2013-05-24T12:18:06-07:00 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/ Lussumo Vanilla & Feed Publisher http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8273&Focus=239943#Comment_239943 2010-05-21T21:18:28-07:00 2010-05-21T21:19:24-07:00 groundxero http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=7299

I don't see this happening in the Gulf Coast, but it's interesting.

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Only if they strap some BP executives to the bomb first.

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8273&Focus=239950#Comment_239950 2010-05-21T22:05:48-07:00 2013-05-24T12:18:06-07:00 johnjones http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1052

If they did it, and it actually worked, Obama would be truly awesome. He nuked his Katrina.

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8273&Focus=239953#Comment_239953 2010-05-21T22:55:35-07:00 2013-05-24T12:18:06-07:00 sseloske http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=6141

I really doubt this is going to happen. The attempts to "stop the leaks" have actually been attempts to preserve the site for further use. Nuking the site will seriously compromise that ...

Also, consider the political climate surrounding nuclear weaponry. Using them, even to save the fucking ocean, is at odds with what has been this administration's primary international message.

For the record, I support Obama, but this is absolute torture to see unfold. I'm horrified.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8273&Focus=240015#Comment_240015 2010-05-22T08:11:53-07:00 2013-05-24T12:18:06-07:00 johnjones http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1052

I really doubt this is going to happen. The attempts to "stop the leaks" have actually been attempts to preserve the site for further use. Nuking the site will seriously compromise that ...

I really doubt this is going to happen. The attempts to "stop the leaks" have actually been attempts to preserve the site for further use. Nuking the site will seriously compromise that goal.

Which is part of the problem. The efforts to stop the leak seem most focused on making sure that oil can be pulled out of the site without re-developing it. The oil is seen as far more important than the people and the environment. Which, to BP, it is. Fuck BP, this thing needs to be stopped and stopped now.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8273&Focus=240041#Comment_240041 2010-05-22T10:05:05-07:00 2013-05-24T12:18:06-07:00 Rootfireember http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1551

It seems to me that BP is just dicking around and arguing over what to do with the gvt while the spill gets worse and worse. I'm afraid what it'll do to the economy when the fisheries and whatnot ...

I'm afraid what it'll do to the economy when the fisheries and whatnot and tourism gets splattered over there; and I don't think it's fearmongering.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8273&Focus=240042#Comment_240042 2010-05-22T10:27:02-07:00 2013-05-24T12:18:06-07:00 MG http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=8659

For some reason this plan reminded me of this image. Russian nuclear science was always, shall we say not "human centric". "ike the stupid experiments they were up to at ...

Russian nuclear science was always, shall we say not "human centric". "ike the stupid experiments they were up to at Chernobyl, or how they had people going up on the roof of the exploded reactor in little more than plain clothes grabbing pieces of REACTOR CORE. I'd imagine there might be some unspoken drawbacks to letting off a nuke at the bottom of the ocean.

Also, the fact the creepy Russian scientist in the video compared the process to "cutting off the oxygen to a human being" is not inspiring my confidence.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8273&Focus=240044#Comment_240044 2010-05-22T10:32:44-07:00 2013-05-24T12:18:06-07:00 Rootfireember http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1551

Any idea if the tankers and boats sucking it up plan would help at all? Sounds a bit safer than nuking.

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8273&Focus=240070#Comment_240070 2010-05-22T15:19:13-07:00 2013-05-24T12:18:06-07:00 CodyMelartin http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2076

"Gotta nuke something."

"Gotta nuke something."]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8273&Focus=240097#Comment_240097 2010-05-22T18:51:33-07:00 2013-05-24T12:18:06-07:00 Purple Wyrm http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=6726

Can't for the life of me locate it, but I read something recently that suggested nuking the well could set off a chain reaction resulting in a Yellowstone-super-volcano-extinction-level-event type ...

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8273&Focus=240099#Comment_240099 2010-05-22T18:56:39-07:00 2013-05-24T12:18:06-07:00 James Cunningham http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2925

Yeah, that's pretty much one of the possibly outcomes I heard. And I've got no idea where the article got to either. Still, it does resonate with the part of me that thinks nuking it would just be ...

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8273&Focus=240106#Comment_240106 2010-05-22T19:29:44-07:00 2013-05-24T12:18:06-07:00 Colby http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4976

Yeah, that sounds like a great idea. Let's fix a ecological disaster with a bigger ecological disaster. I love America. Speaking of which, did anyone ever invent those bacteria that could eat oil?

Speaking of which, did anyone ever invent those bacteria that could eat oil?]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8273&Focus=240263#Comment_240263 2010-05-23T17:46:34-07:00 2013-05-24T12:18:06-07:00 SBarrett http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=7820

As long as we do it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure... What? Someone had to say it!

It's the only way to be sure...

