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    Out this week, apparently. Thoughts, comments, etc?

    -- W
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    I thought the twist about what the 'mutants' were was great. Nice bit of continuity to reference, really surprised me.

    Of course, everyone else who reads the book is going to go "who?"
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      CommentAuthorlordmitz
    • CommentTimeJun 10th 2010 edited
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    was 'warpies' a old captain britain reference, or am i going senile in my early years? i seem to remember mutated children in that with the same name. any relation?

    edit: checked with google, yes, cap had warpies.

    i love this series already, btw. love the pacing of the opening mini-fight scene followed by how slutty emma is.
    • CommentAuthorKelind
    • CommentTimeJun 10th 2010
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    Agreed... Slutty Emma is awesome
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      CommentAuthorDoctor_Six
    • CommentTimeJun 10th 2010
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    Cap Britain had warpies, and also "Doc Croc" came from the Jamie Delano run that followed Jaspers' Warp.

    Warren and Kaare are making Emma's breasts an integral part of the team.
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      CommentAuthorlordmitz
    • CommentTimeJun 10th 2010
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    Warren and Kaare are making Emma's breasts an integral part of the team.

    in the interests of fairness they should also do the same with beast's junk, but i'm not sure anyone wants to go down that route.
    • CommentAuthorfod_xp
    • CommentTimeJun 10th 2010
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    Warren Ellis- He has the Midas Touch, doesn't matter what, he turns it to gold.

    Also, the referencing to Ghost Box was nice, very nice, and Emma, gawd, I missed her sass, sexed up antics. This is the Emma Frost I remember. Also, Ororo looks so beautiful, aw heck, everyone looks fabulous!

    @Lordmitz, the same was true way back in Morrison's run with Quitely; don't worry about thinking of Henry's junk, I have thought of that, too. *cough*
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    IT'S OKAY IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE BOOK, PEOPLE.
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      CommentAuthorErikCJones
    • CommentTimeJun 10th 2010
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    I'm digging it so far, but the art is really hit and miss for me. Certain characters look a bit off from different angles.
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    "IT'S OKAY IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE BOOK, PEOPLE."


    Okay Warren...

    I find myself, yet again, of the opposite opinion with Emma. I feel that, after reading the script in the back, I prefer the written word to what was visually put before me. In the script, it came across, to me at least, as Emma, who is well known to have a snippy/slutty disposition, having an intelligent conversation with someone about a fairly intellectual topic. It drove home that, while she finds complete joy in scandalizing the world of young mutants, she is actually a very smart lady. I've always loved Emma for that very reason... she's an oversexed, bitchy, controlling woman, but she is actually quite intelligent. My complaint, then, is that you wrote a great demonstration of this, but allowed it to fall by the wayside in favor of showing off her breasts.

    Other than that, I am pleased.
    • CommentAuthorkyu915
    • CommentTimeJun 11th 2010 edited
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    I love the book.

    The characterizations are really on center stage here.

    I wonder if it was a conscious decision to show more of Scott Summers self doubt(not that this issue doesn't open with him taking charge) in this series as opposed to Fraction's run with the veritable legion of character's and Cyclops' portrayal having to be the more succint "silent but strong" approach. Either way, I love the dynamic between him and Storm. Best friends on equal footing who would almost be lovers if not for the strange directions life has taken them.

    Storm is great as the caring motherly figure here. Though I still like her best when she plays Scott's foil and confidante.

    Beast is great in this issue as well. I love the scene where he holds up his hands and is essentially like, "Listen up, I am going to touch you in the brain with language!" His mad scientist bedside manner is always welcome. I'm also glad he's the one who has the common sense, perspective, and morality to point out what N'dingi is doing when he busts in.

    Emma Frost once again brings an enormous amount of hilarity right when it's needed. Her baby holding moment is a nice bit of normality compared to her otherwise outlandishness.

    Wolverine didn't get as much face time in this issue but still , Mr. Ellis manages to single handily offer up a new (and in my opinion, better) catchphrase for Logan.

    Armor is nice as a little inquisitive tyke but I hope to see her more well defined in her differences to Wolverines past Asian or Asian possessed sidekicks. (Also, I'm still waiting to see all these blue eyed Asians that comics keep trying to tell me there are)

    The art is great too with caricatures nearly as distinct as the characters, especially in Emma's case. Andrews kind of turned me off with Spider-Man Reign but he has won me back over with this.
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    My complaint, then, is that you wrote a great demonstration of this, but allowed it to fall by the wayside in favor of showing off her breasts.

    Not sure where "allowed it to" comes from.
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    I wonder if it was a conscious decision to show more of Scott Summers self doubt(not that this issue doesn't open with him taking charge) in this series

    This was, ha ha, supposed to follow after the Phil Jiminez EXOGENETIC arc, and so Scott's actions here would make more sense in the context of that, particularly the 4th issue...
    • CommentAuthorkyu915
    • CommentTimeJun 11th 2010
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    My complaint, then, is that you wrote a great demonstration of this, but allowed it to fall by the wayside in favor of showing off her breasts.

    Not sure where "allowed it to" comes from.

    The question I got from this and have been curious about myself, @warrenellis: Do you do a final pass on your work after the art is finished like Bendis or Brubaker?
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    With the Marvel stuff? I don't, no. I focus entirely on the script I submit and then I'm done. It's up to the editors to let me know if something's gone wrong and to ensure the art is inside the parameters of the script. The artist can talk to me at any time if something's not working. I often won't see the completed art until it's published.
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    I think that is the source of my frustration with the first issue then.
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      CommentAuthortim12s
    • CommentTimeJun 11th 2010
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    For once I'll let my comics nerd out-

    Other than Doc Croc, and the soldiers looking like The Fury in #1, anyone else from Marvel UK Captain Britain turning up? Gatecrasher & Technet? Jamie Braddock?

    And why would Beast be so surprised at Warpies? Surely he would have heard of them through Excalibur & Meggan?

    And how does the Jaspers Warp tie into Ghost Boxes...?
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      CommentAuthorRoho
    • CommentTimeJun 11th 2010
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    Issue one was great, I was surprised by the amount of storytelling added by Karee, especially in the storm page (when she is peeling that apple with the knife) and the terrorist/freedom fighters conversation in the plane. I used your script on a writing workshop we are doing once a month here in Boston. To show how good characterization makes a story more believable and entertaining and how it doesn't necessarily needs to come 100% from the writer.

    One question, did you talk with Karee about the "takes" on this characters before hand or he just ran with it. The knife with the apple says so much about Storms character with out spelling it out, It's brilliant!


    Sorry I know this was about #2, it was a great issue, I was expecting a reference to the NEO! haha, When can we expect a HBO animated series based on this?
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    One question, did you talk with Karee about the "takes" on this characters before hand or he just ran with it. The knife with the apple says so much about Storms character with out spelling it out, It's brilliant!

    I really set things up, on AXM, so each artist could do their own takes on the characters. More fun for them. Beyond "field uniforms" or "street uniforms" or whatever, it's all them.
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    And how does the Jaspers Warp tie into Ghost Boxes...?

    Not telling, on all counts.

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