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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 09:32:28 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>roadscum</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Apparently <a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/03/coffee_deniers/" >caffeine provides no net benefit to alertness.</a><br />Even in the depths of my caffeineless misery (i'm not well), i can't believe this is true. Neither can the Reg. Anyone else got any thoughts on it? ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 10:03:57 -0700</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[ i dont drink any of those. when i need to be alert i drink a lot of water and eat fruit...hydration and nutrients are proven over thousands of years. energy drinks just make me sick. <br /><br />if i need to be alert, but not sober, i drink whiskey. it somehow perks me up ( but only up to about three shots. after that im just drunk) ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 10:17:25 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Rootfireember</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I'll state a more complete response after I've read the paper it was based on.<br />-also it apparently takes about an hour for the caffeine to really hit your system...I want to know if they took THAT into consideration with the trials, as well as how one can build up a tolerance to it over time. It's also a SMALL sample size for a study. If someone else can replicate it, with the same results, then I'll be more impressed. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 10:24:34 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>keyofsilence</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Caffeine never had that effect on me, it just makes me feel like shit and get a headache. I always wondered what all the fuss was about. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 11:04:10 -0700</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[ Isn't that also because the body gets so quickly accustomed to caffeine, so after two weeks or so, the benefit is pretty much gone? ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 12:28:44 -0700</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[ They mention tolerance in the article; <blockquote >With frequent consumption, substantial tolerance develops to the anxiogenic effect of caffeine, even in genetically susceptible individuals, but no net benefit for alertness is gained, as caffeine abstinence reduces alertness and consumption merely returns it to baseline.</blockquote><br />About a month ago i gave up booze, fags and coffee as part of a slightly desperate attempt to bring my blood pressure down to acceptable levels. I used to start the day with a litre caffetiere of viciously strong coffee and another couple of buckets at work. I missed it a lot when i first stopped but with time the yearning has lessened and i get by fairly happily on water and fruit juice now. Perhaps there <em >is</em> something to this tolerance business. Mind you, i'm not working at the moment, how i'll cope getting up at 3 or 4am without a mug or two of twitch juice could be a completely different story.<br /><br />As for Red Bull and its 4 for a quid poundland clones, vile, sickly stuff, only use it in emergencies if i get the nods on a long journey and can't get hold of some decent coffee. Dunno what the good Mr Ellis sees in it meself. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 12:31:24 -0700</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[ I think people are thinking this study studied something this study didn't study. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 13:22:37 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>LBA</author>
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			<![CDATA[ you can have it when you pry it from my cold, sluggish, cranky hands!! ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 13:27:22 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>sacredchao</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I've always found that high levels of caffeine make me jittery, but not any more awake. That's why I love my adderall. It actually helps me stay awake through a whole day. Without it, sleepy time comes every four or five hours. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 16:43:01 -0700</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[ "Isn't that also because the body gets so quickly accustomed to caffeine, so after two weeks or so, the benefit is pretty much gone? "<br /><br />I've heard the alternate theory that within a few weeks you're addicted to it and the "jolt" you feel after your first morning coffee is actually just the withdrawal symptoms receding. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 17:58:41 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>TheDeeMan</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I can believe that. Caffeine is my crack. I go a day without it and my ass is draggin'. I get that next cup and I'm like my old happy caffeine addicted self again. I mean, just brewing a cup after going without knowing that I'll soon have more makes me feel better. Now that's addiction.<br /><br />You want a drug dealer? Try Maxwell House.<br /><br />Dee<br />....................................................<br /><a href="http://www.webcomicsnation.com/moniquem/continentals/series.php" >THE CONTINENTALS.</a> Murder, mystery, intrigue, adventure--And steampunk! ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 18:19:23 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>warrenellis</author>
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			<![CDATA[ LIES<br /><br /><br /><strong >LIES</strong> ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 21:34:01 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>rickiep00h</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I'm actually curious how they measured "alertness." Seems like a pretty subjective thing to me.<br /><br />Plus, wasn't there a study that came out like two months ago that said moderate caffeine use increases brain plasticity, and thus, facilitates learning? Maybe my caffeine-addled brain is making that up, but I'm pretty sure it's at least partially beneficial. It may not have the same kick for people that need two cups just to open their eyes in the morning, but that doesn't mean people should just kick it to the curb. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 21:48:32 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Rootfireember</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I want to say arent there PET scans that show increased metabolism in the brain after caffeine consumption?? ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 22:09:06 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Val A Lindsay II</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I agree with filthy leader. Caffeine is my perfect drug... ]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 00:56:12 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Scrymgeour</author>
