Whitechapel - The End of Zuda 2013-05-21T21:59:59-07:00 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/ Lussumo Vanilla & Feed Publisher The End of Zuda http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8494&Focus=248238#Comment_248238 2010-07-01T09:40:48-07:00 2010-07-01T09:41:18-07:00 Sobreiro http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3279 Oh, man, I and the other creators are still waiting for more info on this, but Zudacomics.com will go down today: Via the Zuda Blog. Wow.
Via the Zuda Blog.

Wow.]]> The End of Zuda http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8494&Focus=248240#Comment_248240 2010-07-01T09:50:04-07:00 2013-05-21T21:59:59-07:00 warrenellis http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2 Yeah, I just caught this ten minutes ago, am talking with Molly in email right now. The End of Zuda http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8494&Focus=248243#Comment_248243 2010-07-01T09:56:45-07:00 2010-07-01T09:57:06-07:00 warrenellis http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2 Molly and Leavitt's PUPPET MAKERS is surviving through to DC Digital. The End of Zuda http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8494&Focus=248246#Comment_248246 2010-07-01T10:02:14-07:00 2013-05-21T21:59:59-07:00 texture http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1472 RIP Zuda, what a brilliant run they had! Some of the most exciting new comics and creators of the last few years have come from the site. It will be sorely missed. Glad some bits and pieces are ... The End of Zuda http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8494&Focus=248248#Comment_248248 2010-07-01T10:12:17-07:00 2013-05-21T21:59:59-07:00 Brendan McGinley http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=93 Ah, I'll miss it. It was a good bunch of people and a noble project for a big corporation to undertake. The End of Zuda http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8494&Focus=248249#Comment_248249 2010-07-01T10:12:27-07:00 2013-05-21T21:59:59-07:00 kperkins http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=456 Major suckage. Sorry for the creators. The End of Zuda http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8494&Focus=248252#Comment_248252 2010-07-01T10:24:52-07:00 2013-05-21T21:59:59-07:00 Alberto http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5128 This is bad news for webcomics creators and fans. Again, best of luck to all those affected. The End of Zuda http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8494&Focus=248259#Comment_248259 2010-07-01T11:09:46-07:00 2013-05-21T21:59:59-07:00 BryanRichmond http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2791 Wow. That's a major downer. Hope the creators find new homes. I particularly loved Bayou a great deal. The End of Zuda http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8494&Focus=248263#Comment_248263 2010-07-01T11:38:56-07:00 2013-05-21T21:59:59-07:00 Allen http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1054 That's a shame, at least there will be some form of continuation. Though I hope everything becomes available to read again soon, outside of the apps, I have no applicable i technology or a PSP. The End of Zuda http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8494&Focus=248272#Comment_248272 2010-07-01T12:14:11-07:00 2010-07-01T17:11:12-07:00 Sobreiro http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3279 Bayou, High Moon and several others (including Earthbuilders!) will continue through the deal DC made with comiXology, they'll be available for ipod/ipad/psp (not to mention that some Zuda titles are ... The End of Zuda http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8494&Focus=248281#Comment_248281 2010-07-01T13:24:32-07:00 2013-05-21T21:59:59-07:00 gzapata http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4899 To be honest I had somewhat suspected this would occur. First there was only so much money and room they had using the competition before they'd end up with way more titles than they could handle on ...
I also hope they don't continue with that program they used as a reader. I didn't like it very much and felt they could've done better]]> The End of Zuda http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8494&Focus=248301#Comment_248301 2010-07-01T16:08:07-07:00 2010-07-01T16:08:48-07:00 256 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4827 RIP Zuda, what a brilliant run they had! a noble projectMajor suckagebad news for webcomics creatorsa shame I may have missed something important - wasn't there a time, not so long ago, that Zuda ... RIP Zuda, what a brilliant run they had!
a noble project
Major suckage
bad news for webcomics creators
a shame

I may have missed something important - wasn't there a time, not so long ago, that Zuda was The Great Satan of webcomics? I remember specifically terms like "IP theft" and "rape" being used to describe their business practices and contracts in particular.

