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    • CommentTimeJul 1st 2010
    Damn, that is one hellacious trailer. After seeing that, I don't give a flying fuck that the film takes a different path than the book. I've got the latter, I'll get the former.
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    Ah, I see what you mean. I'm curious to hear how much of Bourne's international appeal you think is down to those films admitting that the American system is not fair, not nice, not in any way moral. Hollywood tried to recreate that formula with GREEN ZONE (which, unlike BOURNE, was based on ACTUAL events perpetrated by the American government) and it flopped. Too much reality, perhaps?

    I will readily admit much of the American audience can't handle RED yet (that's why I said they were ready for a "little" Moses, not a lot.) Warren's characters are at least twenty years ahead of their time. The smart actors in this cast must realize that it's a risk. If it only makes its money back, then it was a noble attempt. I say, don't insult the audience. Let the audience tell you what they can handle. Give them a little, and promise them more in the sequel....
    • CommentAuthorBankara
    • CommentTimeJul 2nd 2010
    No, my friend! We Americans are a truth loving nation! Green zone just sucked!

    No seriously, I think you are on to something here in that American audiences are not resistant to the fictionalized message of governmental wrongdoing as long as it is couched in a popcorn movie but when you try to make it a drama then people get uncomfortable. This is why I was surprised by the fact of RED getting made at all and when our Mr. Ellis started announcing the cast members on his site I was intrigued by the prospect of an action movie that had at its heart the disturbing message that our government's interference in other nations affairs could have repercussions would be a risky sell to an American audience. I hope that some of this is retained in the current version but I don't think it will be. It looks like it will be damn good though!
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    Well, the trailer does include Freeman (who played Mandela in INVICTUS) punching Dreyfuss (who played Cheney in W.) in the face, so I don't think they'll be COMPLETELY shying away from the political subtext...
    • CommentAuthor256
    • CommentTimeJul 2nd 2010
    I can see Arnold Schwarzenegger coming out of retirement for this.

    Retirement? He's been fairly busy.
    • CommentTimeJul 5th 2010
    Even knowing that the trailer had been released, I didn't realize that it was, in fact, Red when I saw it in the theater today until the word was across the screen. (I missed Bruce Willis referring to himself as "Moses")

    That said ... I thought it was absolutely hysterical and am very excited to see it. Much of this has been said: but I do wonder how well the darker "message" of the comic will leak through, though WE's stamp of approval gives me hope. Hopefully the humor will not mask the theme, and the ending will remain similar.

    Congrats again, Warren!
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    I was majorly excited when I watched the trailer. Haven't read the book yet (just ordered it from a place in the States, so should have it in a couple of weeks), but the film looks to be an amazing action romp - and I love a good action romp.

    But now I'm kind of interested in holding off on reading the book until after the movie is out... Purple Wyrm's idea sounds solid.
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    Deadline Hollywood are reporting that Warren will be on a panel at ComicCon with Bruce Willis and Helen Mirren.
    Can you confirm this Warren? And if so, are you going to fight The Bruce for the seat next to Dame Mirren?
    • CommentTimeJul 8th 2010 edited
    Double post. Ignore
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    I am at SDCC for a whole hour this year, yes.
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    Make sure you get a case of that Black Blood of the Earth as part of your contract. You'll need the pure caffeine to stay alive despite the Con Flu Germ attack.
    • CommentTimeAug 4th 2010 edited
    Video of Warren talking about RED at SDCC:
    • CommentTimeAug 4th 2010
    Well.... Looks pretty fine action-comedy, but i'm not sure I'd give it a huge amount of time if I didn't know the comic. I mean, it'd make it's way under my snobbery radar eventually, probably when I was deciding to utterly rot my brain one Sunday, but I'm not sure I'd be rushing out to buy a ticket.
    Still... John Malkovich being completely mental does tend to sell me, as does Helen Mirren with fuck-off automatics.

    I think the only thing which really puts me off is the rebranding of Red as "Retired Extremely Dangerous" - seeing as the arrangement of red and green was a great part of Hamners style, at least on the covers. I'm not sure why, but the rejigging of as beautiful a technical construction into a catchy acronym annoys me.