What? Someone had to say it!]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8273&Focus=240305#Comment_240305 2010-05-23T22:16:42-07:00 2010-05-23T22:18:25-07:00 Jarreddo http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4838

Seeing as I'm in New Orleans right now, I would like to vote against this plan. On the other hand, it has a great EXTREME vibe to it, like Transmet meets Captain Planet or something. Doing ...

On the other hand, it has a great EXTREME vibe to it, like Transmet meets Captain Planet or something. Doing something over the top and ridiculous is just so appealing to me. For example, my solution to the Israel-Palestine conflict? Hand Jerusalem over to the BUDDHISTS. Should be fun.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8273&Focus=240355#Comment_240355 2010-05-24T03:08:48-07:00 2013-05-24T12:18:06-07:00 Purple Wyrm http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=6726

I also read somewhere (it might have been here on Whitechapel so forgive me if I'm being redundant) about a conspiracy theory that the rig was blown up by a miniature, North Korean suicide submarine ...

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8273&Focus=240477#Comment_240477 2010-05-24T14:36:47-07:00 2013-05-24T12:18:06-07:00 Artenshiur http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=8804

Yeah, that sounds like a great idea. Let's fix a ecological disaster with a bigger ecological disaster. I love America. What makes you think that a tactical nuclear device exploded at a depth of ...

Yeah, that sounds like a great idea. Let's fix a ecological disaster with a bigger ecological disaster. I love America.

What makes you think that a tactical nuclear device exploded at a depth of 5000 feet would be worse ecologically than several million barrels of oil spilling into the gulf? Nukes are powerful, but they are not automatically worse than everything.

I'm not saying it's a great idea, because I'm not qualified to evaluate that sort of thing. There are a lot of factors to be considered. But, for example, if the density change caused by a massive influx of oil cut off the gulf stream currents, causing a precipitous drop in temperature in the northern hemisphere, I'd consider that a pretty major disaster. Whereas it's entirely possible that a nuke set off at the bottom of the gulf would cause a moderately-sized plop on the surface, an increase in the ambient radiation levels which is fractional in comparison to what occurred due to testing in the twentieth century, and a dead zone that already existed to some degree due to increased carbon acidity in the gulf.

Again, I don't know. But I wouldn't brush it off that easily.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8273&Focus=240486#Comment_240486 2010-05-24T15:12:13-07:00 2010-05-24T15:14:54-07:00 groundxero http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=7299

Edited to insert 'Water World' joke. Apparently Kevin Costner has the answer to cleaning the water. (Insert 'Water World' joke here.) ) Here's a video of him testing the prototype.

Edited to insert 'Water World' joke.

Apparently Kevin Costner has the answer to cleaning the water. (Insert 'Water World' joke here.)

)

Here's a video of him testing the prototype.

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Up here in Minnesota, we have a peat bog product that bonds with oil and basically renders it inert. And it can get reabsorbed into the earth, or burned for fuel. Al Franken is trying to get the ...

Here's a link:

http://wcco.com/specialreports/local.company.oil.2.1699397.html]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8273&Focus=240520#Comment_240520 2010-05-24T18:06:26-07:00 2013-05-24T12:18:06-07:00 Jay Kay http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=814

I'm reminded of the general in Mars Attacks, who's contribution to every problem was to "nuke 'em." "WE'VE GOTTA NUKE 'EM AND WE GOTTA NUKE 'EM NOW!" And who knew there was ...

"WE'VE GOTTA NUKE 'EM AND WE GOTTA NUKE 'EM NOW!"

And who knew there was a chance that Kevin Costner might actually contribute something to the world?]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8273&Focus=240549#Comment_240549 2010-05-24T22:43:31-07:00 2010-05-25T20:50:37-07:00 Rootfireember http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1551

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/5/11/11558/1890 Apparently the booming isn't working because...they're doing it wrong. *headdesk* and a National Geographic Article on the Oil ...

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/5/11/11558/1890
Apparently the booming isn't working because...they're doing it wrong.
*headdesk*

and a National Geographic Article on the Oil Spill;
"Dead Zone in the Making"

..to me this does not look good. Not at all :(

and apparently there were warning signs before the spill.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8273&Focus=240796#Comment_240796 2010-05-26T08:34:40-07:00 2013-05-24T12:18:06-07:00 Oddcult http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=214

It's not like there've never been nukes let off underwater before. Sometimes everyone thinks that Hiroshima and Nagasaki are the only two nuclear weapons to have been detonated before, ever, and ...

Sometimes everyone thinks that Hiroshima and Nagasaki are the only two nuclear weapons to have been detonated before, ever, and that a single new one will lead to hideous apocalpyse.

Blowing up oil wells used to be a fairly common way to deal with fires caused by leaks above ground. I'm one of the world's biggest tree huggers and whale fans, but I'm not totally against this idea.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8273&Focus=240797#Comment_240797 2010-05-26T08:49:53-07:00 2013-05-24T12:18:06-07:00 Verissimus http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3379

Won't it poison the water? Making all the creatures which, emmm, need water, like, dead?

