Whitechapel - Notes From Warren 19jun10 2013-05-22T20:13:36-07:00 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/ Lussumo Vanilla & Feed Publisher Notes From Warren 19jun10 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=245951#Comment_245951 2010-06-19T10:07:43-07:00 2013-05-22T20:13:36-07:00 warrenellis http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2 Looks like the JONAH HEX movie cratered on arrival: ...newcomer Warner Bros' Jonah Hex already is such a flop that it's not even meeting the studio's low opening weekend expectation of $10M from ... cratered on arrival:

...newcomer Warner Bros' Jonah Hex already is such a flop that it's not even meeting the studio's low opening weekend expectation of $10M from 2,825 venues after it wasn't tracking. My sources say it opened to only $1.9M Friday and will be hard-pressed to get to even $6M this weekend. It also should drop to 6th place Sunday. As one Warner Bros exec said about the lesson learned; "You don't take a handsome actor and disgfigure him." The studio is so embarrassed that it took great pains to points out that the pic was greenlighted before Diane Nelson took over as DC Entertainment prez. About the cowboy with the disfigured face and legend that he can't be killed, a minor character in the DC Comics galaxy of stars, Jonah Hex was attempted on the cheap. The studio claims the final budget was $35M....

....(but) I hear Warner Bros cut the original budget of $80M to $40M right before production with no script changes. Then the studio did 70 pages of reshoots about 6 months ago. That may have added another $25M for a new budget of $65M. Ouch! As one insider tells me, "the studio looked at the movie a long time ago and wrote it off".
]]> Notes From Warren 19jun10 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=245955#Comment_245955 2010-06-19T11:07:09-07:00 2013-05-22T20:13:36-07:00 Renato França http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=9008 I think this movie will be a failure, principally in South American. Notes From Warren 19jun10 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=245957#Comment_245957 2010-06-19T11:13:45-07:00 2013-05-22T20:13:36-07:00 ales kot http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4375 They should have made THE PRO instead. With Julia Roberts as THE PRO and Richard Gere as the Superman clone. Notes From Warren 19jun10 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=245961#Comment_245961 2010-06-19T11:33:58-07:00 2013-05-22T20:13:36-07:00 Ninewhilenine83 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=8787 @ales kot The best casting choices made in a while.
The best casting choices made in a while.]]> Notes From Warren 19jun10 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=245964#Comment_245964 2010-06-19T11:51:59-07:00 2013-05-22T20:13:36-07:00 chris g http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1829 Yeah. I really dig the Hex but glitzing him up and cramming steampunk and requisite hot chick into his movie to get people to see it wasn't gonna do it any favors. AND it's PG-13. He's a killerrr, ... killerrr, why not let him enjoy it.
I do want to hear the score by Mastodon though!]]> Notes From Warren 19jun10 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=245965#Comment_245965 2010-06-19T11:53:38-07:00 2013-05-22T20:13:36-07:00 helloMuller http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=560 Does it by any chance feature a large mechanical spider? Notes From Warren 19jun10 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=245973#Comment_245973 2010-06-19T12:36:16-07:00 2013-05-22T20:13:36-07:00 James Cunningham http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2925 All I now about Hex is the trailers made it look like every other watered-down PG-13 summer blockbuster brainless-fest out there. They can go on about budget and disfigured actors all they want, but ... Notes From Warren 19jun10 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=245992#Comment_245992 2010-06-19T14:19:13-07:00 2010-06-19T16:03:15-07:00 xoxoroo http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=8378 You know what? I saw it last night and I am glad I did. It was Friday night, and to find a movie all five of us want to see (5= Me & Cowboy my main man, + three male twenty somethings known as ...
Also some people may think megan fox cannot act, but none of the men with me seemed too worried about that.

{Also we saw the A Team Last week and have already seen Ironman. Also, no one will see Toy Story with me :p}]]> Notes From Warren 19jun10 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=246000#Comment_246000 2010-06-19T14:46:30-07:00 2013-05-22T20:13:36-07:00 Zeebo http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1651 You know, I saw the preview and thought, "That's not quite right, but FUCKYEAHDUALHORSEMINIGUNS," because I am a Texan and we like horses and projectile death. Then I heard about the rest ... Notes From Warren 19jun10 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=246020#Comment_246020 2010-06-19T15:34:31-07:00 2013-05-22T20:13:36-07:00 Fauxhammer http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=27 If this so much as inconveniences a quality "Dark Tower" movie, I will conduct a punchin' tour of Hollywood. Notes From Warren 19jun10 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=246051#Comment_246051 2010-06-19T17:26:44-07:00 2013-05-22T20:13:36-07:00 kperkins http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=456 @xoxoroo My 20 year old son would have gone with you. Him, his girlfriend, and 18 yr old brother went with him too. Notes From Warren 19jun10 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=246091#Comment_246091 2010-06-19T20:06:41-07:00 2013-05-22T20:13:36-07:00 Andre Navarro http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1561 As one Warner Bros exec said about the lesson learned; "You don't take a handsome actor and disgfigure him." I haven't seen the film, but if that's what the exec considers a problem, ... As one Warner Bros exec said about the lesson learned; "You don't take a handsome actor and disgfigure him."

