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    LONDON (AFP) - Britons are losing their grip on reality, according to a poll out Monday which showed that nearly a quarter think Winston Churchill was a myth while the majority reckon Sherlock Holmes was real.

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    Yankee scum like me cannot gloat. I'd reckon more than a quarter of our population think that Britain is a myth.


    Seriously, do they only survey people who've been huffing gas for these things?
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      CommentAuthorBrand
    • CommentTimeFeb 3rd 2008
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    That really makes me wonder who is doing these surveys? Are they only surveying idiots? You really got to wonder about some surveys and there sample participants. I think this is one of them. Next we will be thinking Batman is real...
    • CommentAuthorDracko
    • CommentTimeFeb 3rd 2008
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    I'm having a time out until I can learn some manners.
    Their mistake is surveying Brits.
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    Wonder if the survey was the same one that said most people in the US couldn't find the US on a global map.
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      CommentAuthorAriana
    • CommentTimeFeb 3rd 2008 edited
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    Feh, these are the same poll-portion of the population that voted out Baker in favor of Tennant. They're clearly just grabbing folks as they drunkenly exit Amy Winehouse performances.
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    Feh, these are the same poll-portion of the population that voted out Baker in favor of Tennant.

    That is almost more disturbing.
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    We need some people to sweep our streets.
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    Part of me quickly dismisses most of these surveys. But then personal experience tells me there has to be a hint of truth in these results.
    I just had a college educated co-worker who I highly respected tell me two days ago about how man and dinosaurs had to co-exist because anything else contradicted his religious beliefs. So I am not at all surprised with these results. I just accept that there are going to be a large number of people who don't know better or cannot be bothered to know better.
    I feel slightly glad that the numbers were not higher.
    • CommentAuthorOddcult
    • CommentTimeFeb 4th 2008
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    The question was probably something along the lines of 'do you think Churchill was a mythical figure?' Which some people who certainly believe he existed might agree with.
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    Welcome to my people! The people whose idiocy I rely on to keep me in a job.

    As for where they did the poll? It's called 'Essex'.

    (Yeah - disclaimer, 'Essex' comment is a joke, my brother is an Essex boy and he has exactly the same IQ as me, and before you ask it's over a hundred. Just.)

    Perhaps a more reasoned response after I get some sleep.
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      CommentAuthorMalsain
    • CommentTimeFeb 4th 2008
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    It says UKTV Gold conducted the survey. UKTV Gold, where you can find the likes of Dad's Army, Allo Allo, Robin Hood... If the only contact people really get with historical figures is through fictional works, that's probably why it's worked out like this. Life and history learnt through the TV.
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      CommentAuthorAriana
    • CommentTimeFeb 4th 2008
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    Yeah - disclaimer, 'Essex' comment is a joke, my brother is an Essex boy
    'Hem. So's your brilliant and benevolent host, y'do know...
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    'Hem. So's your brilliant and benevolent host, y'do know...


    It may have crossed my mind. What can I say, I'm feeling brave foolish.
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      CommentAuthorAriana
    • CommentTimeFeb 4th 2008 edited
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    What can I say, I'm feeling brave foolish.
    At least you'll have the appropriate numbers on hand if you wind up in some horrible accident.
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      CommentAuthorOwsler
    • CommentTimeFeb 4th 2008 edited
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    Education, education, education...

    Churchill was a Cyberdyne Systems Terminator sent back from the future to destroy the Roswell aliens, but he shot too far and ended up having to deal with Facism instead. And he invented Pop Idol...but he never showed enough skin so Heat magazine hasn't told the kids THAT..yet.
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      CommentAuthorUnsub
    • CommentTimeFeb 4th 2008
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    I'm having a time out until I can learn some manners.
    What do you mean Batmans not real?

    I think Churchill would want to go back to hell if he saw the UK today.

    He was both everything bad and great about imperial England. He was an elitist fascist bastard but he also had immense strength in his convictions and
    belief that people in the ruling class owed public service. It was that duality that made England strong for centuries. The army for example was the epitome of class society. The officers bought and sold their commissions and were made up of gentleman with very few exceptions. At the same time the sons of Englands finest and most powerful families were expected to stand in the line of fire and be a good example for the troops who were the scum of the earth and die with them if need be. Can you imagine the most powerful people in the US sending their sons to fight in Iraq? I think Churchill would be horrified to see what a bunch of pansies whiners and chavs the UK has turned into. I can just imagine explaining to him how they banned foxhunting because some people found the idea of hurting the foxes upsetting enough that they felt they should be able to force everyone to stop a tradition that goes back for generations. I could probably cheer him up to telling him about how communism and the soviet union turned out though.


    As for Sherlock Holmes he practically is real. The guy has an address and property as well as such a well fleshed out character as any real person. I read an article on the weapons of sherlock Holmes in Guns and Ammo not to long ago. He and Watson both liked the Webly revolver and holmes had a sword cane as well as a single shot .25 target pistol he used to spell out a patriotic V on his study wall.
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    This would be shocking if I didn't spend every day casually observing the charmless fuckwittery and general thickness of the cattle with whom I'm apparently obliged to share oxygen.

    Still, I don't honestly believe that this survey is an accurate representation of the whole population; these are not just the sorts of people who watch UKTV Gold (there's nothing wrong with 'Allo 'Allo or Yes, Prime Minister), but are inclined to take some kind of UKTV Gold survey.
    • CommentAuthorjona
    • CommentTimeFeb 4th 2008
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    I think the remit of the survey has been achieved. It doesn't matter what the survey says as long as UKTV Gold is mentioned frequently and their programme content. I'm sure there are people who believe Churchill was fictional but extrapolating 750 people into a quarter of the population is stretching it a bit far. The survey is merely a vehicle to promote a television channel by using "shocking" figures to catch our attention.
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    Not much of a seller, is it? "Our viewers are intellectually subnormal. Watch our channel!"
    • CommentAuthorjona
    • CommentTimeFeb 4th 2008
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    @old moon face

    Most people wouldn't make that connection, they would just see the name and think haven't watched all those programmes in years, let's have a look. Though why defeats me, as the schedule seems to consist of programmes you tried to avoid when they were on terrestrial TV.

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