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      CommentAuthorZ
    • CommentTimeFeb 8th 2008
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    @zoem

    I commute between SJ, MV & LG quite a bit. While SJ is a bit <em>underwhelming</em>, there's some nice stuff in LG & MV if you know where to look for it.

    I don't 'get' SF, personally. Maybe because I don't have a guide, I don't know. I don't love it the way everyone else seems to fall in love with it.

    - Z
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      CommentAuthorLokiZero
    • CommentTimeFeb 8th 2008
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    Not looking forward to the hippies when I move to the Boulder area in May. But, I live in Austin now, and I can't imagine it being any worse.
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    Sounds like you'd like Seattle or Portland best. It never gets hot there, and the winters are comparatively mild, and there seems to be a good arts scene in both towns. It does tend to rain a lot though. Boulder, CO might work, depending on your job needs. Denver is okay but it sits in a bowl and gets really smoggy in the summer, with high temps in the upper 90s. If you like college towns you could also check out Ft. Collins, CO. It has a charming central section and the housing isn't too expensive. Not a lot of jobs, though.
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    I'd really like to get the fuck out of here (Fresno, CA) too. This place is starting to eat my soul, I think.
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      CommentAuthorCyman
    • CommentTimeFeb 9th 2008
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    Let's all move to Portland together and live in a white chapel. Split up the rent, it couldn't be too bad.
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    Very cool thread. I'm planning a great escape myself and considering San Diego, Seattle, and (sigh) a return to L.A.
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      CommentAuthorCyman
    • CommentTimeFeb 9th 2008
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    I live with Buddhists who would suggest that the city has no bearing on our happiness because all our emotions are a result of us projecting ourselves on the outside world. I'm saying you actually don't hate Fresno or Chicago, you hate White Power Bill.
    • CommentAuthorskwirl
    • CommentTimeFeb 10th 2008
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    a nice liberal atmosphere without the scary could-explode-into-chaos-any-minute feel that, say, Seattle is supposed to have.


    If Seattle frightens you I wouldn't recommend ever living in a city with more than 100,000 people.

    I moved to Berkeley from Seattle, but I can't really say one is better than the other. Seattle has far fewer hippies, but it's currently 61 degrees in February down here. Seattle doesn't ever really get cold though, it basically has 2 seasons, Fall and August. If you do move to Seattle, one thing to keep in mind is despite lax enforcement, marijuana isn't actually legal there.
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      CommentAuthorSarpedon
    • CommentTimeFeb 10th 2008
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    Just don't expect a job waiting when you get here.

    especially not in automobile manufacture.

    Detroit is a great place to live if you want to drop off the grid or have a mad max fetish.

    ...and Detroit has just jumped up my list of places to think about moving.

    and you're going to want a job before you move

    depends on what you're looking for, if you are at a point where you don't have many expenses, you can find menial work pretty easily, we're a college town on steroids so there's huge turnover in shit-jobs like working in coffee shops, restaurants, retail, cashiers, etc. work doesn't seem hard to come by at all, not like the suburbs of NY where I'm from where you could hardly pay people to let you work.

    When looking for my current job in Boston, I applied to two places and got hired at the second. Craigslist is awesome.
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      CommentAuthorcarney
    • CommentTimeFeb 10th 2008
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    A tree house might be a good get away, coudl be anywhere.
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    Not Pittsburgh...

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