Whitechapel - Notes From Warren 19jun10 Tue, 21 May 2013 07:17:36 -0700 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/ Lussumo Vanilla 1.1.4 & Feed Publisher Notes From Warren 19jun10 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=245951#Comment_245951 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=245951#Comment_245951 Sat, 19 Jun 2010 10:07:43 -0700 warrenellis cratered on arrival:

...newcomer Warner Bros' Jonah Hex already is such a flop that it's not even meeting the studio's low opening weekend expectation of $10M from 2,825 venues after it wasn't tracking. My sources say it opened to only $1.9M Friday and will be hard-pressed to get to even $6M this weekend. It also should drop to 6th place Sunday. As one Warner Bros exec said about the lesson learned; "You don't take a handsome actor and disgfigure him." The studio is so embarrassed that it took great pains to points out that the pic was greenlighted before Diane Nelson took over as DC Entertainment prez. About the cowboy with the disfigured face and legend that he can't be killed, a minor character in the DC Comics galaxy of stars, Jonah Hex was attempted on the cheap. The studio claims the final budget was $35M....

....(but) I hear Warner Bros cut the original budget of $80M to $40M right before production with no script changes. Then the studio did 70 pages of reshoots about 6 months ago. That may have added another $25M for a new budget of $65M. Ouch! As one insider tells me, "the studio looked at the movie a long time ago and wrote it off".
]]> Notes From Warren 19jun10 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=245955#Comment_245955 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=245955#Comment_245955 Sat, 19 Jun 2010 11:07:09 -0700 Renato França Notes From Warren 19jun10 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=245957#Comment_245957 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=245957#Comment_245957 Sat, 19 Jun 2010 11:13:45 -0700 ales kot Notes From Warren 19jun10 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=245961#Comment_245961 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=245961#Comment_245961 Sat, 19 Jun 2010 11:33:58 -0700 Ninewhilenine83
The best casting choices made in a while. ]]> Notes From Warren 19jun10 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=245964#Comment_245964 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=245964#Comment_245964 Sat, 19 Jun 2010 11:51:59 -0700 chris g killerrr, why not let him enjoy it.
I do want to hear the score by Mastodon though! ]]> Notes From Warren 19jun10 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=245965#Comment_245965 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=245965#Comment_245965 Sat, 19 Jun 2010 11:53:38 -0700 helloMuller Notes From Warren 19jun10 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=245973#Comment_245973 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=245973#Comment_245973 Sat, 19 Jun 2010 12:36:16 -0700 James Cunningham Notes From Warren 19jun10 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=245992#Comment_245992 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=245992#Comment_245992 Sat, 19 Jun 2010 14:19:13 -0700 xoxoroo
Also some people may think megan fox cannot act, but none of the men with me seemed too worried about that.

{Also we saw the A Team Last week and have already seen Ironman. Also, no one will see Toy Story with me :p} ]]> Notes From Warren 19jun10 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=246000#Comment_246000 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=246000#Comment_246000 Sat, 19 Jun 2010 14:46:30 -0700 Zeebo Notes From Warren 19jun10 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=246020#Comment_246020 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=246020#Comment_246020 Sat, 19 Jun 2010 15:34:31 -0700 Fauxhammer Notes From Warren 19jun10 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=246051#Comment_246051 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=246051#Comment_246051 Sat, 19 Jun 2010 17:26:44 -0700 kperkins Notes From Warren 19jun10 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=246091#Comment_246091 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=246091#Comment_246091 Sat, 19 Jun 2010 20:06:41 -0700 Andre Navarro As one Warner Bros exec said about the lesson learned; "You don't take a handsome actor and disgfigure him."

I haven't seen the film, but if that's what the exec considers a problem, then lesson not learned at all.

I expected JONAH HEX to be badly-received, but turns out that's a bit of an understatement now. Still not a surprise. This had all the ingredients of a flop for some time.

Meanwhile Pixar seems to have made yet another universally acclaimed movie (except for Armond White, of course). ]]> Notes From Warren 19jun10 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=246121#Comment_246121 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=246121#Comment_246121 Sat, 19 Jun 2010 22:14:07 -0700 KitsuneCaligari Notes From Warren 19jun10 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=246130#Comment_246130 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=246130#Comment_246130 Sat, 19 Jun 2010 22:30:59 -0700 MrSmite I also can't help but wonder if the real culprit is the marketing, since the box office take is so abysmal it's failing against films that opened two weeks ago. ]]> Notes From Warren 19jun10 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=246147#Comment_246147 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=246147#Comment_246147 Sun, 20 Jun 2010 00:52:06 -0700 Robson Notes From Warren 19jun10 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=246164#Comment_246164 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=246164#Comment_246164 Sun, 20 Jun 2010 03:28:59 -0700 manglr
I not sure why they'd go after a Jonah Hex movie in the first place as a property to cultivate from the DC library, but for pity's sake if you're going to do it at least be true to the source material and have a good script.