I haven't seen the film, but if that's what the exec considers a problem, then lesson not learned at all.

I expected JONAH HEX to be badly-received, but turns out that's a bit of an understatement now. Still not a surprise. This had all the ingredients of a flop for some time.

Meanwhile Pixar seems to have made yet another universally acclaimed movie (except for Armond White, of course).]]> Notes From Warren 19jun10 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=246121#Comment_246121 2010-06-19T22:14:07-07:00 2013-05-22T20:13:36-07:00 KitsuneCaligari http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=248 And this is why there will not be a proper Sandman film - if folks can't get the idea (at least the idea that Lansdale proposed in his work on he subject) on something as simple as a revisionist ... Notes From Warren 19jun10 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=246130#Comment_246130 2010-06-19T22:30:59-07:00 2013-05-22T20:13:36-07:00 MrSmite http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3810 This makes me even more curious of how the film would've performed by changing nothing but the lead's name and costuming and rebranding it as Batman: Steampunk. I also can't help but wonder if the ... I also can't help but wonder if the real culprit is the marketing, since the box office take is so abysmal it's failing against films that opened two weeks ago.]]> Notes From Warren 19jun10 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=246147#Comment_246147 2010-06-20T00:52:06-07:00 2013-05-22T20:13:36-07:00 Robson http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=682 A source informs me that the director originally had clearance for an R-rated revenge film, until the suits got word that it was based on a comic and imposed all this flashy stuff, Megan Fox, and a ... Notes From Warren 19jun10 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=246164#Comment_246164 2010-06-20T03:28:59-07:00 2013-05-22T20:13:36-07:00 manglr http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=6038 Yep, I'll go with a lesson not learned by the studio. I not sure why they'd go after a Jonah Hex movie in the first place as a property to cultivate from the DC library, but for pity's sake if ...
I not sure why they'd go after a Jonah Hex movie in the first place as a property to cultivate from the DC library, but for pity's sake if you're going to do it at least be true to the source material and have a good script.

But then, I don't settle for mild brainless entertainment in my movies any longer.]]> Notes From Warren 19jun10 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=246176#Comment_246176 2010-06-20T06:10:39-07:00 2013-05-22T20:13:36-07:00 William George http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=7366 Obviously they should have sent him into the post-apocalyptic future and gave him a bad-assed motorcycle. Notes From Warren 19jun10 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=246243#Comment_246243 2010-06-20T17:41:17-07:00 2013-05-22T20:13:36-07:00 hectorlima http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=83 looks like a mess badly sewn together. will it be DC's GHOST RIDER? they should have done Hex like this indie western LAST RITES OF RANSOM PRIDE.
they should have done Hex like this indie western LAST RITES OF RANSOM PRIDE.]]> Notes From Warren 19jun10 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=246253#Comment_246253 2010-06-20T19:21:10-07:00 2013-05-22T20:13:36-07:00 VietBong http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1200 Question from someone who has only seen the ads on TV, and who has never read the comic: Is this movie in any way loyal to the source material, much like Sin City or Watchmen tried to be, or did ...
Is this movie in any way loyal to the source material, much like Sin City or Watchmen tried to be, or did they pull another Constantine?]]> Notes From Warren 19jun10 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=246416#Comment_246416 2010-06-21T12:28:02-07:00 2013-05-22T20:13:36-07:00 fod_xp http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=6499 @ Hectolima- please tell me that's either going to be shown in movie theaters or direct to DVD. Women starring in westerns is instant win with me, hence why I loved that western movie starring ...
Women starring in westerns is instant win with me, hence why I loved that western movie starring Sharon Stone, Leonardo DiCaprio [dies by his father's own gun in a duel contest], Russell Crowe, and Gene Hackman, DiCaprio's father and the sick bastard that gave a gun to the little girl [Sharon Stone is her as an adult] and said if she could shoot the rope for the noose around her father's neck they both could live. Well she shot, but ended up shooting her own father in the head, and Gene Hackman and his posse ride off and laugh at her.

Then there's Ignition City, too. So yes, this movie has priority with me.]]> Notes From Warren 19jun10 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=246421#Comment_246421 2010-06-21T12:45:12-07:00 2013-05-22T20:13:36-07:00 longtimelurker http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=7739 @VietBong You have to ask? There is so much to laugh at in this endeavor. They stripped the budget and then ended up paying almost as much as originally budgeted! They put it in the ...
You have to ask?

