30T08:46:25-07:00 2013-05-24T01:37:34-07:00 TAL http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=8643 And so it goes. Now things will get sad and bad. It's almost like someone is setting things up for the end of the book. It's almost like someone is setting things up for the end of the book.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0095 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8150&Focus=234992#Comment_234992 2010-04-30T09:17:24-07:00 2013-05-24T01:37:34-07:00 johnjones http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1052 I don't know that the book will be ending soon, but it will be changing soon. I'm thinking we'll see Alice, Conner and Jack (with perhaps Arkady and another 'angel) leaving Whitechapel and exploring ... FREAKANGELS Episode 0095 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8150&Focus=234995#Comment_234995 2010-04-30T09:23:47-07:00 2013-05-24T01:37:34-07:00 longtimelurker http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=7739 I don't know about the others, but I will lay money Alice is not going anywhere. FREAKANGELS Episode 0095 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8150&Focus=234996#Comment_234996 2010-04-30T09:28:18-07:00 2013-05-24T01:37:34-07:00 Indigo Rose http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4487 Brilliant, as always. Thank you. Random thought that has no basis in anything, just a what if that popped into my head. I don't think it's accurate or anything but... What if Mark just needed a ...
Random thought that has no basis in anything, just a what if that popped into my head. I don't think it's accurate or anything but...
What if Mark just needed a new body... Connor's?]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0095 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8150&Focus=235006#Comment_235006 2010-04-30T09:58:53-07:00 2013-05-24T01:37:34-07:00 Berserker http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=41 The idea occurred to me that perhaps Conner is packing things for Jack? He would have to assume he'll be leaving soon, I'd guess. ( I do agree though, it looks more like he's leaving off on his ...
( I do agree though, it looks more like he's leaving off on his own. To quote a wise man: "That boy ain't right." )]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0095 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8150&Focus=235037#Comment_235037 2010-04-30T11:12:34-07:00 2013-05-24T01:37:34-07:00 stsparky http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2311 Why is Connor bailing? Is Luke piggybacking on our gloomy friend? FREAKANGELS Episode 0095 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8150&Focus=235040#Comment_235040 2010-04-30T11:35:49-07:00 2013-05-24T01:37:34-07:00 rickiep00h http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2930 Maybe he's just had enough of the bullshit? Connor was always the sensitive one, and now things are about to get much worse. Not to diminish his role, but he seems much like a child caught in the ...
Maybe he thinks Mark will be re-introduced to the group, and he's not willing to be part of that?

Maybe he's just going camping for a long, long time.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0095 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8150&Focus=235047#Comment_235047 2010-04-30T12:00:54-07:00 2013-05-24T01:37:34-07:00 diello http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3575 I wouldn't have needed The Package to have seen that slap coming. My favourite page was with Connor, leaning in the doorway in disgust and brooding out. I wonder if he's going to flip out on 'Kady ... My favourite page was with Connor, leaning in the doorway in disgust and brooding out. I wonder if he's going to flip out on 'Kady when she pops by.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0095 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8150&Focus=235049#Comment_235049 2010-04-30T12:06:24-07:00 2013-05-24T01:37:34-07:00 Masterful Eyes http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5379 This episode sorta a bit make me mad. We haven't seen Connor in a while. And you foreshadow maybe the thought that he's leaving. Yes maybe he's had enough crap going on. But there was never enough to ... FREAKANGELS Episode 0095 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8150&Focus=235050#Comment_235050 2010-04-30T12:07:31-07:00 2013-05-24T01:37:34-07:00 Masterful Eyes http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5379 It feels like a cop-out. Like a way to further more distance a character we haven't seen in like ages. FREAKANGELS Episode 0095 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8150&Focus=235051#Comment_235051 2010-04-30T12:10:14-07:00 2010-04-30T12:10:24-07:00 alan http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1505 The boys and girls certainly do have a communication problem. It probably comes from being able to lift knowledge from other peoples' brains instead of having to negotiate for it. There's another ... The boys and girls certainly do have a communication problem. It probably comes from being able to lift knowledge from other peoples' brains instead of having to negotiate for it.
There's another super power that might be impacting their ability to communicate. They're all 21.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0095 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8150&Focus=235056#Comment_235056 2010-04-30T12:17:19-07:00 2013-05-24T01:37:34-07:00 warrenellis http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2 This episode sorta a bit make me mad. We haven't seen Connor in a while. Quite deliberately. And you foreshadow maybe the thought that he's leaving. Yes maybe he's had enough crap going on. But ... This episode sorta a bit make me mad. We haven't seen Connor in a while.

