Whitechapel - FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 Fri, 24 May 2013 13:12:42 -0700 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/ Lussumo Vanilla 1.1.4 & Feed Publisher FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248367#Comment_248367 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248367#Comment_248367 Fri, 02 Jul 2010 04:06:18 -0700 Ariana FREAKANGELS.

Good morning, Whitechapel. How's everyone? ]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248368#Comment_248368 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248368#Comment_248368 Fri, 02 Jul 2010 04:09:44 -0700 curb
Nice to see some of the Whitechapel residents out and about, surveying the detritus. What must they think of the bloodstains and wreckage, I wonder? ]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248370#Comment_248370 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248370#Comment_248370 Fri, 02 Jul 2010 04:21:05 -0700 Purple Wyrm
On the upside I got Summer Glau's autograph at the local yearly nerdfest and had a conversation about Warren's World Cup commentary with a cute girl I bought the first three Transmetropolitan trades from (shameful to admit I've never read them before - rather disturbingly I seem to have had a Spider Jerusalem shaped hole in my brain just waiting for him to drop into). I also found a cheap Global Frequency trade at a discount booksale I staggered into this afternoon. (I shan't discuss the puppy-kicking shit)

Poor Connor. Poor angsty Connor. Someone should tell him that running away is the easy answer (and that Luke's not dead, that might be important...)

Also - pigs! ]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248372#Comment_248372 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248372#Comment_248372 Fri, 02 Jul 2010 04:28:24 -0700 texture
Had a great week creatively - we've got webcomics on my site now, which is a long-term ambition starting to get fulfilled. This makes me happy. ]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248373#Comment_248373 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248373#Comment_248373 Fri, 02 Jul 2010 04:44:54 -0700 badbear
Also, how did those Highland cows get to London from Scotland? And why are they so much cooler than all other types of cows? ]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248374#Comment_248374 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248374#Comment_248374 Fri, 02 Jul 2010 04:55:19 -0700 Alienist
I like that the emerging people are finding blood and mayhem everywhere and they act shocked. ]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248376#Comment_248376 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248376#Comment_248376 Fri, 02 Jul 2010 05:11:32 -0700 draxxx FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248377#Comment_248377 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248377#Comment_248377 Fri, 02 Jul 2010 05:13:11 -0700 thud
Poor Connor- he believes in something that might be a notch or two higher on the moral scale.
Will he change if he learns the latest information on their FreakAngel-ism? ]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248378#Comment_248378 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248378#Comment_248378 Fri, 02 Jul 2010 05:19:05 -0700 Berserker
Yes, that panel of Arkady is pretty much the cutest thing ever.

Also, on page 1, panel 4 - do two of those people look a bit like Karl and Jack to anyone else? I saw that and thought: "Holy shit, Kait's got them on work detail already?" ]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248380#Comment_248380 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248380#Comment_248380 Fri, 02 Jul 2010 05:58:41 -0700 dddrum texture refers to "the silent panels" (which would make a great title for a novel), but our brains, trained on the cinema, tend to provide a soundtrack.

I heard the Moody Blues' Another Morning behind this pastoral village scene (with a few ominous chords rising up against it when the sidewalk splat was discovered, and some cold echoey reverb when we saw the flooded torture pit). Of course, I am inconceivably old, and the Moodies are unlikely to be quite the same cultural touchstone to you li'l bitty kids. So here is a question:

Did you hear soundtrack music, and if so, what was it? ]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248382#Comment_248382 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248382#Comment_248382 Fri, 02 Jul 2010 06:08:31 -0700 Purple Wyrm Blue Plaques above the windows on page one, frames one and two?

(And if so is it the one on Ashfield Street?) ]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248383#Comment_248383 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248383#Comment_248383 Fri, 02 Jul 2010 06:19:07 -0700 cjtremlett
I don't know if I want to hug Connor or smack him. And is Sirkka naked sitting there on her bed being miserable? She needs something like the equivalent of the kick in the crotch that Jack got, courtesy of Kait. (Y'know, Freakangels really lends itself to alliteration.) If part of their angstiness is due to FAs killing FAs, hey, nobody's actually dead. Or at least didn't stay that way. I do wonder why nobody's walked off out of sheer annoyance with the others before now. Though of course, somebody could have, and then come back.

