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      CommentAuthorlx rudis
    • CommentTimeFeb 6th 2008
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    aussie band severed heads has 'updated' their homepage with a tombstone:

    http://www.sevcom.com/

    ...this is sort of old news, the sevcom forum announced their passing back in february, but this change is recent, and appears to seal the deal.

    for those completely confused by this post, here's some history on the band:

    http://www.sevcom.com/index2.html

    ...the sevcom community experiment lasted thru about 6 major overhauls, starting off as a BBS accessed with one's 300baud modem and apple IIe, eventually turning into an internet maillist viewed on one's relatively modern mac or PC, finally morphing into a forum not unlike this one. that forum is viewable at:
    http://sevcom.com/beta/

    it never got much larger than about 300 people, but maintained fairly high traffic and a lot of interaction up thru the hotly debated conversion to forum.

    a subset of members expressed their frustration with the shift from maillist to forum by instating another list, 'exiles'.
    http://cliffords.arrr.us/

    although the 'subject' of sevcom was supposed to be Severed Heads, the community discovered its own 'group mind' early on [by the mid 90s], and the list became a rather complex beast; unmanageable, but entertaining enough to be kept alive. i believe there are archives up at sevcom if anyone's curious.

    i think we've got several other sevcom folk here...? anyone care to comment/correct me?

    lx
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    NOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooo

    erse
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    Fascinating. I'd never heard of this until a couple of days ago.
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      CommentAuthorTrotsky
    • CommentTimeFeb 6th 2008
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    damn that tombstone is really depressing.

    :(


    I also like that "The Future" is under construction.
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      CommentAuthorlx rudis
    • CommentTimeMar 28th 2008
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    i just spoke to one of the other 'cliffords', and was pointed at a blog that tom did on reflection of sevcom and the multiple 'twister' social experiments it underwent:

    http://tomellard.com/wp/?p=5

    ...i think it's too simple to say that this represents 'more of the same'. situations are similar, but are never quite the same; they evolve. sometimes that can seem like stasis, but when those periods are viewed from the perspective of a few years the evolution is obvious.

    as we move forward culturally, we develop new systems to deal with each other.
    i think that the current problem of anonymity and social investment is something that is already sorting itself out.
    then again, i sometimes get accused of being a pollyanna. flame at will...

    ellard makes one disturbing comment toward the end of his blog, reflecting on the changing social role of music, and how it's now just a 'lifestyle' choice. what's disturbing to me is that _i already feel that way_ about creative content of _all_ sorts. the end result is that i'm much more detached than i ever felt i'd be.

    ...but is this bad? is it just new? or prehaps it's been here all along, just not acknowledged? ...i think back to my dad who always seemed so jaded about art, and this feels different to me. his position was one of disappointment, that the arts had somehow failed him. i don't feel that the arts have failed me, and i do know how to go rooting around to find things which get me excited...but nothing has much traction. perhaps it's the experience of being truly oversold, overcommoditized.

    hmm...i better go cut the manufacturer's labels out of my clothes if i want to stay on _this_ rant...
    ;D

    lx
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    ellard makes one disturbing comment toward the end of his blog, reflecting on the changing social role of music, and how it's now just a 'lifestyle' choice.

    Wow. Welcome to... 1983.
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      CommentAuthorlx rudis
    • CommentTimeMar 28th 2008
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    haw!

    now don't be leading me into anything i might have to apologize to him about.
    besides, i was just warming meself up for that flagwaving webtastic3.0 rant about hypermediated infotrainment and fighting the Good Fight against the cold grey goo of corporate globalism.

    ...still got some labels left to cut out, though.
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    besides, i was just warming meself up for that flagwaving webtastic3.0 rant about hypermediated infotrainment and fighting the Good Fight against the cold grey goo of corporate globalism.


    Well, don't let me steal your wind. I've got some CD-Rs from new bands to listen to, and mp3s from new acts, and a few internet radio stations I've been meaning to catch up with, and I need to buy some stuff from the Scandi-indie Fonal and Miasmah labels this month...

    ...sorry, right, cold grey goo of corporate globalism, I' m with you now.