Quite deliberately.

And you foreshadow maybe the thought that he's leaving. Yes maybe he's had enough crap going on. But there was never enough to see it at that point.

We were looking elsewhere. This isn't the end of the story. Yet.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0095 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8150&Focus=235062#Comment_235062 2010-04-30T12:39:05-07:00 2013-05-24T01:37:34-07:00 Masterful Eyes http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5379 I understand may not be the ending. But, I don't think....for me...I just didn't see Connor as the type up and leave. Maybe whine and bitch about it, but not just leave. I can see KK doing so. But ...
I can see KK doing so. But Connor...it just feels odd. I'm not getting something. It feels like there is a piece of the puzzle is missing. That just tangles more questions on the questions we already have.

What a web. And it makes me mad, lol.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0095 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8150&Focus=235069#Comment_235069 2010-04-30T12:53:51-07:00 2013-05-24T01:37:34-07:00 warrenellis http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2 It feels like there is a piece of the puzzle is missing. Yeah. We were looking elsewhere at the time. It feels like there is a piece of the puzzle is missing.

Yeah. We were looking elsewhere at the time.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0095 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8150&Focus=235070#Comment_235070 2010-04-30T12:54:15-07:00 2013-05-24T01:37:34-07:00 Adam Lucas http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2623 So wait... did i miss something? Why did they kill Luke? FREAKANGELS Episode 0095 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8150&Focus=235074#Comment_235074 2010-04-30T12:56:53-07:00 2013-05-24T01:37:34-07:00 warrenellis http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2 oh dear god FREAKANGELS Episode 0095 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8150&Focus=235083#Comment_235083 2010-04-30T13:13:51-07:00 2013-05-24T01:37:34-07:00 longtimelurker http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=7739 @Adam Lucas Did you seriously just ask the author that question? Look, go back and re-read the last few episodes. Jack explained his actions to Kait, and Caz explained it again. Obviously a ...
Did you seriously just ask the author that question? Look, go back and re-read the last few episodes. Jack explained his actions to Kait, and Caz explained it again. Obviously a few of the other FA's don't agree with what he did, and the others might not even have had enough time to process how they feel about it, but there's no question as to why he did it.

If you're looking for a reason behind the reason... well, that's what makes the story open to interpretation. You might as well ask why Hamlet killed Polonius! Look at the evidence, look at what we know about Jack and how he feels, and form your own conclusion.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0095 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8150&Focus=235087#Comment_235087 2010-04-30T13:21:35-07:00 2010-04-30T13:21:53-07:00 chris g http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1829 Hola, Ariana, hope you are doing gr8. I are having a big-ass red bull nao to prevent zombification. Rly dug the pimp slap at the end of this ep! FREAKANGELS Episode 0095 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8150&Focus=235092#Comment_235092 2010-04-30T13:46:13-07:00 2013-05-24T01:37:34-07:00 Adam Lucas http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2623 Yeah I'm out of it... I thought Mark had triggered Alice once he returned and that he had regained control over her. I thought she was just shooting at the nearest angel. Which happened to be Luke. I ... FREAKANGELS Episode 0095 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8150&Focus=235098#Comment_235098 2010-04-30T14:05:00-07:00 2013-05-24T01:37:34-07:00 Dee_Noir http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5888 @ Adam - You're clearly not reading the same FAs as the rest of us. FREAKANGELS Episode 0095 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8150&Focus=235100#Comment_235100 2010-04-30T14:10:32-07:00 2013-05-24T01:37:34-07:00 longtimelurker http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=7739 @Adam Lucas It's an interesting theory, and certainly worth considering, but again, the way this works is you need to come up with the theory first and then look for evidence that supports it. ...
It's an interesting theory, and certainly worth considering, but again, the way this works is you need to come up with the theory first and then look for evidence that supports it. The author will put twists and turns along the way, but any revelation will happen WITHIN the story itself. This forum is a reader-response area only. FREAKANGELS will stand on its own as a work, and any revelations and plot twists will always be spelled out within the work.