And cows! Highland cows! They're cool. I read the other day in National Geographic how scientists are trying to bring back the aurochs starting with cows that have aurochs genes, which includes Highland cows. ]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248384#Comment_248384 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248384#Comment_248384 Fri, 02 Jul 2010 06:21:47 -0700 longtimelurker
Swine, swine!

Back to work, you drones, I bet you don't even get paid.

Ah, Sirkka. The big bed's not enough to keep you warm, is it?

No drugs allowed on the job, Alice!

Connor, look at yourself. You're yelling at a kitten. ]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248386#Comment_248386 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248386#Comment_248386 Fri, 02 Jul 2010 06:30:40 -0700 rickiep00h
I mean, it was hyperbole, right? ]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248389#Comment_248389 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248389#Comment_248389 Fri, 02 Jul 2010 06:48:48 -0700 twitch_ramirez i know} make an appearance. I must admit, the wreckage just laying there was so sad. I really really hope that is either fixed or we get a V.2 with some
awesome upgrades. Just have to see!

Hanging in there. Each day has it's own difficulty; however, I manage. ]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248390#Comment_248390 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248390#Comment_248390 Fri, 02 Jul 2010 06:48:59 -0700 longtimelurker
"I got ya no drugs rightcheer ya fookin pissflap!" ]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248395#Comment_248395 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248395#Comment_248395 Fri, 02 Jul 2010 07:29:19 -0700 Jenny Creed FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248396#Comment_248396 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248396#Comment_248396 Fri, 02 Jul 2010 07:33:09 -0700 longtimelurker
Well, Sirkka did say that he hadn't been laid in a while...

A Connor/Arkady hookup would be too adorable. The computer screen would explode into feathers and rainbows. ]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248397#Comment_248397 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248397#Comment_248397 Fri, 02 Jul 2010 07:35:53 -0700 Val A Lindsay II FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248398#Comment_248398 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248398#Comment_248398 Fri, 02 Jul 2010 07:41:30 -0700 Jenny Creed FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248400#Comment_248400 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248400#Comment_248400 Fri, 02 Jul 2010 07:50:10 -0700 longtimelurker FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248406#Comment_248406 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248406#Comment_248406 Fri, 02 Jul 2010 08:08:15 -0700 Jenny Creed
And of course it hinges on the Freakangels' ability to get along with each other. We should have guessed.

If only two of them are capable of loving each other, it will be the end of the world as we know it. I wonder what they could do all together. . . ]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248418#Comment_248418 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248418#Comment_248418 Fri, 02 Jul 2010 08:51:03 -0700 stsparky FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248419#Comment_248419 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248419#Comment_248419 Fri, 02 Jul 2010 08:53:07 -0700 Professor Imagine FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248429#Comment_248429 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248429#Comment_248429 Fri, 02 Jul 2010 09:35:32 -0700 laurahulett

On a positive note, the art in this one is amazing!! Loved seeing everything after the rain, like this big sweeping shot of the results of the storm. Beautiful! ]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248430#Comment_248430 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248430#Comment_248430 Fri, 02 Jul 2010 09:36:56 -0700 John Skylar
Like, really, in a way it justifies his disaffection with the group if they're totally forgetting to tell him of major events like this. ]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248432#Comment_248432 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248432#Comment_248432 Fri, 02 Jul 2010 09:44:20 -0700 NextThursday Did he even try to say anything? I don't remember him trying to interrupt...
I think some time away would do him good.

On another note, methinks Alice is going to be piiiiissed when she finds out that Luke can't die.
"What do you fookin mean these fookin fookangels can't fookin die?! FOOK!"

Who do you think should be the metaphorical Kait's foot to crotch for Sirkka?
I'm voting for KK.

