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    • CommentAuthorBankara
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2011
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    I am a bit conflicted on this, Snyder did a great job with 300 by sticking close to the source material and the stylized approach of trying to mirror Frank Millers artwork. This approach really hurt him on Watchmen though, it was overlong and his insistence on being absolutely true to the book made it drag. Also, I remember the first time that Dr. Manhattan appeared full frontal everyone in the theatre just laughed at his blue dangly junk and from that moment onwards he kind of lost the audience with each additional scene.
    That being said, being freed from the constraints of having to follow a book faithfully, especially a book as beloved as Watchmen, might work to his advantage if he does it right. I just watched Jeunet's "Mic-Macs" and despite the plot being wafer thin the visual storytelling and the characters carried it off beautifully and I loved it. If this kind of approach were applied here and plot was discarded in favor of compelling characters and pure visual inventive fun then this may have a chance.
    • CommentAuthorSteadyUP
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2011
     (8644.42)
    I liked it alright, and I actually think I'll like it more the second time I see it. A lot was hanging on the resolution, so I spent the bulk of the movie enjoying myself, but concerned that it would all be for nothing if it ended badly. But everything that happened once we got back to the asylum was more or less exactly how I thought it should have ended. Is every single detail of the fantasy perfectly clear to me in retrospect? No, but I don't find myself fretting over it.
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    Visually beautiful, but what it makes up for there it more than lacks in terms of plot and ease of comprehension. I found myself asking whether or not any of it was real more than once, and it was never cleared up. I'm pretty sure Orderly Blue didn't shoot two of his wards in the head? Also, none of the crazies seemed to even be that crazy. I kept trying to predict that one of them would end up totally batshit or something, or that Rocket would be a figment of Sweet Pea's imagination or vice versa, but it turns out they're all just slightly over-emotional but fundamentally normal people.

    Also, I had a revelation about a fundamental truth of this movie:
    It's Pan's Labyrinth with tits and explosions. Evil stepfather displaces the heroine into a fascist environment, which leads the heroine into an insane dreamworld where she must collect trinkets for a man that only she can see, with consequences in the real world.


    You're welcome.
    • CommentAuthorgzapata
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2011
     (8644.44)
    @silentObjector
    Figured to put this in a spoiler box but anyways the way I saw it was when the character "died" they were actually getting lobotomized. They all died on the final day when the doctor was in and occurred right before hers which to me simply means they were in front of her on the list.
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      CommentAuthorD.J.
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2011
     (8644.45)
    @Redwynd
    I agree pretty much completely. Make the burlesque the reality, and make the action sequences representative of her dancing, at least in passing. In a perfect world, I'd like to see that layered in with personal conflict and battles between reality and unreality, but I highly doubt Snyder thought any of it through that deeply. It would have been easy to substitute the beginning with something about how the stepfather was in debt and sold her, followed by the tyranny which made the club so awful a place to be.

    Of course, there's also plenty of questions about what actually happened, even if you're not worried about what happened to the other girls. Most prominently; where did they get the fire? Who is the mayor suppose to represent? Just for a start.

    Also, more Jon Hamm.
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    Superb weed movie with a shitty plot.
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      CommentAuthorjohnjones
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2011
     (8644.48)
    Of course, there's also plenty of questions about what actually happened, even if you're not worried about what happened to the other girls. Most prominently; where did they get the fire? Who is the mayor suppose to represent? Just for a start.


