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      CommentAuthorSobreiro
    • CommentTimeJul 1st 2010 edited
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    Oh, man, I and the other creators are still waiting for more info on this, but Zudacomics.com will go down today:

    Via the Zuda Blog.

    Wow.
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    Yeah, I just caught this ten minutes ago, am talking with Molly in email right now.
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      CommentAuthorwarrenellis
    • CommentTimeJul 1st 2010 edited
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    Molly and Leavitt's PUPPET MAKERS is surviving through to DC Digital.
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      CommentAuthortexture
    • CommentTimeJul 1st 2010
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    RIP Zuda, what a brilliant run they had! Some of the most exciting new comics and creators of the last few years have come from the site. It will be sorely missed. Glad some bits and pieces are surviving and evolving.
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    Ah, I'll miss it. It was a good bunch of people and a noble project for a big corporation to undertake.
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      CommentAuthorkperkins
    • CommentTimeJul 1st 2010
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    Major suckage. Sorry for the creators.
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      CommentAuthorAlberto
    • CommentTimeJul 1st 2010
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    This is bad news for webcomics creators and fans. Again, best of luck to all those affected.
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    Wow. That's a major downer. Hope the creators find new homes. I particularly loved Bayou a great deal.
    • CommentAuthorAllen
    • CommentTimeJul 1st 2010
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    That's a shame, at least there will be some form of continuation. Though I hope everything becomes available to read again soon, outside of the apps, I have no applicable i technology or a PSP.
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      CommentAuthorSobreiro
    • CommentTimeJul 1st 2010 edited
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    Bayou, High Moon and several others (including Earthbuilders!) will continue through the deal DC made with comiXology, they'll be available for ipod/ipad/psp (not to mention that some Zuda titles are already on print)...
    • CommentAuthorgzapata
    • CommentTimeJul 1st 2010
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    To be honest I had somewhat suspected this would occur. First there was only so much money and room they had using the competition before they'd end up with way more titles than they could handle on a regular basis. Then with the announcement of DC finally going digital itself it was only a matter of time before they began folding their platform together. In the long run I think it'll be better for DC and zuda creators as it'll help new readers see a variety of genres and stories to choose from outside of superman and batman that fall under the DC banner.

    I also hope they don't continue with that program they used as a reader. I didn't like it very much and felt they could've done better
    • CommentAuthor256
    • CommentTimeJul 1st 2010 edited
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    RIP Zuda, what a brilliant run they had!
    a noble project
    Major suckage
    bad news for webcomics creators
    a shame

    I may have missed something important - wasn't there a time, not so long ago, that Zuda was The Great Satan of webcomics? I remember specifically terms like "IP theft" and "rape" being used to describe their business practices and contracts in particular.

    If the Zuda story has reached its conclusion, can someone who knows look back and tell us the plot? I'd like to know.
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    I never had a complaint about it. Zuda brought me a little money, a lot of attention, and digital distribution through an Image studio for what I understand to be similar terms to what Vertigo creators get. You just had to know what you were signing away if you won*, which, yes, could be a more favorable deal, but I haven't heard any of the winners complaining.

    *which is why I submitted a historical epic.
    • CommentAuthorJigsy Q
    • CommentTimeJul 1st 2010
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    They gave me three shots at the brass ring, so I can't knock them. Sorry to see it go. It was a great outlet for talent.
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    I did like reading through most months of the competitions, even though none of my favorites ended up winning... and I never really kept up with any of the winning strips after the initial 8 pages... Hopefully the creators can still make their comics, but it did seem like a weird business model from the get-go.
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    It was a decent experiment I think. Without a doubt it created great opportunities for a lot of creators, and there was really good stuff pushed through Zuda.

    But the whole voting system and especially the user experience of the site was lofty at best, misguided at worst. The Zuda viewer was pretty much a sluggish box of spanners. I hope DC have learned valuable lessons from it (I'm sure they have).

    I'm curious what DC Digital will bring.
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    I'm genuinely surprised it lasted as long as it did. I remember one of my friends suggesting I get involved, but I never warmed to it, thought it was a folly. I have to admit there was some amazing work by some really talented people on there but it did seem to me to be too much like a comics X-factor.

    Still it was a bold venture.
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    I agree with helloMuller and Audley Strange here. Nice idea, but hobbled by the voting aspect and the interface to the point where I never took a proper look at it.

    It's a shame for those involved though. I wonder what this means contractually for projects that were on going.
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    Bugger. Anyone got any idea what's going to happen to Azure?
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    A number of the strips have been picked up to make the trip -- based on popularity I'd be very surprised if AZURE isn't one of them.

    I followed Zuda pretty closely, some months more than others since I tried my hand at blogging about them for a bit. There'd usually be one or two worth giving a shot out of the ten, though they rarely won -- which is pretty much why I stopped writing about it. There was no point to criticism, even the mean, casual sort I engaged in, if you can get pretty much everyone with a computer in your regional backwater to sign up long enough to help you win then never return to the web site again.

    I talked to a number of pros who liked the idea of paid weekly webcomics, but wouldn't waste their time with the Zuda process. It was a case of being the big guy getting into a scrap with a small guy; you win and you're an asshole for beating up a little guy; you lose, you're an asshole because you got beat up by a little guy.

    That, and I don't a working pro who could essentially take a month off to promote a moderately well-paying webstrip gig you might get.

    I was surprised as much as many of the people working on Zuda were -- the end of the contest was announced as part of a new direction for Zuda going forward. It went as far forward as the end.

    I joked on Facebook about starting a dead pool for Wildstorm and Vertigo, but I do think one or both are at risk or already on way out under the new management structure. Wildstorm is the more likely victim; a simple re-branding of the offices as DC, West Coast and you're done. I think most of the production there is tied up on DC projects already and the super hero comics are just a hypertime Superboy punch away from being folded into the DCU.

    Vertigo would be a harder task -- the only DC books I buy are Vertigo books, but DC's been clawing back characters and cutting titles.

    Looking at the DCU is pretty bleak. There's really nothing there that's particularly interesting for me as either a reader or artist. I'm old enough to have been reading when the first Crisis came out; it's intent to simplify and streamline the DCU. Decades and several Crises later it's even more complicated and convoluted.

    Maybe I'm just old and not drunk enough yet to have not bothered typing the above.