Now let's look at your theory. Let's say Mark has a deep command line in Alice. Karl suggested it was possible way back around episode 10, after all. This means he may be in partial control of her, or he may have left a dormant command line in place to activate later. So are her actions really her own? We've seen her ring the siren during various attacks and go out with her shotgun to protect Whitechapel, culminating in her shooting of Luke. Doesn't really sound like Mark's in command, does it? Not while he's been busy smuggling weapons in, leaving dead bodies laying around, and doing God knows what else. It's an unproven theory at best, without any supporting evidence, or even any convincing suppositional evidence. That leaves the most valid interpretation: she's in control of her own mind.

Remember also, she resisted Sirkka's attempt to control her back in episode 6, until KK made it two against one. She's a tough cookie. Mark controlling her long-distance, when he had a hard time standing up to Kaitlyn alone? Doesn't seem likely. On the other hand, her tracking Luke down and getting the drop on him fits with her own personality and with her stated desire to "not let him get away with it." And why would she stop with just shooting Luke if Mark were in command? Wouldn't she have shot Jack next? It doesn't add up.

Not that it's a bad theory, there just isn't the evidence to support it.

Now as to whether he'll take control of her in the future... scaaaaary thought.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0095 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8150&Focus=235101#Comment_235101 2010-04-30T14:11:30-07:00 2013-05-24T01:37:34-07:00 Adam Lucas http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2623 I KNOW WTF?! I'm going to go sit in the corner now.
I'm going to go sit in the corner now.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0095 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8150&Focus=235148#Comment_235148 2010-04-30T18:38:04-07:00 2013-05-24T01:37:34-07:00 Purple Wyrm http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=6726 And so the fallout hits. Poor Connor, looks like his fantasy of "a big happy family" has hit the wall pretty hard. Can't wait to see how Kait deals with Jack. And Kirk and Karl. And ...
Can't wait to see how Kait deals with Jack. And Kirk and Karl. And Mark. Girl's got a lot of work to do.

Was riding the rails until 1:30 this morning and was woken ridiculously early by that big yellow ball of flame poking its bastard head above the horizon. Red bull sounds like a seriously good idea. I'm hitting the fridge.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0095 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8150&Focus=235166#Comment_235166 2010-04-30T21:14:27-07:00 2010-04-30T22:34:30-07:00 NakedCelt http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=7835 Whoa. Luke's dead, Mark's catatonic, Kirk's in critical condition. Karl and Jack are OK health-wise, but all five of the aforementioned are now officially wanted criminals. Connor is the only ... Connor is the only remaining male FreakAngel who isn't due some time handcuffed in a pit or worse. And he's leaving.