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			<![CDATA[ i must say that after 14 cans in two hours i didnt think my alertness went up, i just wanted to cry, and shake and cry....although as long as i also have nicotine it seems to make me concentrate quite well. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 21:00:39 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>TheEndsOfInvention</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I'd say there's a distinction between alertness and awareness/wakefulness the article doesn't draw. <br />Sure caffeine keeps you alert, it'll have you barking at cars if you drink enough. But does it actually increase awareness? <br />Anyone who's studied all night knows your brain grinds to a halt, with or without, when rosy-fingered dawn arrives and sticks two of them up at you. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jun 2010 22:20:04 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Rootfireember</author>
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			<![CDATA[ <em >Anyone who's studied all night knows your brain grinds to a halt, with or without, when rosy-fingered dawn arrives and sticks two of them up at you. </em><br />Depends on your circadian rhythm, among other factors. Not everyone crashes once light hits and the birds start chirping.<br /><br />On the topic of caffeine - mixing as many energy drinks as you can get into an uber-energy drink is not a good idea. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 00:52:38 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>ravnos</author>
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			<![CDATA[ You also have to remember that delicious delicious Red Bull is chock full of vitimins B12 and B6, both of which increase metabolism, which increases energy levels. It's not just the caffeine in a lot of these energy drinks that gives you the *actual* energy boost but vitamins and other less savory things that actually have been proven to increase energy levels (either immediately or over time).<br /><br />Also, in agreement with Rootfireember... I'm pretty sure that I've seen reports on PET scans proving that caffeine does give you a mental "pick-me-up." But that was a while ago... and my booze/caffeine/nicotine addled memory gets fuzzy sometimes... ]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 05:46:50 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Timbo</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I always felt that caffeine works pretty well. <br /><br />I am unsure if it wakes me up of makes me smarter ( both tricky to achieve in the first place).<br /><br />It allegedly works less well the more you use it  - therefore requiring you to use more.<br /><br />So it is a bit cigs & booze - no problem then.<br /><br />That said i am off for a Kawfee right now. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 08:36:03 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Hoplite</author>
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			<![CDATA[ &quot;I want to say aren't there PET scans that show increased metabolism in the brain after caffeine consumption??&quot;<br /><br />That would be true after consuming anything. It's not like the brain doesn't need sugars to function. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 08:55:47 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>rickiep00h</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I'm guessing that study that ravnos mentioned, and I vaguely recall reading (I really wish I could remember where I find these things), used a caffeine pill, much like the study in the OP. Thus blood sugar level should have very little to do with the results. And I'm assuming you know that caffeine != sugar. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 09:07:51 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>icelandbob</author>
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			<![CDATA[ well i don't drink coffee but i drink about 15 cups of tea a day and it's done me no harmmmmddduuuurrrrrrr ]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 11:20:37 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Rootfireember</author>
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			<![CDATA[ PET scans can use to trace a variety of things; though glucose metabolism is one of the most common. Standard warnings before a PET scan include limiting the caffeine and the glucose you take in to your body, so I'm assuming the tracers can attach to glucose and caffeine molecules with very little trouble.<br /><br />also: <a href="http://www.syncrat.com/articles/coffees-effects-and-brain-scans" >Here's a study</a> that found the opposite of the one posted above.<br /><em >" those who received caffeine had significantly greater activation in parts of the prefrontal lobe, known as the anterior cingulate and the anterior cingulate gyrus. These areas are involved in 'executive memory', attention, concentration, planning and monitoring."<br /><br />“This type of memory is used when, for example, you look up a telephone number in a book and then mentally store it before dialling,” he adds.</em><br /><br />edit: Just read the abstract of the actual study and...<br />wow. The journalism 'based' on it seems to have little to do with the actual study for example the study abstract says:<br /><em >Placebo administration in MHp[caffeine consuming]  participants decreased alertness and increased headache</em> ]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 11:30:26 -0700</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[ <blockquote >well i don't drink coffee but i drink about 15 cups of tea a day and it's done me no harmmmmddduuuurrrrrrr </blockquote><br /><br /><br />hahaha me too...but now im cutting down after my doctor told me my extreme tea drinking is 99% of the reason ive started getting kidney stones. shockingly, i havent experienced any MAJOR withdrawal symptoms ]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 11:36:43 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>roadscum</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Listening to you lot fills me with bitter, caffeine envy. WANT COFFEE!