Is there a linear or exponential relationship between "levels" Arkady reaches and the size of her eyes? ]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248434#Comment_248434 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248434#Comment_248434 Fri, 02 Jul 2010 09:55:08 -0700 TAL
I got back from 3 weeks in Vegas on Tuesday, and the funniest thing about being home is that people keep talking about how warm it is here. So I smile to myself. ]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248441#Comment_248441 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248441#Comment_248441 Fri, 02 Jul 2010 10:24:47 -0700 diello He was my favourite before Luke went crazy. ]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248445#Comment_248445 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248445#Comment_248445 Fri, 02 Jul 2010 11:03:27 -0700 government spy
Did he even try to say anything? I don't remember him trying to interrupt...

It's perfect. No, he didn't try to say a thing, and that's so in character for people that act like Connor, and equally as frustrating/irritating. But so human and realistic at the same time.

Later, at some point, there will be a conversation, and Connor would say something along the lines of "You were all busy arguing, and nobody noticed that I even left." And the rest of the FA would respond that "LUKE GOT SHOT IN THE HEAD AND WAS YELLING AT EVERYONE. SORRY, WE WERE A BIT BUSY, CONNOR, HIS OPEN HEADWOUND WAS SPEWING BLOOD EVERYWHERE, SORRY WE DIDN'T HAVE TIME TO WIPE YOUR NOSE FOR YOU, CONNOR! Can we talk a bit more about you, Connor, what are your feelings, Connor?"

You're a mutant alien baby, with brain powers that can change the world. You can send your consciousness across miles to communicate with your brethren. Quit bitching that no one has read your mind, they didn't sense your pain because they were being polite, not because they don't care. They're a bit busy rebuilding the world while you make notes and talk to yourself.

Okay, rant over. I was just mad because he was mean to Arkady. ]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248451#Comment_248451 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248451#Comment_248451 Fri, 02 Jul 2010 11:29:47 -0700 bairdduvessa FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248458#Comment_248458 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248458#Comment_248458 Fri, 02 Jul 2010 12:05:42 -0700 KidAnarchy I'm all good finally working in an environment that suits me and fuck the money,there is nothing like taking a group of people with learning disabilites out and about Yorkshire to give you a different perspective on life
Generally a bit concerned about the effects the government of the ConDemned will have on these peoples lives but im prepared to fight for them if I have to.
Connor is a bit of an emo twat imho,perhaps he should start a mind-fi blog or some shit. ]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248467#Comment_248467 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248467#Comment_248467 Fri, 02 Jul 2010 12:43:54 -0700 cjtremlett FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248474#Comment_248474 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248474#Comment_248474 Fri, 02 Jul 2010 13:27:32 -0700 razrangel
I read the episode with a slow smile creeping over me, recalling Alice's "All is well, honest." I've always identified best with Connor and now particularly do. It doesn't matter if the murdered party didn't actually die, the intent was there. There is still chaining people up. There is still the constant bickering. Not one solitary attempt to get along just... I'll scream louder than you and be better armed and be more willing to take it to the limit, wherever that may be.

I was originally just going to write "ow" and leave it at that. But... I figured someone should say something on Connor's side. i fucking hate it when being unwilling to be brash and reckless is taken as evidence that one is a wuss. And when patience and compassion are mistaken for doormat status. If the Angels ever want that unified voice in the sky thing they will have to figure out how to get along. The person best suited to making that happen is Connor. ]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248479#Comment_248479 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248479#Comment_248479 Fri, 02 Jul 2010 13:46:31 -0700 NextThursday FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248480#Comment_248480 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248480#Comment_248480 Fri, 02 Jul 2010 13:52:00 -0700 razrangel FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248490#Comment_248490 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248490#Comment_248490 Fri, 02 Jul 2010 14:19:34 -0700 JP Carpenter
I always love the wrecked London views, gorgeous as ever.