If the Zuda story has reached its conclusion, can someone who knows look back and tell us the plot? I'd like to know.]]> The End of Zuda http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8494&Focus=248331#Comment_248331 2010-07-01T20:29:53-07:00 2013-05-21T21:59:59-07:00 Brendan McGinley http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=93 I never had a complaint about it. Zuda brought me a little money, a lot of attention, and digital distribution through an Image studio for what I understand to be similar terms to what Vertigo ...
*which is why I submitted a historical epic.]]> The End of Zuda http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8494&Focus=248334#Comment_248334 2010-07-01T21:20:49-07:00 2013-05-21T21:59:59-07:00 Jigsy Q http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3090 They gave me three shots at the brass ring, so I can't knock them. Sorry to see it go. It was a great outlet for talent. The End of Zuda http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8494&Focus=248349#Comment_248349 2010-07-02T00:45:34-07:00 2013-05-21T21:59:59-07:00 frequentcontributor http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5064 I did like reading through most months of the competitions, even though none of my favorites ended up winning... and I never really kept up with any of the winning strips after the initial 8 pages... ... The End of Zuda http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8494&Focus=248355#Comment_248355 2010-07-02T01:49:03-07:00 2013-05-21T21:59:59-07:00 helloMuller http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=560 It was a decent experiment I think. Without a doubt it created great opportunities for a lot of creators, and there was really good stuff pushed through Zuda. But the whole voting system and ...
But the whole voting system and especially the user experience of the site was lofty at best, misguided at worst. The Zuda viewer was pretty much a sluggish box of spanners. I hope DC have learned valuable lessons from it (I'm sure they have).

I'm curious what DC Digital will bring.]]> The End of Zuda http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8494&Focus=248359#Comment_248359 2010-07-02T02:54:36-07:00 2013-05-21T21:59:59-07:00 Audley Strange http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4475 I'm genuinely surprised it lasted as long as it did. I remember one of my friends suggesting I get involved, but I never warmed to it, thought it was a folly. I have to admit there was some amazing ...
Still it was a bold venture.]]> The End of Zuda http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8494&Focus=248360#Comment_248360 2010-07-02T02:56:59-07:00 2013-05-21T21:59:59-07:00 Will Ellwood http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2556 I agree with helloMuller and Audley Strange here. Nice idea, but hobbled by the voting aspect and the interface to the point where I never took a proper look at it. It's a shame for those involved ...
It's a shame for those involved though. I wonder what this means contractually for projects that were on going.]]> The End of Zuda http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8494&Focus=248463#Comment_248463 2010-07-02T12:18:56-07:00 2013-05-21T21:59:59-07:00 Mister Andersen http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2745 Bugger. Anyone got any idea what's going to happen to Azure? The End of Zuda http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8494&Focus=248558#Comment_248558 2010-07-02T19:59:56-07:00 2013-05-21T21:59:59-07:00 Richard Pace http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=320 A number of the strips have been picked up to make the trip -- based on popularity I'd be very surprised if AZURE isn't one of them. I followed Zuda pretty closely, some months more than others ...
I followed Zuda pretty closely, some months more than others since I tried my hand at blogging about them for a bit. There'd usually be one or two worth giving a shot out of the ten, though they rarely won -- which is pretty much why I stopped writing about it. There was no point to criticism, even the mean, casual sort I engaged in, if you can get pretty much everyone with a computer in your regional backwater to sign up long enough to help you win then never return to the web site again.

I talked to a number of pros who liked the idea of paid weekly webcomics, but wouldn't waste their time with the Zuda process. It was a case of being the big guy getting into a scrap with a small guy; you win and you're an asshole for beating up a little guy; you lose, you're an asshole because you got beat up by a little guy.