Edit -- It gets worse; I just realized that of the five criminals, Luke is the only one who isn't a murderer. (Potentially. Depending on the legal status of Kirk, Karl, and Jack's acts under FreakAngels law.)]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0095 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8150&Focus=235182#Comment_235182 2010-04-30T23:39:31-07:00 2010-04-30T23:45:16-07:00 Val A Lindsay II http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1680 In regards to this week's episode; it's absolutely fantastic to see how the group collectively rebuilds something one minute and then be at complete odds the next. Ah, the human animal. It never ...
In regards to home life; it looks like I will be a Santa Fe, NM resident yet again. A job offer came my way and the money is too good to refuse. Ah well. I can live the good life in Santa Fe. I have friends, I will have money and can be creative. At least more creative than I have been. Sometimes the routine of life sucks it straight out of you. Santa Fe needs a Whitechapel representative, also. :)]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0095 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8150&Focus=235188#Comment_235188 2010-05-01T00:34:00-07:00 2010-05-01T00:36:25-07:00 Gekko http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3435 "Today I wonder how you lived past the age of eight." Is it me or the sentence has the meaning I think it has (or am i missing the pint again?) Hello Ariana, you're looking ... Is it me or the sentence has the meaning I think it has (or am i missing the pint again?)

Hello Ariana, you're looking good.

edit: Of course I meant to write point not pint but it tells a lot so I'll leave it like that)]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0095 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8150&Focus=235192#Comment_235192 2010-05-01T01:11:12-07:00 2013-05-24T01:37:34-07:00 SaiFai http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=6760 Well, I get what Alice means. They do seem to overreact on some bits. I was wondering why Jack said Luke was shooting at Alice and Him and that's why he killed Luke. From what I remember Kirk shoot ... FREAKANGELS Episode 0095 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8150&Focus=235199#Comment_235199 2010-05-01T04:58:38-07:00 2013-05-24T01:37:34-07:00 rickiep00h http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2930 ...under FreakAngels law.Not that there is any law to speak of. Kait pretty much keeps the peace, but so far as we can tell, aside from the Big Rule (using the package on people without their ... ...under FreakAngels law.Not that there is any law to speak of. Kait pretty much keeps the peace, but so far as we can tell, aside from the Big Rule (using the package on people without their consent--which is itself employed in some pretty gray situations), there isn't really a codified set of laws. Which is part of the problem in the current situation. With no governing laws and no precedent, it's going to be hard to come to a successful and just "verdict."]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0095 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8150&Focus=235222#Comment_235222 2010-05-01T09:07:52-07:00 2013-05-24T01:37:34-07:00 Adam Lucas http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2623 I'm with you SaiFai. I thought it pretty unprovoked. If that's your point. FREAKANGELS Episode 0095 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8150&Focus=235302#Comment_235302 2010-05-01T16:02:08-07:00 2013-05-24T01:37:34-07:00 NextThursday http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=8047 @SaiFai Well, Alice didn't really like how the FA handled Luke's rape of the girl whose mind he was controlling, if I remember correctly she saw Luke paralleling what Mark did to her when he took ...
Well, Alice didn't really like how the FA handled Luke's rape of the girl whose mind he was controlling, if I remember correctly she saw Luke paralleling what Mark did to her when he took over her mind and since she's the only non FA of the bunch, it seemed like she felt like she's acting as the girl's advocate (even though Sirkka "fixed her up". at least in Sirkka's eyes). So I can see where Alice would try to take out Luke (trashcan lid to the face? anyone? anyone?). Jack basically admitted to Alice during their "let's sit on Luke and guard him so the others can argue over his fate" session that he wasn't particularly comfortable with the way the rape was handled either and that Alice was there to make sure he didn't kill Luke as much as he was there to make sure Alice didn't kill Luke. So. Unresolved issues from both parties involved in Luke's murder/execution (ooph harsh term, not sure it applies).

Also, didn't Luke shoot at KK when all she was doing was following him in her bicopter? And she fell out of the sky and almost died? No one was shooting at him at that point as I remember. Besides Kirk who was already incapacitated.

