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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 05:46:33 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Paul Renderwrx</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I know this argument has been debated before and will again, but seriously are we all ok with calling our beloved and complex form of art and story "comcs"? Or "comic book"?<br /><br />I mean 95% of comics published today are not comedic in anyway, why then do we still call em "comics"?<br /><br />But if not comics, what do we call them?<br /><br />What's your opinion? ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 06:15:11 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Will Ellwood</author>
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			<![CDATA[ What else are we going to call them? <br /><br />The name works, and while there have been attempts to call them "graphic novels", or other euphemisms, all arguments about what to call comics just end up confusing people. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 06:26:57 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>PatrickBrown</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Why are long-form prose narratives called "novels"? They've been doing them for ages, they're hardly new and surprising anymore. And "opera"? Latin for "works". Why should that be the name of a musical drama form?<br /><br />Names are arbitrary. Once one's stuck, it's stuck. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 07:17:59 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Audley Strange</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Not this again. Nothing wrong with calling them Comics. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 07:27:46 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>epalicki</author>
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			<![CDATA[ "Comics" is the least pretentious option at this point. Everyone know what it means and you're not intentionally talking over anyone's head by calling them "sequential art documents" or whatever other option you're gonna try to use. <br /><br />The only thing I try to do consciously is that I never call a singular comic book a 'comic.' It's always 'comic book.' Without 'book,' it's always comics, with an 's.' This is because I once told my boss I needed to use vacation time to go to the New York Comic Convention and he thought I was really into stand-up.<br /><br />Additionally, while we're arguing semantics, why are long-form sequential works always graphic <em >novels</em>, regardless of whether they're actually fiction? ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 07:38:05 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>warrenellis</author>
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			<![CDATA[ oh dear god<br /><br />you can set your fucking clock by this conversation ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 08:47:52 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>joe.distort</author>
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			<![CDATA[ WE CALL THEM COMICS BECAUSE THEY ARE COMICS<br /><br />i also call my cats 'cats' instead of 'night murderers' and my space fiction 'space fiction' instead of 'spacepunk' or some other dumb shit. things have names. we use them to describe things. changing the name of something makes no sense as you then have to explain what you are talking about instead of just using the right name. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 08:52:46 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>costa_k</author>
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			<![CDATA[ <blockquote >WE CALL THEM COMICS BECAUSE THEY ARE COMICS<br /><br />i also call my cats 'cats' instead of 'night murderers' and my space fiction 'space fiction' instead of 'spacepunk' or some other dumb shit. things have names. we use them to describe things. changing the name of something makes no sense as you then have to explain what you are talking about instead of just using the right name. </blockquote><br /><br />This.  Except I don't have any night murderers, though I will soon for a short while. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 08:56:38 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>infomancer</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I think this has pretty much been covered by the posters above, but I'd like to add that attempting to change the appellation to "Graphic Novels" or what have you smacks of a certain vanity, as if we need to make it sound more adult and acceptable. I sort of like the fact that I'm pushing 30 and reading comics. It's a kind of geek pride, maybe. I enjoy the secret club sort of vibe that you get when you meet someone else who's unafraid to own up to comics readership. Same thing with meeting another metalhead. I dig that "Fuck it, this is me" attitude. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 09:14:37 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>warrenellis</author>
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			<![CDATA[ <em >i also call my cats 'cats' instead of 'night murderers'</em><br /><br />but i <em >do</em> call my cats night murderers ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 09:25:49 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>joe.distort</author>
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			<![CDATA[ whereas i just try to delude myself that they are as adorable as i think...even though i find their victims in the hall. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 09:46:59 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Rootfireember</author>
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			<![CDATA[ @joe.distort<br />-They aren't victims. They are HORRIBLE THINGS the kitties were SAVING YOU from. And you'd better appreciate it. haha. The joys of kitty love. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 09:58:15 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>joe.distort</author>
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			<![CDATA[ haha, true. thats why i spoil them. i keep trying to tell them to get jobs but thats the most they will do to cover their part of our rent. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 10:04:01 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>keyofsilence</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I like how this thread changed into a conversation about cats. Clearly cats are more worthwhile to discuss. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 10:08:34 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>warrenellis</author>
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			<![CDATA[ i have successfully destroyed the thread without using violence or abuse<br /><br />I AM SUAVE ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 10:12:00 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>joe.distort</author>
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			<![CDATA[ <blockquote >Clearly cats are more worthwhile to discuss. </blockquote><br /><br />DUH scroll over my name ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 10:16:02 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>m3t4lfi3nd</author>
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			<![CDATA[ My grandmother calls them "funny-books". I assume it's something from decades past that was used to some degree. Just be glad that name didn't stick! ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 10:27:07 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>stevencudahy</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Can a cat that doesn't go 'night murderer' on its owner at least once a week really be said to be fulfilling its essential 'catness'? ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 10:57:09 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>celan</author>
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			<![CDATA[ <blockquote >i have successfully destroyed the thread without using violence or abuse<br />I AM SUAVE</blockquote><br />We should employ this maneuver in one of the US's "pesky" foreign wars. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 11:09:59 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Brandon Seifert</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I'm with all the people groaning "For fuck's sake" and shaking there heads.<br /><br />You come up with a better, non-wanky name for them, and I'll consider adopting it.  But I have yet to see someone suggest one. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 11:15:32 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>keyofsilence</author>
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			<![CDATA[ @Brandon, "illustrated entertainment devices". ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 11:27:57 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>James Cunningham</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Comics- two syllables and done, quick and snappy.  Or we could go like modern tech (tv, dvd, vcr, lcd) and just acronym the hell out of it.  Illustrated Entertainment Device (nice one, by the way) - IED. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 11:29:11 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>SilentObjector</author>