Am tired and grumpy. Some mindless prick has badly scratched my car, work is slow and painful and I seem to be worrying unduly about the health of my vegetables. Must have wine. My daughter met the crew of the Space Shuttle on Monday. She asked if they'd ever met aliens. Then she threw a big strop when a BOY was on the news and not her. Oh well. ]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248496#Comment_248496 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248496#Comment_248496 Fri, 02 Jul 2010 14:27:59 -0700 longtimelurker
We don’t think Connor is “wrong.” What Kirk and Jack did to Luke was outrageous. The problem is Connor’s not just leaving the FREAKANGELS, he’s leaving all of the people in WHITECHAPEL he’s supposed to be protecting. He’s hurt and behaving emotionally, at the worst possible time. He’s giving back all the goodwill he earned for being so mature and reasonable until this point. But no worries, I have a feeling Arkady will give him a chance to earn it back. ]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248499#Comment_248499 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248499#Comment_248499 Fri, 02 Jul 2010 14:39:25 -0700 KidAnarchy Due to staffing issues which are directly related to cuts in social care funding (which is only going to get worse) we have been unable to water them.
I'm dreading taking everyone up there and seeing all our back breaking work withered in the ground...time for a rain dance methinks.
Bit off topic sorry. ]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248501#Comment_248501 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248501#Comment_248501 Fri, 02 Jul 2010 14:41:36 -0700 cjtremlett FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248502#Comment_248502 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248502#Comment_248502 Fri, 02 Jul 2010 14:48:40 -0700 fod_xp
Anyway, love the art, and I would absolutely *die* to see Connor's face when he learns his "not-friends" can't die.

Sorry, bud, thems the brakes, might want to ask Kaz and KK to make him a steam powered laptop or audio recording device so Connor can continue to record. ]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248514#Comment_248514 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248514#Comment_248514 Fri, 02 Jul 2010 15:28:06 -0700 government spy they can't deal," and the rest of us have to actually get our hands dirty and solve problems. Like Karl, Kait, Jack and a few others do. They're the realistic ones that know being concerned with how people feel about a situation only matters if you can survive it in the first place. ]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248518#Comment_248518 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248518#Comment_248518 Fri, 02 Jul 2010 15:38:10 -0700 razrangel

Maybe... maybe the way the people who "can deal" solve problems is utter crap. Maybe that "realistic" approach is a bogus escape from being mature, patient and compassionate. Maybe putting a gun to someone isn't an actual solution (and holy shit! for Freakangels it really ISN'T!) and the realistic ones are going to have to aim for something superior to survival. ]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248519#Comment_248519 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248519#Comment_248519 Fri, 02 Jul 2010 15:46:51 -0700 Vox Doom
Can't blame him for feeling intimidated myself. ]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248528#Comment_248528 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248528#Comment_248528 Fri, 02 Jul 2010 16:37:32 -0700 reptilegrrl
I sympathize with Connor. I think readers are forgetting that there is history here we haven't seen. We don't know what Connor has or hasn't said or done in the past. Sometimes all you can do for your own sanity is to walk away. ]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248534#Comment_248534 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248534#Comment_248534 Fri, 02 Jul 2010 17:29:58 -0700 KidAnarchy Surely its just abdicating on responsibility ? I'm not suggesting that confrontation or putting a gun to someone is a solution but really "with great power" etc.
Often times of crisis are the worst times to act emotionally and this is clearly what we have witnessed,especially as he has been too busy wallowing in self pity too actually take onboard the reality of the situation.
Sure Luke got shot (to the angels that's just a minor inconvenience) but Luke perpertrated heinous acts that personally i cannot condone and i am sure neither would connor.
Its fair enough taking action to preserve yourself but the manner in which Connor expresses it just seems slightly self indulgent especially when addressed to arkady, who imo would probably understand his concerns on a larger scale.
Im probably getting over involved here...
There are larger issues to address such as the new found ability to effect local weather conditions which could in turn bring positive benefits to the people whom the gang's actions have directly impacted and additionally if they are as powerful as it would seem then how are any of them to answer for anything they have done ?
On the plus side if he does leave it could add an interesting sub plot so we could see first hand what the rest of the surrounding country is like through his rather unique lens.
Waffle etc... ]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248539#Comment_248539 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248539#Comment_248539 Fri, 02 Jul 2010 17:59:44 -0700 Vox Doom
And like I said, he's probably intimidated by the more dominant personalities in the group so he doesn't want to confront them directly. ]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248552#Comment_248552 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248552#Comment_248552 Fri, 02 Jul 2010 18:51:36 -0700 KidAnarchy If indeed his departure is motivated by fear then i have even less time for the guy..."Fear is the mind killer,the little death that beckons total oblivion"
Is he not the the communication/empathic matrix for the group ? That in itself imparts him a certain opportunity to effect the situation,ie. "the medium is the message"
Don't get me wrong I'm not hating on him and to be fair i feel he is in some respects, justified in his response to the situation (after all his childhood friends are behaving rather like what they are,young people granted gross power in an extreme and trying situation) it all just seems a bit passive aggressive.
Whatever really I am not writing it and I will wait to see what happens but suffice to say im truely engaged and impressed by the portrayal of group dynamics.
Biggup Warren Ellis & The Purple Eyed Massive,Thanks for providing such an interesting,involving and FREE reality tunnel to escape into.
I am going to lapse into unconciousness now,I hope everyone has an awesome weekend. ]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248583#Comment_248583 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248583#Comment_248583 Sat, 03 Jul 2010 01:25:22 -0700 Prof Structure
Another stunning opening sequences, btw (apart from the 'fookin'!)