Anyway, warm weather = yay! and it's supposed to be nice all week! Unfortunately my productivity level seems to (data still being processed) decrease exponentially as the weather improves. Ah well.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0095 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8150&Focus=235317#Comment_235317 2010-05-01T17:10:23-07:00 2013-05-24T01:37:34-07:00 jsmyth http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=8809 Hi. I'm new here, having come late to the party and spent much of the last 24 hours devouring episodes 1-95. I just wanted to stop in to say thank you to Warren and Paul, having now fallen in love ... 1. Lolcat references. I noticed that both of them were made by women, which took my mind immediately here, and that, coupled with the neat little nod to the medium of publication inherent in using an internet meme, took those moments from funny with a slight grin to funny with Cheshire cat toothiness and adamant head nodding (once my mind processed it all, that is).
2. I love that KK is a steam punk. This has made me giggle frequently.
3. I love Alice - I feel like she's speaking for me (audience) a lot of the time, and I loved that she called Sirkka on the mind-rape.
4. I'm fascinated by where the story might go if Connor does indeed leave - since that moment when we saw his job, I've kind of felt that he was the one transmitting the story to me. I like having to question that perception.
5. I'm guessing killing Luke was the thing Jack had to do to make Sirkka hate him and end it all, but I can't help thinking about how Kirk and Karl (another thing I love: alliterative k sounds in character names) thought they had killed Mark ("he registered as dead") and Arkady has had two "death" experiences. I find myself in the weird position of simultaneously hoping for and dreading the return of a serial rapist.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0095 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8150&Focus=235350#Comment_235350 2010-05-01T19:14:31-07:00 2013-05-24T01:37:34-07:00 NakedCelt http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=7835 Another realization. ...Did Kait just leave one of Mark's would-be murderers to stand guard over him?
...Did Kait just leave one of Mark's would-be murderers to stand guard over him?]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0095 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8150&Focus=235352#Comment_235352 2010-05-01T19:25:15-07:00 2013-05-24T01:37:34-07:00 thud http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=7510 In episode 0041 Luke is suspected of helping the outland people to invade White Chapel but nothing can be proved. But his references to Mark, and how he was right, plus what other hints he might have ... Not being in the actual position of a Freak Angel and knowing exactly how much someone like Jack might know and understand about Luke sort of hinders a reader.
We can't really know why Jack does that.
But the general bulk of the information points to Luke and Mark having the same attitude towards using non-FA's to their advantage, so I'm thinking that Jack did it to avoid having to do it later, when it might be much more difficult.
Luke was hiding much of what he could do.
His being alive was a threat.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0095 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8150&Focus=235393#Comment_235393 2010-05-01T22:25:45-07:00 2013-05-24T01:37:34-07:00 razrangel http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2075 It's interesting to me that Jack was doing what I hear guys frequently fantasize about - killing someone who (supposedly) needs killing. But the reason it's interesting is that a. I never see my guy ...
Furthermore, Sirkka very clearly doesn't buy that it was necessary, and she too has been willing to spill needed blood in defence of her home.


Connor, sweet boy. You pout so pretty. it's so hard when people won't stop, just stop. It's so hard when they won't listen, just listen.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0095 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8150&Focus=235660#Comment_235660 2010-05-03T06:10:08-07:00 2013-05-24T01:37:34-07:00 longtimelurker http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=7739 @ NakedCelt "...Did Kait just leave one of Mark's would-be murderers to stand guard over him?" As well as Caz who said it was a mistake letting him live! They'll behave around Miki ...
"...Did Kait just leave one of Mark's would-be murderers to stand guard over him?"

As well as Caz who said it was a mistake letting him live! They'll behave around Miki though.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0095 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8150&Focus=235674#Comment_235674 2010-05-03T07:23:26-07:00 2013-05-24T01:37:34-07:00 rickiep00h http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2930 It's interesting to me that Jack was doing what I hear guys frequently fantasize about - killing someone who (supposedly) needs killing. But the reason it's interesting is that a. I never see my guy ... It's interesting to me that Jack was doing what I hear guys frequently fantasize about - killing someone who (supposedly) needs killing. But the reason it's interesting is that a. I never see my guy friends do it despite us knowing girls who have been sexually victimized (folks, if one in four girls has been sexually assaulted then you know a girl who's been sexually assaulted, and therefore are highly likely to know a sexual aggressor)Not to distract from your point about sexual violence, but I don't think Jack is particularly thrilled about killing people, nor do I think he "fantasizes" about it, but he sees it as a necessary means to the end of continued survival of his tribe.