    At the front of the movie, you see all the various objects in the real world. The lighter was held by a chubby guy who was playing with it next to a "No Smoking" sign. That guy later plays the Mayor. Presumably Babydoll somehow obtained the lighter in the real world and the liquor bottle she used for the molotov cocktail was a bottle of flammable cleaning chemicals or something.
  4.  (8644.49)
    Fuck the critics, I dug it. Therefore, it was good. So there.
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    also, I thought the same thing as gzapata
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      CommentAuthorDextra
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2011
     (8644.51)
    I liked it. I did think the ending was more or less a letdown after all of the spectacular action scenes. And the soundtrack is fabulous. I actually bought it as soon as I got home.
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    The soundtrack was pretty excellent. I kept expecting Marilyn Manson to jump in during Sweet Dreams.
    Tomorrow Never Knows also got a mental thumbs-up from me.
  7.  (8644.53)
    Wow, reading the reviews on rottentomatoes, you'd think Sucker Punch was Battlefield Earth or something. I submit to you that IT WAS NOT.
    I need to buy that soundtrack tomorrow.
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      CommentAuthorD.J.
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2011
     (8644.54)
    @johnjones
    I completely missed that one thing, and it was bugging me the whole movie.
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      CommentAuthortedcroland
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2011
     (8644.55)
    I thought it was an unremarkable action movie. Yeah, they desaturated the colors. Yeah, they incorporated a lot of genre nonsense. Yeah, it has sexy chicks (none of which can act). But when it came down to it, it was an exercise in seeing how many talented people could waste their time on a forgettable product.

    Snyder is a good director, but, evidently, he's shallow as hell. He doesn't seem to have much of a handle on story, even if his storytelling is adequate. As far as the "visual genius" label goes? No. Watch more non-Hollywood movies. Or, even, better Hollywood movies. He can put together nice visuals, and as far as film goes, that's not all that remarkable a talent. I don't mean to be reductive, but to say that Snyder is a genius for having this skill implies that one's familiarity is only with schlock genre bullshit. Truly genius directors would direct a circle around Snyder, and spend not a dollar on computer effects doing it.

    As for his other films, 300 was the only one that impressed me at all when I saw it, probably because it was the first time they let him do his super-CG desaturated atmosphere and slow-mo/focus racking in any unrestrained manner. Watchmen seemed to be accurate except the parts that matter (he somehow managed to systematically betray the thesis of just about every character in the film), and Dawn Of The Dead was a shallow interpretation of a movie that, looking back, is more cult than quality anyway (I actually like the original a lot, just trying to make an objective opinion on it).

    I walked into the film expecting to be unmoved and hoping to be proven wrong, and walked away unmoved and not proven wrong. I can see where people would like it, I'm all for sexy chicks and explosions, but when it comes down to it, there's not much more than that there, no matter how much it doesn't want to believe that sad fact.

    Was anyone else bothered by the fact that we are never told exactly why it's a good thing that girl gets away in the end? Yeah, she was Baby Doll's friend, but in reality she could have still had some serious mental problems and needed to be locked up. We don't really know, do we? We're just supposed to take for granted that at the next stop she doesn't stab the bus driver with a rusty icepick and drive the bus into an orphanage. I might have liked the movie more if she had.
  8.  (8644.56)
    Saw it this sunday,

    "Glorious Mess" seems an apt description. Once again, Snyders strengths and weaknesses are in full display with this movie. He is not a hack or talentless. There is a lot I liked, enough to buy it when it comes out on blue ray. Thee guy is a genious but his big weakness is storytelling. Truth be told, he needs a writing partner. Someone who can focus on the story, while Snyder handles the visuals. He finds someone like that, his movies would improve dramatically.

    I still have hig hopes for Superman, despite his insistence on being more "realistic" Still it makes me wonder what a guy like Zach Snyder considers realistic.
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      CommentAuthorJon Wake
    • CommentTimeMar 28th 2011
     (8644.57)
    Ted, what you said. Snyder's a chump, and his childish interpretation of Watchmen meant that he'd have to show he has a grip on story and character before I'd give him the time of day. Which he didn't, and so he doesn't. If I want pretty inanity I'll just watch Ong Bak I-III.
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      CommentAuthordispophoto
    • CommentTimeMar 28th 2011 edited
     (8644.58)
    ooh, io9 reviews the movie: "goes beyond awful, to become commentary on the death of moviemaking"

    http://io9.com/#!5785590/sucker-punch-goes-beyond-awful-to-become-commentary-on-the-death-of-moviemaking

    /edited to actually make it a link. failbot mode today.
  9.  (8644.59)
    ooh, io9 reviews the movie: "goes beyond awful, to become commentary on the death of moviemaking"


    Which is strange because this seems to be exactly the kind of film that io9 have been demanding for years.

    You can't please some people though.
    • CommentAuthorbadbear
    • CommentTimeMar 28th 2011
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