Ok, back to the grappling with inequivalent representations in quantum field theory ... ]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248586#Comment_248586 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248586#Comment_248586 Sat, 03 Jul 2010 02:28:02 -0700 fa4ever
And who says he's never tried to speak up? there's 6 years of stuff we haven't seen, he could have just gotten more withdrawn over time, not that he seemed very self-confident in the flashbacks. I was really looking forward to connor being a major player when I first started reading, and I was disappointed when it seemed like he became just an afterthought. I'm glad he's becoming a more central character so we can learn more about who he is instead of just labeling him "whiny emo" like so many people are doing. ]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248591#Comment_248591 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248591#Comment_248591 Sat, 03 Jul 2010 03:20:22 -0700 Fan FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248606#Comment_248606 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248606#Comment_248606 Sat, 03 Jul 2010 08:02:59 -0700 John Skylar FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248610#Comment_248610 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248610#Comment_248610 Sat, 03 Jul 2010 08:37:52 -0700 government spy
Like I said, I don't hate Connor, (I'm just being quite severe in my judgement of him) I actually really like this scenario, for while it is exactly NOT something I would do in this situation, it is something I could quite easily imagine others doing. It is a very realistic scenario, all things considered, when you add up all of the personality archtypes together. It's just that with my personality, I would be really, really pissed if one of my friends/siblings burned off in the middle of yet more drama.

To quote Lost (yeah, I know, sorry) "live together, die alone" although dying may not yet be possible for the FA as they understand it, their goals will likely suffer (i.e. keeping the rest of the Whitechapel residents alive) if they begin to break down any further. And while taking Mark or Luke out (whether that's actually possible remains to be seen) definitely doesn't keep status quo, keeping them from continuing their destructive actions definitely is a better alternative than letting them spiral down even more. Having Connor bail in the middle of all this would drive me nuts. Hence my venom.

Again, loving the storyline, and imagining what it would be like to be involved, and how I would feel if I was there. Not just picking on poor, vulnerable Connor.

(edited for grammar) ]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248624#Comment_248624 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248624#Comment_248624 Sat, 03 Jul 2010 09:50:11 -0700 Val A Lindsay II


There aren't too many silly, angst-ridden kids who could calmly talk while a knife is held to their throat. Connor and Arkady are the only ones I've seen literally risk their neck so far for others.

If I watched the kids I grew up with trying to kill each other off, I would probably question sticking around too. ]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248640#Comment_248640 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248640#Comment_248640 Sat, 03 Jul 2010 11:32:39 -0700 ShannonC
So yes, I suppose Connor wanting to leave is self-indulgent of him, but it is also a pretty honest reaction. Living with these people, he's probably had similar reactions before. They probably all have. I hazard to say any one of us would, in the situation. I think I'd be pretty tempted to at least try out the aluminum foil hat approach. But, because they function best as a group, whenever someone pushes boundaries (in Luke's case) or just can't deal with things (in Connor's case) there is always someone else there to stop them from doing something dumb. Or kick them in the junk, if need be. That's what friends do. That's what makes them friends.