Nor do I think it's necessarily a gender issue. Is it a man's place to protect a woman from harm or exact revenge for her pain? Couldn't a woman do that just as well for herself? (Granted, maybe not Luke's last victim, being weakened/handicapped, but certainly any of the FA women would have no problem handling themselves.) I think it's less that Jack was acting from a position of retribution, rather one of preemptive defense. In fact, if I had pick somebody using the retribution angle, it would be Alice.

Luke had by this time proven himself unstable not only toward the women, but the tribe as a whole. While this may be a justification, it doesn't therefore make it "right." There could have been an attempt at rehabilitation, etc., but I think we've seen that Luke is a sociopathic fuckhead and has been for a very, very long time; maybe Jack simply gave up tolerating the actions of somebody who seemed so dead set against changing his ways.
Furthermore, Sirkka very clearly doesn't buy that it was necessary, and she too has been willing to spill needed blood in defense of her home.
This was a threat from within the tribe, thus making it much less clear-cut than a threat from outside. Us vs. Them, and all that.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0095 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8150&Focus=235794#Comment_235794 2010-05-03T15:11:21-07:00 2010-05-03T15:14:22-07:00 razrangel http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2075 @rickiep00h No, I wasn't saying that Jack fantasizes about it - men who've actually taken on fighting for people they love (soldiers, I mean, not guys who pick fights in bars) don't harbor many ...
What's interesting to me is the conversation over the necessary/righteousness of the action. Jack strives to be objective. He so far isn't casting it as right or wrong, making excuses or giving reasons. He did what he did and he'll takes his lumps for it. Period. As for other men that I've known in my life... I've known simply too many who swear they would take vengeance for the women they know who've been harmed... but uh, they never do. They don't even stop their bros from carrying on in the attitudes that continue to harm women. That's what's fascinating to me. Guys talk big.

As for it being a gender issue... that really starts to take it off the topic of FreakAngels. Women by and large don't swear to avenge victims (or themselves), Alice is of particular interest to me because she has a different attitude. But then, she's been "out there" beyond Whitechapel and therefore beyond the security of civilization. The 'Angels who are women have an interest in justice and are working to enforce it, some directly like Kait and some indirectly like Sirkka and Caz. Justice might be simply more ritualized and consistently applied revenge, but it's not "if I see that fucker again, he's going down!"

Yeah, it's definitely not clear cut. Hence just trying to hold Luke until they could get a full Freaktrial together. Reminds me of the original Greek reasons for a trial by one's peers.

I'm sorry I wasn't clear originally. I have a tendancy to comment on a meta-level of a subject, in this case, not just taking in the comic but the commentary and all my experiences that come to mind. I'll try to be more precise when noting what I'm drawing on in the future.

ETA: also my grammar sometimes gets sloppy and something might out differently from how I meant to say it.]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0095 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8150&Focus=235808#Comment_235808 2010-05-03T16:23:35-07:00 2013-05-24T01:37:34-07:00 rickiep00h http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2930 @razrangel - No, it's cool. You actually made me think about it in a way I hadn't, so it's all good. :-) FREAKANGELS Episode 0095 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8150&Focus=236167#Comment_236167 2010-05-05T06:25:12-07:00 2013-05-24T01:37:34-07:00 thud http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=7510 We have yet to see if the central region of his brain has regenerated and he has escaped. All arguments and apologies at this point could be moot. All arguments and apologies at this point could be moot.]]>