That, and I don't a working pro who could essentially take a month off to promote a moderately well-paying webstrip gig you might get.

I was surprised as much as many of the people working on Zuda were -- the end of the contest was announced as part of a new direction for Zuda going forward. It went as far forward as the end.

I joked on Facebook about starting a dead pool for Wildstorm and Vertigo, but I do think one or both are at risk or already on way out under the new management structure. Wildstorm is the more likely victim; a simple re-branding of the offices as DC, West Coast and you're done. I think most of the production there is tied up on DC projects already and the super hero comics are just a hypertime Superboy punch away from being folded into the DCU.

Vertigo would be a harder task -- the only DC books I buy are Vertigo books, but DC's been clawing back characters and cutting titles.

Looking at the DCU is pretty bleak. There's really nothing there that's particularly interesting for me as either a reader or artist. I'm old enough to have been reading when the first Crisis came out; it's intent to simplify and streamline the DCU. Decades and several Crises later it's even more complicated and convoluted.

Maybe I'm just old and not drunk enough yet to have not bothered typing the above.]]> The End of Zuda http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8494&Focus=248626#Comment_248626 2010-07-03T09:52:58-07:00 2013-05-21T21:59:59-07:00 ales kot http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4375 I don't see Wildstorm going anywhere for a long, long time. Two words: Movie adaptations. The End of Zuda http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8494&Focus=248628#Comment_248628 2010-07-03T09:57:01-07:00 2013-05-21T21:59:59-07:00 gzapata http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4899 @ales kot- agreed though a bit saddening as Wildstorm was once the place to go for superheroes that lived in a world where things actually...happened. Still no clue when the change occurred from the ... The End of Zuda http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8494&Focus=248635#Comment_248635 2010-07-03T10:27:27-07:00 2013-05-21T21:59:59-07:00 Richard Pace http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=320 The license for the movie adaptations ultimately comes out of DC's budget, so there's no argument for the imprint living any longer there. The End of Zuda http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8494&Focus=248657#Comment_248657 2010-07-03T14:26:15-07:00 2010-07-03T14:29:29-07:00 ales kot http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4375 @Richard Pace: Looking at WildStorm as the third leg of the whole publishing section, over the past few years we've seen a real growth in licensed material there, starting with the video game ...

Looking at WildStorm as the third leg of the whole publishing section, over the past few years we've seen a real growth in licensed material there, starting with the video game stuff people seem so familiar with to projects like "Fringe" and "X-Files." Do you see that as the direction that imprint will continue to move in on the whole?

Lee: There was a conscious decision years ago, as the DCU material became edgier and Vertigo started experimenting with things that felt more superhero-ish, WildStorm no longer occupied that middle ground. And as we were working on DC Universe Online, we saw an opportunity where DC was not involved in a lot of licensed books. We're seeing a lot of traction amongst comic book readers for that type of material. Some of the best-selling books of recent years have been some of these licensed books that WildStorm has developed and put out. When we did that "Heroes" trade, that was a huge seller for us, and it showed us the potential for when you find the kind of license that attracts the same kind of reader you have for comics of really scoring a home run and building a publishing business out of that. So we really pick up the licenses that we're fans of, and it's been a great opportunity to play with the stuff we enjoy as fans ourselves. So it's opened a lot of doors, and the successes have built upon themselves where we have people with very cool projects on their own coming to us and saying, "Can you make this a comic book?" It's been a positive direction for WildStorm, and we hope to continue with that.


http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=26795]]> The End of Zuda http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8494&Focus=248659#Comment_248659 2010-07-03T14:43:29-07:00 2013-05-21T21:59:59-07:00 warrenellis http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2 I don't see Wildstorm going anywhere for a long, long time. Two words: Movie adaptations. I understand that there are plans for redevelopment and more media tie-in books at Wildstorm. (On the ... I don't see Wildstorm going anywhere for a long, long time. Two words: Movie adaptations.