<br /><br />Having done some digging around, i gain some small comfort from discovering that <a href="http://caffeineweb.com/" >you're all mad</a> and it's not good for spiders. Funny that, i can think of one that seemed to get on fairly well with it...<br /><img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/14/Caffeinated_spiderwebs.jpg" alt="i hope that fly is decaff..." > ]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 11:51:12 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Rootfireember</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Roadscum- Yay spiders on drugs! BWAHAHA! ]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 11:53:59 -0700</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[ <em >extreme tea drinking</em><br /><br /><br />A phrase that has never before been uttered by humans. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 11:57:55 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>mister hex</author>
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			<![CDATA[ @Warren - ... or the newest demonstration sport at the 2012 Olympics? ]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 12:00:55 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Rootfireember</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Roadscum- most of those are about Caffiene toxicity which occurs after drinking over 300mg of caffeine.<br /><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/rtkrum/4266263806/sizes/o/" >Here's a nice poster telling you what your drink of choice has in it</a>. <br /><img src="http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4022/4266263806_4054cea43c_b.jpg" alt="caff" > ]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 12:07:19 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>joe.distort</author>
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			<![CDATA[ <blockquote >extreme tea drinking<br /><br />A phrase that has never before been uttered by humans. </blockquote><br /><br />and i meant it! i only drink tea while skateboarding off of airplanes while fireworks shoot out of my ass ]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 12:35:57 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>rickiep00h</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Oh now you've gone and invoked spiders on drugs, which only makes me think of this:<br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHzdsFiBbFc" ></a><br /><br />I must say, this thread has certainly kept me amused. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 12:52:23 -0700</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[ @Rickiepooh: Yay. The video! ]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 13:14:35 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>roadscum</author>
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			<![CDATA[ @ rickiep00h: am i allowed to declare you 'Da Winnah!'?<br /><br />@ Rootfireember: Over 300mg? That would have been me in the morning then. So where would <a href="http://www.irn-bru.co.uk/" >Irn Bru</a> sit on that poster then? Hang on, 114mg/l x 330ml/1000 = 37.62. Irn Bru, the lorry driver's friend, who the fuck needs energy drinks? And the ads are rather good too. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 14:18:55 -0700</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[ 300mg in a 5-hour period would <em >definitely</em> make me jittery. I start getting headaches around three cans of Mountain Dew in that period, and I generally nurse a can of Red Bull for most of a morning. And this is from someone that drinks a pretty heavy amount of soda.<br /><br />Anecdotally, a fair amount of the morning pick-me-up from [insert beverage here] is less from the caffeine, and more from having tasty liquid in my system. The caffeine really doesn't start to do its thing until I start dragging in the late afternoon, at which point I begin pulling out stops. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jun 2010 16:01:15 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Renato França</author>
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			<![CDATA[ There is some research that caffeine can bring order to the breast cancer?. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jun 2010 17:27:14 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Rootfireember</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Truly, Caffeine is more magic than any iGadget. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 03:12:13 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>meaninglessnoise</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Don't care if it keeps me more alert - <a href="http://www.webmd.com/alzheimers/news/20090706/caffeine-may-fight-alzheimers-disease-memory-loss" >if it fights Alzheimer's</a>, pour me another.<br />But back to the original posted article - it sounds like whomever wrote the article was already predisposed to dismiss the research, so it sounds to me like regardless of how silly the initial research was, that "news brief" did a terrible job of reporting it.<br />The <a href="http://www.nature.com/npp/journal/vaop/ncurrent/abs/npp201071a.html" >link</a> they provided sheds a little more light on the research, but I did go a little cross-eyed trying to understand it. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 07:12:48 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Val A Lindsay II</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Oh damn all this talk about my lovely drug! Now the <a href="http://www.pavonishop.com/lapaveuresma.html" >La Panovi drawbar espresso machine</a> just rose to the top of my 'WANT!' list...<br /><br /><img src="http://common2.csnimages.com/lf/8/hash/1191/250501/1/Europiccola+8-Cup+Espresso+Machine+in+Chrome.jpg" alt="" > ]]>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 09:20:04 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>roadscum</author>