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8273&Focus=240798#Comment_240798 2010-05-26T09:00:39-07:00 2013-05-24T12:18:06-07:00 Oddcult http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=214

Depends on the nuke. Any you could probably use active sonar or any number of other techniques to scare off pretty much any sea fauna that would be likely to be affected. Although, yeah, you ...

Any you could probably use active sonar or any number of other techniques to scare off pretty much any sea fauna that would be likely to be affected.

Although, yeah, you could possibly collapse the well using conventional charges, and thinking about it, the site must surely have been surveyed in enough detail to be able to figure out where best they'd go.

Red Adair would have fucking done it, but BP doesn't want to lose the well.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8273&Focus=240802#Comment_240802 2010-05-26T09:20:11-07:00 2010-05-26T09:20:58-07:00 Val A Lindsay II http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1680

I know there are logistics that don't really allow this to work as simply as the video suggests, but it's not the worst idea...

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@Val Logistics such as there possibly not being enough hay in the world to take care of the spill.

Logistics such as there possibly not being enough hay in the world to take care of the spill.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8273&Focus=240820#Comment_240820 2010-05-26T11:36:00-07:00 2013-05-24T12:18:06-07:00 Val A Lindsay II http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1680

@SilentObjector The Logistics I was more referring to carry more into the fact not all the oil is coming to the surface. I've not enough information to say there's more of either oil in the Gulf ...

The Logistics I was more referring to carry more into the fact not all the oil is coming to the surface. I've not enough information to say there's more of either oil in the Gulf or hay in the U.S. It just seems a more ecological solution than some sort of oil-dispersing chemical BP says they can produce and all options should be looked at. If this option only helped cleaning up oil coming inland, acting as an easy clean-up barrier, I'd say go for it, personally...]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8273&Focus=240846#Comment_240846 2010-05-26T14:02:30-07:00 2010-05-26T14:24:27-07:00 Rootfireember http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1551

It's an interesting idea (the hay). Also, here's a wiki on nuking the water. and CBS's ideas of cures for the spill, which include hair, hay and nukes. "Live" cams of attempt to ...

Also, here's a wiki on nuking the water.

and CBS's ideas of cures for the spill, which include hair, hay and nukes.

"Live" cams of attempt to top kill the oil gusher via gizmodo.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8273&Focus=240935#Comment_240935 2010-05-27T05:30:58-07:00 2013-05-24T12:18:06-07:00 Erisah http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=6180

My knee-jerk reaction to the idea of introducing radiation to an already catastrophic disaster is "BAD IDEA". But that might just be my generation showing. On a related note, I'm ...

On a related note, I'm interested to note that the media has gone from calling it "The oilspill" to "BP's Oil spill". And right when the Australian government is talking about instituting a new 40% resources tax on corporations. Not a good week for BP.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8273&Focus=240994#Comment_240994 2010-05-27T11:00:32-07:00 2010-05-27T11:01:48-07:00 steevo http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2415

It seems mud might work. Probably better than detonating a nuke... http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/28/us/28spill.html?partner=rss&emc=rss Heh, their vests remind me of the shirts in ...

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/28/us/28spill.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

Heh, their vests remind me of the shirts in Idiocracy.

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Look more like walmart vests to me.

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8273&Focus=241576#Comment_241576 2010-05-30T06:55:40-07:00 2013-05-24T12:18:06-07:00 Finagle http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5254

The notion of plugging the hole with bits of finely ground oil company executives is sounding better all the time.

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8273&Focus=241584#Comment_241584 2010-05-30T07:30:12-07:00 2013-05-24T12:18:06-07:00 Val A Lindsay II http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1680

I was thinking about this, did a Google search and hey, waddaya know, it's been done before; Skimming with Supertankers. It really is rather depressing that there wasn't a better fail-safe or ...

Skimming with Supertankers.

It really is rather depressing that there wasn't a better fail-safe or cleanup option ready to go for the possibility of something like this.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8273&Focus=241609#Comment_241609 2010-05-30T11:07:23-07:00 2013-05-24T12:18:06-07:00 Rootfireember http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1551

How did they cleanup the largest oil spill? That arabian gulf/kuwait one?

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8273&Focus=241625#Comment_241625 2010-05-30T12:34:26-07:00 2013-05-24T12:18:06-07:00 oogliemooglie http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=7645

Tragic that that the "top-kill" mud infusion didn't work, and oil is still gushing into the Gulf. As more oil coats the beaches, wetlands, and fishing grounds, I feel for Louisiana. First ...

I saw an online chat in the Washington Post, where the expert (a college professor) directly addressed the nuke idea. According to him, high pressure at the wellhead means that detonating a nuke or other explosive could potentially cause a massive rupture in the seabed. If that happened, the Gulf of Mexico and the huge oil reservoir underneath would be in direct, open contact, resulting in severe, planet-changing environmental catastrophe. According to this guy, explosives are not an option.]]>