I'm sure Connor is going to soon realize that all Arkady is doing right now is listening to him. Now that the shit has finished hitting the fan, they're going to need Connor to help sort everyone out. In fact, I think a lot of the Angels with little screen time up until now are going to come to the fore. ]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248648#Comment_248648 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248648#Comment_248648 Sat, 03 Jul 2010 12:30:34 -0700 PatrickBrown
He is behaving self-indulgently here, but it's in character, and he's really no more self-indulgent than most of the angels are most of the time, and less attention-seeking than Jack repeatedly sulking off on his boat. He still needs to wise up and learn to be a bit more assertive, but you never know though - maybe he does need to get out, away from these people he relates so unhealthily to, for a while and learn a bit of self-reliance.

Paul - gorgeous drawing of the building with the broken roof on the top of page 4. You use shadows beautifully. ]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248649#Comment_248649 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248649#Comment_248649 Sat, 03 Jul 2010 12:38:11 -0700 government spy Also, why is Sirkka's panel on page two all spotty? I know it's not my computer screen, though that really could use a cleaning, too.

Completely unrelated to previous ranting, I noticed this too. Are Sirkka's emotions causing it to snow in her apartment? Nice. ]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248650#Comment_248650 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248650#Comment_248650 Sat, 03 Jul 2010 12:44:22 -0700 razrangel That is how a right proper adult acts. That is NOT being emotional in a crisis. That is NOT being self-indulgent. Don't you get it?

/sarcasm

It's always struck me the only way for a quiet, polite, patient person to really get noticed, not to mention all of their virtues, seems to be for them to lose it. To act wholly unlike themselves and just erupt. In fiction it works... In fiction the people who have goaded the kind person to fomentation back up and realize what they've done. In reality...I've noticed it just means that people get mad when their former doormat is now taking them to task. Because kindness requires compassion and compassion requires understanding where the other person is coming from. And in reality those people who had been used to taking advantage of their quiet friends rarely have it in them to truly understand such a friend.

Maybe Arkady will. One can hope. ]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248681#Comment_248681 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248681#Comment_248681 Sat, 03 Jul 2010 19:05:22 -0700 Purple Wyrm Also, why is Sirkka's panel on page two all spotty? I know it's not my computer screen, though that really could use a cleaning, too.

Sirkka's bedroom is always spotty. I think it's a combination of languorous sunlight seeping through the curtains and her not bothering to dust much. ]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248721#Comment_248721 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248721#Comment_248721 Sun, 04 Jul 2010 02:30:49 -0700 Paul Duffield Bang on :)

@Badbear
Also, how did those Highland cows get to London from Scotland?
There are Highland Cattle all over! I used to live in Winchester (way down south) and there were a whole bunch of them roaming free around the downs near Stockbridge (which also happened to be a popular walking spot, so it was very intimidating, they still had their horns!) ]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248726#Comment_248726 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248726#Comment_248726 Sun, 04 Jul 2010 03:21:05 -0700 JP Carpenter FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248734#Comment_248734 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248734#Comment_248734 Sun, 04 Jul 2010 04:41:08 -0700 BettyBoolean


'wtf is dat man! check out dat mutha ' LOL ]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248863#Comment_248863 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248863#Comment_248863 Mon, 05 Jul 2010 05:31:41 -0700 mister hex
So long, Connor. Enjoy not chewing gum, ya wanker.