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			<![CDATA[ @ meaninglessnoise:<br /><blockquote >whomever wrote the article was already predisposed to dismiss the research</blockquote><br />Surely not?  El Reg is renowned for its restrained, impartial reporting. They do like their coffee though.<br /><br />There is more good news for all you caffeine heads, apparently <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/10350373.stm" >it's good for the ticker</a> according to a recent Dutch study;<br /><blockquote >Those who drank more than six cups of tea a day cut their risk of heart disease by a third, the study of 40,000 people found. </blockquote><br /><br />I'm going to be having words with my GP about that one, oh yes. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 07:11:33 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>quantummind</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I would say caffeine definitely makes me more alert.  It's certainly no replacement for sleep, but when tired it is much more effective than only juice and water.  I have found however that drinking lots of water with my caffeine can improve its effect.  Here's another good article arguing cognitive improvement. <a href="http://www.springerlink.com/content/y414x83288221635/" ></a> ]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 07:12:32 -0700</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[ http://www.springerlink.com/content/y414x83288221635/ ]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 07:42:30 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>johnjones</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Caffeine doesn't make me feel more alert, just jittery and more awake.  I don't even both with Red Bull and it's ilk anymore (especially since the stuff taste like carbonated cough syrup).  Instead, I use 5 Hour energy.  It still tastes nasty, but there's a lot less of it to drink and it does seem to last longer than energy drinks.<br /><br />That said, when I want to be able to think and act with alertness, I prefer Amphetamine mix(basically generic Adderall).  It clears my head, helps my concentrate and for some reason it lets my imagination flow a lot more freely. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Aug 2010 08:37:22 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>John Skylar</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Based on this article I've been experimenting for a couple of weeks now with caffeine right before bed to prevent morning withdrawal. As long as I get to sleep before it kicks in, it seems to result in more awake mornings even before my customary cup of coffee.<br /><br />...so I've confirmed I'm an addict.  But I can manage it now! ]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Aug 2010 18:44:04 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Finagle</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Thing is, Red Bull doesn't really have that much caffeine, comparatively.  The thing that gives it the extra kick, and what 5-Hour Energy is based off of, is huge amounts of B-complex vitamins.   I've been finding it much more effective and cheaper to just get a good full spectrum B-complex to take along with my other rather extensive daily maintenance stack. <br /><br />I don't necessarily believe I'll be any healthier or socially purer for the effort, I just find it cheaper and more trustworthy to assemble my own product. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Aug 2010 23:54:06 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>funranium</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I can definitely testify to the ~4hr caffeine half life (which depending on dose can take quite a few half lives to drop down) and the tolerance than grow to be quite impressive.  The more interesting part I've found in my experiments with coffee extractions is the wide pharmacopoeia of the coffee bean; there's a hell of a lot more in there than just caffeine and different extraction technique may select the components differently.  The crash I'm accustomed to with energy drinks and sodas I think is more sugar based than caffeine, while the post-diner coffee crash may be theophylline instead of caffeine.<br /><br />Not to be guilty of too much shameless whorebaggery, but I give to you early experiments on the <a href="http://funraniumlabs.com/the-black-blood-of-the-earth/" >Black Blood of the Earth Test Subjects</a>. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Aug 2010 10:46:46 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Finagle</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Interestingly, there's a <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niacin" >close chemical relationship</a> between niacin (B3), one of the main B complex ingredients in Red Bull, and nicotine:<br /><br /><blockquote >Niacin was first described by Hugo Weidel in 1873 in his studies of nicotine.[5] The original preparation remains useful: The oxidation of nicotine using nitric acid.[6] Niacin was extracted from livers by Conrad Elvehjem who later identified the active ingredient, then referred to as the "pellagra-preventing factor" and the "anti-blacktongue factor."[7] When the biological significance of nicotinic acid was realized, it was thought appropriate to choose a name to dissociate it from nicotine, to avoid the perception that vitamins or niacin-rich food contains nicotine, or that cigarettes contain vitamins. The resulting name 'niacin' was derived from nicotinic acid + vitamin.</blockquote><br /><br />I had no idea of this, but it certainly goes a way towards explaining the synergy between Red Bull and smoking.  Also, there needs to be a band named "Anti-Blacktongue Factor." ]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Aug 2010 17:04:43 -0700</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[ Red Bull has always tasted like fucking piss to me and never understood why anyone would drink it. If you're gonna use amphetamine drinks to stay awake, just be a man and do meth or speed.<br /><br />Otherwise, I'll be all like "Fuck yeah, 'Murica!" and just stick to coffee. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Aug 2010 07:36:15 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>government spy</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Yeah, that's all fine and good to say, but Red Bull doesn't make you look like <a href="http://www.drugfree.org/portal/drugissue/methresources/faces/index.html" >this</a> afterwards. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Aug 2010 07:50:14 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Philip</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I don't know if it makes me any more or less alert.. But I will say that there is no chance in hell, that I could have stayed awake for those (luckily rare) 17-20 hour shifts without it. (Red Bull) ..and that's entirely without a regular intake. ]]>
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