But then, I don't settle for mild brainless entertainment in my movies any longer. ]]> Notes From Warren 19jun10 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=246176#Comment_246176 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=246176#Comment_246176 Sun, 20 Jun 2010 06:10:39 -0700 William George Notes From Warren 19jun10 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=246243#Comment_246243 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=246243#Comment_246243 Sun, 20 Jun 2010 17:41:17 -0700 hectorlima
they should have done Hex like this indie western LAST RITES OF RANSOM PRIDE. ]]> Notes From Warren 19jun10 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=246253#Comment_246253 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=246253#Comment_246253 Sun, 20 Jun 2010 19:21:10 -0700 VietBong
Is this movie in any way loyal to the source material, much like Sin City or Watchmen tried to be, or did they pull another Constantine? ]]> Notes From Warren 19jun10 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=246416#Comment_246416 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=246416#Comment_246416 Mon, 21 Jun 2010 12:28:02 -0700 fod_xp
Women starring in westerns is instant win with me, hence why I loved that western movie starring Sharon Stone, Leonardo DiCaprio [dies by his father's own gun in a duel contest], Russell Crowe, and Gene Hackman, DiCaprio's father and the sick bastard that gave a gun to the little girl [Sharon Stone is her as an adult] and said if she could shoot the rope for the noose around her father's neck they both could live. Well she shot, but ended up shooting her own father in the head, and Gene Hackman and his posse ride off and laugh at her.

Then there's Ignition City, too. So yes, this movie has priority with me. ]]> Notes From Warren 19jun10 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=246421#Comment_246421 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=246421#Comment_246421 Mon, 21 Jun 2010 12:45:12 -0700 longtimelurker
You have to ask?

There is so much to laugh at in this endeavor. They stripped the budget and then ended up paying almost as much as originally budgeted! They put it in the marketplace with NO hard-R competition on a Father's Day--the one day of the year men get to do what they want to do, then water it down to PG-13 and remove the whole reason for seeing it. They cast Megan Fox as a prostitute and then kept her clothes on. (News flash: men and boys don't want to pay to see Ms. Fox with her clothes on! They didn't do it for JENNIFER'S BODY.) They tried to sell it as a Western at the same time RED DEAD REDEMPTION came out, which showed everyone what a real western looks like. They tried to sell it as a comic book movie the same time that THE A-TEAM came out, which is about as comic book a movie can be and it wasn't even based on a comic book! It actually qualifies as a weird occult tale and they COULD have sold it as that, since there's no competition for that right now... nah, that would have been honest. It wasn't even the darkest movie out this week; TOY STORY 3 was unbeLIEVably dark! And clocking in at 72 minutes... I like to escape from the heat and eat popcorn too, but at least make me need to get up to pee when the movie's over. MEN IN BLACK II was 88 minutes, and that was over before it started. This movie will be forgotten, but it needs to be remembered as a rare occasion when HOLLYWOOD did everything wrong and got what it deserved. ]]> Notes From Warren 19jun10 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=246422#Comment_246422 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=246422#Comment_246422 Mon, 21 Jun 2010 12:49:45 -0700 rickiep00h The Quick and the Dead, and I loved that one also. The absolutely insane shot of
The sun shining through the bullet hole in Gene Hackman
was utter garbage, but it fit into the feel of the movie so well I let it slide. It was just one of those moments my brain went "Oh that's badass" instead of "That would never happen." ]]> Notes From Warren 19jun10 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=246444#Comment_246444 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=246444#Comment_246444 Mon, 21 Jun 2010 15:45:34 -0700 Utopiacomplex ]]> Notes From Warren 19jun10 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=246445#Comment_246445 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=246445#Comment_246445 Mon, 21 Jun 2010 15:46:49 -0700 Utopiacomplex Notes From Warren 19jun10 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=246496#Comment_246496 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=246496#Comment_246496 Mon, 21 Jun 2010 19:59:34 -0700 LBA
examples - the mad Irishman with the Maori tribal tattoos on his chin that knew kung-fu - could have been interesting but they never explained him, not even a 2 line explanation at all - he just appeared as a hodgepodge of non sequiturs that made no sense

the pit-wrestling scene - it's like someone saw the Sherlock Holmes movie and said "We should add that into Jonah Hex, but have one of the wrestlers be like some kind of venomous snake-man who likes to run around on the wall and then bite people, that would be awesome!"

and "the weapon" I don't know - maybe some kind of even half assed explanation of what the triggering thing was would have been helpful. Even throw out something like "it's golden phosphorous" or something completely bullshit would have made it less annoying.

the way it was presented was just a hodge-podge of shit thrown together. I'm always hesitant to blame the writer and director because sometimes studios step in and force shit to be added but this was just a disjointed unintelligible mess of a movie - I think it was actually worse than Ghost Rider, and that is saying something. ]]> Notes From Warren 19jun10 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=246502#Comment_246502 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=246502#Comment_246502 Mon, 21 Jun 2010 20:44:44 -0700 D.J.
The original directors of the films wrote the screenplay, and are the guys who did the Crank movies + Gamer. Not great movies by any stretch, but certainly entertaining action flicks. Jonah Hex is a largely action-oriented comic, and they were clearly fans, so really they weren't bad choices to direct the movie. Then, at some point early in development, they left due to 'creative differences'. This could mean nothing, but it's a red flag.

The next anyone heard of the movie, they brought on Jimmy Hayward as the director, a guy who's only previous credit is Horton Hears A Who. Again, could mean nothing, but another red flag. Since then Megan Fox has been cast, they've done a bunch of reshoots and some other shenanigans have gone on. Then the trailer comes out and consists almost entirely of poor dialogue and explosions. I had high hopes for the film once. At this point, it's a coin toss as to whether I go see it.

Oh, and Megan Fox isn't that hot.

It's turns out those red flags weren't herrings. ]]> Notes From Warren 19jun10 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=246521#Comment_246521 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8431&Focus=246521#Comment_246521 Mon, 21 Jun 2010 22:38:32 -0700 Tanuki