I second Alice's notion about the spliff. ]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248932#Comment_248932 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248932#Comment_248932 Mon, 05 Jul 2010 17:58:52 -0700 NakedCelt My cousin, fuming with little girl rage, thought for a minute (seriously, you could smell burning rubber and see the steam coming out her ears) and replied, quite seriously and quite petulantly "All right, finE! I won't chew gum anymore! So there!"False analogy. Connor wasn't being "Little John Put Upon", he was trying to leave without being noticed. Only when challenged did he burst out in anger, and frankly given the power he has as a FreakAngel a mere "Fuck off, I'm sick of this" is a damn sight more controlled and adult than the shooting and brain-spiking and chair-bashing and ball-kicking the others have been doing.
Why should Connor want to stay? Anybody? ]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248941#Comment_248941 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248941#Comment_248941 Mon, 05 Jul 2010 20:19:27 -0700 razrangel shouldn't want to stay. But the keyword is want. We have more information (I think) and it seems like he's going to *need* to stay with them. ]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248985#Comment_248985 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248985#Comment_248985 Tue, 06 Jul 2010 06:23:02 -0700 mister hex Why should Connor want to stay? Anybody?

He probably shouldn't. He's got a point, about them shooting each other and torture pits and all. BUT ... and this is a big BUT ... he should probably grow up an bit and realize that it's not all about him and his feelings. Does he owe some duty of care to the normal people in Whitechapel or even to his fellow Freakangels?

Connor (and arguably Miki and Caz) have received the least screen time and Connor has received the least character development of all the FA's so far. I expect it'll be the Connor show for the next bit and we'll see more about him that will hopefully make (some of) us like him more and make him less of a whiny git. ]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248988#Comment_248988 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=248988#Comment_248988 Tue, 06 Jul 2010 06:59:35 -0700 rickiep00h BUT ... and this is a big BUT ... he should probably grow up an bit and realize that it's not all about him and his feelings.I think this goes for all of them. People have been saying the same thing about Mark and Luke and Jack, and I could certainly (attempt to) make a case for Sirkka and KK and maybe Kait. ]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=249082#Comment_249082 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=249082#Comment_249082 Tue, 06 Jul 2010 17:28:08 -0700 Berserker Why should Connor want to stay? Anybody?

He should stay for the same reason the Kait was kicking Jack in the balls over - they're stuck with each other, and it's time for them to grow up and deal with it. And let's face it, if this group of people needs anything, it's someone as level-headed, calm, and reasoning as Connor.

Of all the Freakangel's, he's the ONLY one who hasn't had his head somewhere else all this time. The rest have been too deeply involved in their own little worlds to have really payed any attention to much outside themselves - except Conner, who hasn't been doing much of anything else except watching them all at it.

He should stay because without him? They'll never find a reasonable perspective between them all. ]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=249125#Comment_249125 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=249125#Comment_249125 Wed, 07 Jul 2010 01:19:30 -0700 NakedCelt BUT ... and this is a big BUT ... he should probably grow up an bit and realize that it's not all about him and his feelings. Does he owe some duty of care to the normal people in Whitechapel or even to his fellow Freakangels?
...
and we'll see more about him that will hopefully make (some of) us like him more and make him less of a whiny git.

Yeah, a couple of assumptions there.
A) he isn't a whiny git, and he doesn't think it's all about him or his feelings; he was trying not to draw attention to himself until Arkady stymied that. This is an important point; get a handle on it now. We have been watching Connor pack up and leave for the last few episodes. That doesn't mean he's been doing it for an audience in-story.
And B) what "duty of care"? Can none of the other Angels write? Connor's "one big happy family" dream is actually about the second-most sensible thing one can do with people walking around with massive pieces of psychic weaponry in their heads. That having failed, Connor is now doing the most sensible thing, namely removing one of the pieces of weaponry out of temptation's way.
Or, at least, if I were in Connor's position right now, that's what I'd be thinking; and for that reason, I'd be doing exactly what he's doing. ]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=249130#Comment_249130 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=249130#Comment_249130 Wed, 07 Jul 2010 02:43:13 -0700 PatrickBrown and learn to assert himself because that means changing a very long-established pattern of how he relates to the others and how they relate to him. For the sake of Connor's mental health he probably does need to leave. Whether that suits Warren's story purposes, we shall no doubt find out. ]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=249151#Comment_249151 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=249151#Comment_249151 Wed, 07 Jul 2010 05:44:47 -0700 JP Carpenter FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=249157#Comment_249157 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=249157#Comment_249157 Wed, 07 Jul 2010 06:38:57 -0700 thud But how about the rest of them, too? That would be an ideal way to disperse their problem with each other if they each found another location and became "caretakers" for a region.
Perhaps if Connor leaves it could inspire the others to do the same. ]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=249164#Comment_249164 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=249164#Comment_249164 Wed, 07 Jul 2010 06:55:17 -0700 mister hex
@PatrickBrown re :"whiny"
It's only really used against nerdy, quiet men (rarely women) when they express any kind of unhappiness, because we expect them to suck it up and suffer in silence.

