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      CommentAuthorCuriosity
    • CommentTimeFeb 5th 2008
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    I'm pretty sick of living in Chicago. Any suggestions for American cities to which I should move? (I asked around on a different forum and practically everyone named cities in Canada. Sigh. Either they are ignorant of geography, or they think I can magically obtain a foreign visa.)
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      CommentAuthorEgon
    • CommentTimeFeb 5th 2008 edited
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    Nearly all of my friends have left SoCal for Portland. There's something big going on up there. Not sure what though. Everything outside of Portland looks like scenes from Lord of The Rings. Green everywhere.

    If you head out there, secure a job first. I hear it's slim pickins.
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      CommentAuthorMark R
    • CommentTimeFeb 5th 2008
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    My brother lives in Portland and loves it, so I guess that's a second for Portland. I live a little north of Milwaukee, WI and I love it here. Close enough to civilization but also close enough to the north woods. Best of both.
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      CommentAuthoroldhat
    • CommentTimeFeb 5th 2008
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    A lot of friends of mine are moving to Seattle. Something seems to be happening there.
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    A lot of friends of mine are moving to Seattle. Something seems to be happening there.

    Yeah. Staging for a diaspora to Vancouver.
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      CommentAuthorCuriosity
    • CommentTimeFeb 5th 2008
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    Seattle and Portland instantly make me think of: "Hey, that's a nice haircut. Can I have a cigarette?"
    • CommentAuthorNecros
    • CommentTimeFeb 5th 2008
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    I really like Sacramento...but it has a lot to do with the laid back attitude and being close to everything in California, rather than actually having a lot going on. Though we do have numerous good comic book stores and many very nice restaurants.
    • CommentAuthoromer333
    • CommentTimeFeb 5th 2008
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    @Necros, you're the first person I've heard with anything good to say about Sacramento. I'm interested in trying to get a job at one of the tv stations there in a year or two.
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      CommentAuthorzoem
    • CommentTimeFeb 5th 2008
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    I'm guessing a lot of the migration to Portland is that it's a West Coast city that hasn't experienced as much of a cost of living mesa (what else would you call a very high plateau?) as the SF area or Seattle.

    I guess it depends on what you like in a town. I've known very few Chicago transplants to the SF Bay Area who didn't return home. Culture shock of some kind, I think - they were all miserable here. But maybe they were just always miserable.

    I live in Berkeley, CA and I love it, except for the hippies. It's cheaper than SF while still being really accessible. But it requires a pretty decent income bracket if you don't want to live in student slums, or out where you need a car. Though I suppose "not driving" is not high on some people's criteria. Oakland is similarly awesome, if not moreso - it's more affordable (in parts) and has a slightly more mature artsy/urban vibe.
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      CommentAuthorCyman
    • CommentTimeFeb 5th 2008
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    San Fran, Portland, Seattle and New York are really the only viable options if you MUST live in the states. Actually, I'm hearing neat things about Columbus, Ohio. As far as Canada goes, Vancouver IS San Fran, Toronto is our attempt at a New York, and Montreal is an attept at Paris. Alberta is basically Texas, and the Arctic is well, the fucking Arctic.
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      CommentAuthorCuriosity
    • CommentTimeFeb 5th 2008
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    San Francisco is too damned expensive, it would be my first choice if I could afford it.
    I lived in Columbus, Ohio for three years. All in all it's a nice place, but I don't know if I'd want to move back there.
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      CommentAuthorKorakas
    • CommentTimeFeb 5th 2008
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    Yeah. Staging for a diaspora to Vancouver.

    I'm going the same way; looking to move there for school.

    I dunno. I lived in Chicago for four years and absolutely loved it; found it to be exceptionally vibrant and diverse. But then again, I moved there from the Northeast (where I currently am), so the change of environment was just what I was looking for.

    Austin, Texas and Chapel Hill, South Carolina might be good options. I've heard nothing but good things about both. And you won't have to worry about any weather comparable to a Chicago winter.
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      CommentAuthorCuriosity
    • CommentTimeFeb 5th 2008 edited
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    I don't mind the cold so much. Chicago is quite diverse, but still extremely Midwestern. I suppose what I'm really trying to do is move further out of the Bible Noose. I've been there for five years and despite being a bit artsy, deep down it still seems kind of backwater, I guess. I still turn heads and get snide remarks on the street with dyed hair and piercings, and that just shouldn't happen in a large city, especially in the neighborhood in which I live. In which case going south may be a bad idea.
    Goddamn...I probably do really need to get out of America...
    • CommentAuthoromer333
    • CommentTimeFeb 5th 2008
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    I've got a bunch of friends in Austin, TX; they all migrated there from Florida. They all love it, the music scene, the bar scene, all of it.

    Portland, Austin, and Nashville are the other towns I'm looking at for the family to relocate to.
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      CommentAuthoreric_c
    • CommentTimeFeb 5th 2008
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    Definitely depends on what's important for you in a city. I was looking all over the US a few months ago and ended up in LA mainly because that's where all the opportunities for me seemed to creep up. Some people probably hate it, but as my first major move out of the Midwest, I am considering it a massive learning experience, and enjoying it very much so far. Has its pros and cons, but no city is perfect. ;)
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      CommentAuthorJaredRules
    • CommentTimeFeb 5th 2008
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    Portland has kinda been a big hipster mecca for a while.
    It's pretty rad there. It's like Seattle but smaller, and friendlier. They got the best doughnut shop in the world (Voodoo Doughnut).
    I've almost moved there like 5 times.

    Seattle is alright. I got no real complaints about it. I don't desperately want to move, so at least it's not terrible.
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      CommentAuthorJoe Paoli
    • CommentTimeFeb 5th 2008
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    I'd avoid anything on Forbes Top Ten Most Miserable Cities:

    1. Detroit, MI
    2. Stockton, CA
    3. Flint, MI
    4. New York City
    5. Philadelphia, PA
    6. Chicago, IL
    7. Los Angeles, CA
    8. Modesto, CA
    9. Charlotte, NC
    10. Providence, RI


    But if you end up in number 5, stop by to say hello.
    • CommentAuthornleavitt
    • CommentTimeFeb 5th 2008
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    If I had to live in the US, I would aim for the West Coast, as far north as i could manage. Anywhere in the Rockies is nice to visit, but i have no idea what it's like to live in, say, Denver.
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    I still turn heads and get snide remarks on the street with dyed hair and piercings, and that just shouldn't happen in a large city, especially in the neighborhood in which I live.

    Just out of curiousity, where are you in the city? I live in Ukranian Village/Wicker Park and you've described more of the norm than the outlier in my neighborhood.

    What I like about Chicago are the strata to the art scene. Take theater. You have Steppenwolf, Lyric Second City, Neo-Futurists, the burleque scene and dozens of neighborhood companies like Helping Hand and Cabaret of the Nameless.

    What I like about Chicago is that you can generally find a neighborhood that suits your temperament. I lived in a blue-collar jewish community (Albany Park) growing up and moved to Boystown, which was like going to another universe.
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      CommentAuthorFerburton
    • CommentTimeFeb 5th 2008
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    I myself prefer the cities in Mass. They've still all got a very industrial, colonial, kind of feeling too them, especially Lowell, which you'll find cobble stone roads in certain places.

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