I understand that there are plans for redevelopment and more media tie-in books at Wildstorm.

(On the other hand, China Mieville was deep into writing SWAMP THING when DC killed the book, and it cost them money to do that, so...)]]> The End of Zuda http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8494&Focus=248663#Comment_248663 2010-07-03T15:47:48-07:00 2013-05-21T21:59:59-07:00 ales kot http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4375 @warrenellis: Do you have anything you can share regarding the situation at Vertigo? I don't mean Swamp Thing, but the overall picture.
Do you have anything you can share regarding the situation at Vertigo? I don't mean Swamp Thing, but the overall picture.]]> The End of Zuda http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8494&Focus=248668#Comment_248668 2010-07-03T16:27:33-07:00 2013-05-21T21:59:59-07:00 warrenellis http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2 Nothing I'd want to share, no. Also, I'm pretty distant from the whole thing. The End of Zuda http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8494&Focus=248670#Comment_248670 2010-07-03T17:08:08-07:00 2013-05-21T21:59:59-07:00 Richard Pace http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=320 If it becomes purely a licensing imprint, then there's no value in the Wildstorm brand since what it's publishing has no coherence to any other thing it publishes. Renaming it DC Media or some-such ...
As a purely licensed imprint it would be easier for retailers to know how to order the books, so it's savvy business, but it's a hollow shell that no longer contains the Wildstorm Universe titles or Homage creator-owned projects, making the name pointless.

Not saying I want to see it fold, some great comics came out of there, but it's something I wouldn't be surprised to see happen based on recent history.]]> The End of Zuda http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8494&Focus=248679#Comment_248679 2010-07-03T18:45:12-07:00 2013-05-21T21:59:59-07:00 helloMuller http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=560 so there's no argument for the imprint living any longer there. As long as the imprint sells enough (*good*) comics it'll stay alive: brand recognition. Same with Vertigo I'd believe. (Don't ... so there's no argument for the imprint living any longer there.

As long as the imprint sells enough (*good*) comics it'll stay alive: brand recognition. Same with Vertigo I'd believe.

(Don't listen to me, I know nooothing)]]> The End of Zuda http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8494&Focus=248689#Comment_248689 2010-07-03T20:27:22-07:00 2013-05-21T21:59:59-07:00 0neiromancer http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5802 I think Wildstorm still has the value of getting the random passerby that was a comic reader in the 90's that strolls into a shop to pick up their books not knowing it's now DC owned. I have ... 90's that strolls into a shop to pick up their books not knowing it's now DC owned. I have some
friends from high school that wouldn't touch anything with the DC bullet, but would probably
pick up and flip through something with the Wildstorm logo.

As for Zuda. I just finished my 8 pages. I'm not too sad, but I am pretty frustrated that
I've now got 8 pages of my best work in a format that isn't really suitable to any publisher.
The silver lining being that it looks damn fantastic on an iPad, and I'm sure we'll see ALL
publishers looking to push more digitally exclusive content.]]> The End of Zuda http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8494&Focus=248821#Comment_248821 2010-07-04T20:23:01-07:00 2013-05-21T21:59:59-07:00 costa_k http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=6592 I've found some great random surprises from Wildstorm, I think it's a great branch for one-off projects, "vanity" books and miniseries, continuing stuff like WILDCATS, etc. Also, if ...
Also, if what senor Ellis is saying is true about doing tie-ins at Wildstorm, I guess that'd be like IDW's comic adaptations of IP's like their 30 DAYS OF NIGHT and GI JOE titles? I'd be down with that.]]> The End of Zuda http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8494&Focus=248826#Comment_248826 2010-07-04T21:24:25-07:00 2013-05-21T21:59:59-07:00 ales kot http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4375 30 DAYS OF NIGHT / X-FILES crossover is already happening. The End of Zuda http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8494&Focus=248887#Comment_248887 2010-07-05T09:47:07-07:00 2013-05-21T21:59:59-07:00 Richard Pace http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=320 ZUDA update at Newsarama. Looks like a pretty classy manner of shutting things down, all things considered. Newsarama.