I respectfully disagree. But yes, there is a cultural expectation to "be a man" and not um ... whine. ]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=249225#Comment_249225 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=249225#Comment_249225 Wed, 07 Jul 2010 13:23:40 -0700 Jenny Creed perspective. Through him they look at themselves from the outside, which forms the basis for conscience and consciousness, which lets them grow past the bare essentials of survival.

In theory, anyway.

Wildly speculative theory, anyway. ]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=249237#Comment_249237 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=249237#Comment_249237 Wed, 07 Jul 2010 14:31:55 -0700 rickiep00h continued survival. Theoretically he should be the one keeping them from repeating the same mistakes over and over.

Which is probably what has him irked more than anything. He's practically useless as long as they keep sniping at each other. Well, not exactly "useless," more like... misused? Underutilized? Yeah, I'll go with that. ]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=249290#Comment_249290 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=249290#Comment_249290 Wed, 07 Jul 2010 22:51:37 -0700 NakedCelt instead of singing emo songs and going "plink-plunk nobody loves me."Neither of which Connor is doing; he's packing up and leaving without being noticed. Or trying to. Still waiting for that little point to get through, are we? ]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=249330#Comment_249330 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=249330#Comment_249330 Thu, 08 Jul 2010 05:56:14 -0700 mister hex Still waiting for that little point to get through, are we?



You DID get that I was being facetious, yes? No? Well, I was. Sorry about that. Boy, ya shake the trees and all the Connor-fans fall out.


he's packing up and leaving without being noticed. Or trying to.


If he wanted to leave secretly, why stop and yell at Arkady? I imagine Connor will get some screen time in the next episode(s) to explain himself thoroughly and that will be that. I also think he ain't going anywhere. ]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=249353#Comment_249353 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=249353#Comment_249353 Thu, 08 Jul 2010 07:57:27 -0700 John Skylar If he wanted to leave secretly, why stop and yell at Arkady?

Well, in all fairness, she did kind of teleport right into where he was walking. She's got a habit of doing that. ]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=249467#Comment_249467 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=249467#Comment_249467 Fri, 09 Jul 2010 02:17:23 -0700 Jack the Rapper FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=249521#Comment_249521 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=249521#Comment_249521 Fri, 09 Jul 2010 06:21:22 -0700 longtimelurker
"Oh, Sirkka, I changed my mind, I'm starting to LIKE these full-blown orgies...!" ]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=249659#Comment_249659 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=249659#Comment_249659 Fri, 09 Jul 2010 15:37:27 -0700 Silhouette
As for the latest episode, I really liked it. The first few panels had the feeling of a panning camera, and I really enjoyed those looks of life outside of the FA group, to see how the rest of their city is coping with the aftermath. And for some reason I really liked the fact they have bulls and pigs living there. XD Nice to know livestock is still around.

I had the feeling Arkady teleported to Connor and then gave him an info dump of everything that happened? Those seem like new powers. o_o; Strange, but cool. It makes me wonder if some of the others won't want to die and 'level up' and the ones who are more powerful might try to use that to shape the world again to their own liking. I hope they can eventually band together and create something great instead of tearing themselves down, again.

And this has nothing to do with the episode but I kind of ship Arkady and Connor. XD ]]> FREAKANGELS Episode 0102 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=249686#Comment_249686 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8500&Focus=249686#Comment_249686 Fri, 09 Jul 2010 18:30:51 -0700 bairdduvessa