There is so much to laugh at in this endeavor. They stripped the budget and then ended up paying almost as much as originally budgeted! They put it in the marketplace with NO hard-R competition on a Father's Day--the one day of the year men get to do what they want to do, then water it down to PG-13 and remove the whole reason for seeing it. They cast Megan Fox as a prostitute and then kept her clothes on. (News flash: men and boys don't want to pay to see Ms. Fox with her clothes on! They didn't do it for JENNIFER'S BODY.) They tried to sell it as a Western at the same time RED DEAD REDEMPTION came out, which showed everyone what a real western looks like. They tried to sell it as a comic book movie the same time that THE A-TEAM came out, which is about as comic book a movie can be and it wasn't even based on a comic book! It actually qualifies as a weird occult tale and they COULD have sold it as that, since there's no competition for that right now... nah, that would have been honest. It wasn't even the darkest movie out this week; TOY STORY 3 was unbeLIEVably dark! And clocking in at 72 minutes... I like to escape from the heat and eat popcorn too, but at least make me need to get up to pee when the movie's over. MEN IN BLACK II was 88 minutes, and that was over before it started. This movie will be forgotten, but it needs to be remembered as a rare occasion when HOLLYWOOD did everything wrong and got what it deserved.]]> Notes From Warren 19jun10 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=246422#Comment_246422 2010-06-21T12:49:45-07:00 2013-05-22T20:13:36-07:00 rickiep00h http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2930 @fod_xp - that would be The Quick and the Dead, and I loved that one also. The absolutely insane shot of The sun shining through the bullet hole in Gene Hackmanwas utter garbage, but it fit into the ... The Quick and the Dead, and I loved that one also. The absolutely insane shot of
The sun shining through the bullet hole in Gene Hackman
was utter garbage, but it fit into the feel of the movie so well I let it slide. It was just one of those moments my brain went "Oh that's badass" instead of "That would never happen."]]> Notes From Warren 19jun10 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=246444#Comment_246444 2010-06-21T15:45:34-07:00 2013-05-22T20:13:36-07:00 Utopiacomplex http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=7516 The real reason it tanked so hard? It is FUCKING TERRIBLE! Talk about shitting the bed and anally raping a cadaver. I haven't seen a film this atrociously written and directed since The Avengers (you ... ]]> Notes From Warren 19jun10 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=246445#Comment_246445 2010-06-21T15:46:49-07:00 2013-05-22T20:13:36-07:00 Utopiacomplex http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=7516 a link? http://www.exclaim.ca/motionreviews/latestsub.aspx?csid1=144&csid2=871&fid1=47410 Notes From Warren 19jun10 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=246496#Comment_246496 2010-06-21T19:59:34-07:00 2013-05-22T20:13:36-07:00 LBA http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=615 it had nothing to do with disfiguring Josh Brolin or even adding in Megan Fox, it was just not well written or if the original screenplay was well written it was cut and edited so it made no sense ...
examples - the mad Irishman with the Maori tribal tattoos on his chin that knew kung-fu - could have been interesting but they never explained him, not even a 2 line explanation at all - he just appeared as a hodgepodge of non sequiturs that made no sense

the pit-wrestling scene - it's like someone saw the Sherlock Holmes movie and said "We should add that into Jonah Hex, but have one of the wrestlers be like some kind of venomous snake-man who likes to run around on the wall and then bite people, that would be awesome!"

and "the weapon" I don't know - maybe some kind of even half assed explanation of what the triggering thing was would have been helpful. Even throw out something like "it's golden phosphorous" or something completely bullshit would have made it less annoying.

the way it was presented was just a hodge-podge of shit thrown together. I'm always hesitant to blame the writer and director because sometimes studios step in and force shit to be added but this was just a disjointed unintelligible mess of a movie - I think it was actually worse than Ghost Rider, and that is saying something.]]> Notes From Warren 19jun10 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=246502#Comment_246502 2010-06-21T20:44:44-07:00 2013-05-22T20:13:36-07:00 D.J. http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3196 Reposting from the Jonah Hex topic: The original directors of the films wrote the screenplay, and are the guys who did the Crank movies + Gamer. Not great movies by any stretch, but certainly ...
The original directors of the films wrote the screenplay, and are the guys who did the Crank movies + Gamer. Not great movies by any stretch, but certainly entertaining action flicks. Jonah Hex is a largely action-oriented comic, and they were clearly fans, so really they weren't bad choices to direct the movie. Then, at some point early in development, they left due to 'creative differences'. This could mean nothing, but it's a red flag.

The next anyone heard of the movie, they brought on Jimmy Hayward as the director, a guy who's only previous credit is Horton Hears A Who. Again, could mean nothing, but another red flag. Since then Megan Fox has been cast, they've done a bunch of reshoots and some other shenanigans have gone on. Then the trailer comes out and consists almost entirely of poor dialogue and explosions. I had high hopes for the film once. At this point, it's a coin toss as to whether I go see it.

Oh, and Megan Fox isn't that hot.

It's turns out those red flags weren't herrings.]]> Notes From Warren 19jun10 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=246521#Comment_246521 2010-06-21T22:38:32-07:00 2013-05-22T20:13:36-07:00 Tanuki http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5293 I was hoping this would take it's tone from Joe R. Lansdale's work or Deadwood but it seems they decided to remake Wild Wild West instead. Another lost opportunity.