Looks like a pretty classy manner of shutting things down, all things considered.]]> The End of Zuda http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8494&Focus=249039#Comment_249039 2010-07-06T12:56:31-07:00 2010-07-06T13:42:54-07:00 Adam Lucas http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2623 I made Goldilock for Zuda. Unfortunately it doesn't look like they're keeping any series that hadn't made it to the 40 page mark except for instant winners. I could be wrong but that seems to be the ...
If anything I'm thankful for the run I did get. A lot of series are being left behind that never got a chance to even start. At only 20 pages I already had over 100,000 views and was recieving some great feedback from fans and creators alike. I met some awesome people through Zuda and the community will be missed.

Now I just have to decide to try and salvage Goldilock or try something else.

I'll still be here reading FA!]]> The End of Zuda http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8494&Focus=249057#Comment_249057 2010-07-06T13:29:45-07:00 2013-05-21T21:59:59-07:00 Sobreiro http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3279 Goldilock is spectacular and personally I'll be reading it in any format you publish it in, Adam! The End of Zuda http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8494&Focus=249058#Comment_249058 2010-07-06T13:43:41-07:00 2010-07-06T13:44:09-07:00 Adam Lucas http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2623 Thanks Sobreiro! Good luck to you too. For those that want to check out some of my art can do so here: http://konjur.deviantart.com/ Or here: www.bathrobekimono.com and my twitter is ...
For those that want to check out some of my art can do so here: http://konjur.deviantart.com/
Or here: www.bathrobekimono.com
and my twitter is @siradamlucas

Ps: Luke is king.]]> The End of Zuda http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8494&Focus=249067#Comment_249067 2010-07-06T15:17:22-07:00 2013-05-21T21:59:59-07:00 tcatsninfan http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3901 The greatest thing about this thread is that I'm finding a lot of great artists and am starting to follow them on Twitter. I was never big on Zuda. The main thing is I always felt like everyone ...
I was never big on Zuda. The main thing is I always felt like everyone wasn't getting a fair shake...just not enough pages to make a truly great comic.

Here's a similar question to one I asked in a standalone thread but never got any sort of response: What's to stop the fallen Zuda warriors from publishing their comics on the iPad? What does it take to publish a comic app on the iPad?

I don't have an iPad, which is why I'm a little confused about the whole process. But here's a sample scenario, let me know where I'm missing pieces.

Comic creator finds an iPad app developer. Creator pays app developer a small flat fee up front and a percentage of the money that's made from the app. Release the app for free and have the first issue of the comic included in the free app. Then, every month the creator would release a new "issue" that users could download from inside the app for $1 or however much he/she wants to charge.

The app's price (free) would encourage people to at least give it a shot, and once they get interested in the first issue then they wouldn't mind paying $1 for every issue afterward...$1 isn't much of an investment, especially if you're getting a good story and artwork.

So umm...can it be done like that or are there some technical limitations that I'm missing? I realize the hardest part about releasing an app is marketing it and getting people interested, but even still it seems like that sort of scenario would be very advantageous for comic creators.]]> The End of Zuda http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8494&Focus=249208#Comment_249208 2010-07-07T11:44:01-07:00 2013-05-21T21:59:59-07:00 davebaxter http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2690 Hey, everyone, Big news: we're putting together a major new alternative to ZUDA that's going to go farther than ZUDA ever did, and it should be ready and announced in the matter of a few weeks to ...
Big news: we're putting together a major new alternative to ZUDA that's going to go farther than ZUDA ever did, and it should be ready and announced in the matter of a few weeks to a month. It's all coming through a new company called KILLING THE GRIZZLY (of which I'm a part) and we sent out our first big PR this morning, which you can read here:

Comic Production and Promotion on a Whole New Level - http://eepurl.com/GZfz

We're talking about the ability to fully fund a graphic work, find actual producers and/or crowd source fund, digital distribution through all viable channels, as well as Diamond distribution and bookstore distribution and the option to be agented to traditional publishers. It's not going to be a competition structure; it's purely talent based, insofar as something that borderline subjective can ever be the case. I'm going to start a thread here following the evolution of this, so please, come check it out. It's going to be awesome :D]]> The End of Zuda http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8494&Focus=249240#Comment_249240 2010-07-07T15:01:24-07:00 2013-05-21T21:59:59-07:00 tcatsninfan http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3901 @davebaxter I can't help but feel like your Zuda alternative sounds better now in theory then it will turn out in reality. The easiest way to sum up my feelings is this: If this thing is going to ...
I can't help but feel like your Zuda alternative sounds better now in theory then it will turn out in reality. The easiest way to sum up my feelings is this: If this thing is going to be so awesome, then why hasn't it been done by now?

You don't go right out and say this but you make it sound like this thing is going to be as big as (or bigger than) Zuda. That's all well and good but I just...I don't know. I feel like some of the things you mentioned are very vague and, thus, can be open to interpretation and should have asterisks next to them.

For example, you mention having the ability to "fully fund a graphic work" but there's no indication of the actual monetary amount. You mention that it's not a competition like Zuda but you don't say how works will be chosen. You mention "digital distribution through all viable channels", but do you really mean ALL DD channels, i.e. PC's, Macs, iPhones, iPads, Android devices, PSP's, etc. or is the word "viable" open to your company's interpretation.

There aren't enough details about it right now, so I'll definitely admit that my initial reaction right now may turn out to be unfounded. I'll be interested to see how it turns out. I look forward to reading more about it on the dedicated thread.]]> The End of Zuda http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8494&Focus=249252#Comment_249252 2010-07-07T16:41:42-07:00 2013-05-21T21:59:59-07:00 davebaxter http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2690 @tcatsninfan - That's all normal as hell feelings to have. This day and age especially, there's a new "Changes Everything" concept every day, and wow, not much actually changes, does ...
Do keep in mind though that I'm claiming this to be an ALTERNATIVE, not outright replacement to ZUDA, and I think that'll prove to be the case. Personally, I think out set-up will go well beyond what ZUDA did, and not be nearly so worrisome contractually. It's a very different beast but does plug the ZUDA hole (is that like a black hole?) currently being felt on the interwubs. Anywho, more info I just posted on the "DEATH OF ZUDA" thread. I'll post the final version of that info here when it's a bit more cemented.]]> The End of Zuda http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8494&Focus=249253#Comment_249253 2010-07-07T16:44:32-07:00 2013-05-21T21:59:59-07:00 davebaxter http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2690 @tcatsninfan - I should also apologize for the initial vagueness, it's definitely intentional. Posting everything about this new enterprise in one go would make everyone's eyes glaze over. Better ... The End of Zuda http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8494&Focus=249265#Comment_249265 2010-07-07T19:15:16-07:00 2010-07-08T12:20:03-07:00 Richard Pace http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=320 EDITED FOR MEANINGLESS BITCHING. -- W The End of Zuda http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8494&Focus=249374#Comment_249374 2010-07-08T11:27:58-07:00 2013-05-21T21:59:59-07:00 gzapata http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4899 Any thoughts on this article and company- graphic.ly graphic.ly]]> The End of Zuda http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8494&Focus=249385#Comment_249385 2010-07-08T12:48:11-07:00 2013-05-21T21:59:59-07:00 davebaxter http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2690 Graphic.ly is great - they're a competitor with Longbox and ComiXology, though they boast a much more robust relationship with their community. The deviantArt page for ZUDA creators they announce in ...