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			<![CDATA[ @James<br />That's sure to be popular with the boys in the Middle East. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 11:44:55 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>warrenellis</author>
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			<![CDATA[ kraken scripture ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 12:00:01 -0700</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[ SUAVE ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 12:19:18 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>BrianMowrey</author>
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			<![CDATA[ somebody's mom's facebook page all 'And here's me with my two night murderers, Foofoo and Buttons' ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 12:24:34 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Rootfireember</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I think if anyone named their nightmurderers Foofoo and Buttons, they'd end up dead before nightfall. Hahaha. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 12:32:35 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>keyofsilence</author>
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			<![CDATA[ "Monolithic Glyph Tablets of Destiny". ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 12:48:29 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>joe.distort</author>
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			<![CDATA[ i just want NIGHT MURDERER to be a thing now ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 13:43:30 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>chris g</author>
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			<![CDATA[ "cave art" for me ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 13:58:17 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Andre Navarro</author>
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			<![CDATA[ You know how comics are popularly referred to in Brazil? Gibis. Pronounced geebees. No, not GBs as in "graphic books" or something. Gibi as in "child".<br /><br />And the "formal" name for comics here is Revistas Em Quadrinhos, roughly translated to Panel Magazines (actually, "quadrinhos" means "little <del >squares</del> frames", which is how we actually refer to comic panels, so Little Frames Magazines). <br /><br />EDIT: lower in the thread, DC corrected me -- somehow (i.e. mental retardation) I overlooked that "quadrinho" is diminutive for "quadro" (frame), not "quadrado" (square).<br /><br />So think about that next time "comics" seems innapropriate to you. BEHOLD MY MISERY. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 14:02:40 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Will Ellwood</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Andre, of all the people I know you have the singular ability to be miserable anywhere. You were even upset when I mailed the Greek comics to you and forgot to pay the customs fees. <br /><br />Who'd have thought blocks of marble weighing many tons per panel would be so expensive to post?<br /><br />I like my comics inscribed on the side of temples. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 14:07:06 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>celan</author>
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			<![CDATA[ We would love to have our very own night murderer to care for and love but they are not allowed in our apartment complex. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 14:13:25 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Andre Navarro</author>
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			<![CDATA[ @Ginja - I meant GREEK STREET you illiterate bunch of sentient ginger hair not Greek blocks of marble I can't even walk around my apartment now and one of them fell through the floor and crushed the neighbor's night murderer ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 14:21:55 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Nyx</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Picture stories.<br /><br />Sequential art.<br /><br />Drawlies. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 14:31:28 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>William Joseph Dunn</author>
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			<![CDATA[ my last cat was more of a "night vomiter" than night murder. later on he became a "carpet sprinkler". ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 14:34:22 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>DC</author>
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			<![CDATA[ <blockquote >And the "formal" name for comics here is Revistas Em Quadrinhos, roughly translated to Panel Magazines (actually, "quadrinhos" means "little squares", which is how we actually refer to comic panels, so Little Squares Magazines). </blockquote>Unless there's something I'm missing in the difference between Portuguese and Brazilian Portuguese "quadrinhos" is translated to "little frames", more in tone with what comics (and cinema) really are, sequential frames. Little squares are "quadradinhos".<br />We call it "banda desenhada", the same as in France "bande dessinée" (drawn strip) and in Japan it's "manga" (whimsical pictures?) and in Italy it's "fumetti" (which comes from "smoke" of the thought balloons) and in Spain it's "tébeo" (the name came from "TBO", a magazine that published comics in the 20's) or "historieta" (which is a derogative term for "story"). <br /><br />Some depreciative names in there, right? Depends on your point of view, I don't have a problem with the words, they all mean the same and it only depends on the idea the person has of what comics (manga, bande dessinée, gibis) are. If people are ignorant, they associate the words with a bad thing. It depends on us to chance what people thing about comics. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 14:42:46 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Paul Renderwrx</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I was hoping someone would mention what comics are called outside of english speaking countries. I've never been too clear on the meanings of the names from France/Italy and brazil, etc, now I do. Thanks Andre and DC. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 14:43:05 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>tim12s</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Because if they were called Colin, there'd be a very great chance that they'd be Chartered Accountants, possibly married to someone called Fiona and maybe own a nightmurderer called Lord Tinkerbottom.<br /><br /><br />THATS why comics. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 14:46:51 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Andre Navarro</author>
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			<![CDATA[ <blockquote >Unless there's something I'm missing in the difference between Portuguese and Brazilian Portuguese "quadrinhos" is translated to "little frames", more in tone with what comics (and cinema) really are, sequential frames. Little squares are "quadradinhos".</blockquote><br /><br />You are absolutely correct. It was my (absolutely retarded) mistake. It's Little Frames.<br /><br /><blockquote >and in Spain it's "tébeo" (the name came from "TBO", a magazine that published comics in the 20's)</blockquote><br /><br />Mmm, "gibi", aside from meaning "child" or "boy" back in the day, also came from the name of an old Brazilian comic, and ended up becoming synonimous with comics.<br /><br /><img src="http://www.universohq.com/quadrinhos/images/gibi40.jpg" alt="" > ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 14:49:33 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>BrianMowrey</author>
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			<![CDATA[ This is a thread about what comics are called <br /><br />I dont understan do comic books care what you crazy non-English speaking people call them ?? Your words are just sounds you make cause you cant figure out how to speak Human<br /><br />Please people this is a serious discussion. If comics don't get called a fancy word by English speakers then they might disappear from history ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 14:53:03 -0700</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[ No problem.<br />What's funny is that you call them "revistas aos quadrinhos" (little frames magazines) and some people in here call them "revistas aos quadradinhos" (little square magazines) which is kinda stupid because comics aren't always squares... ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 14:58:03 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>chris g</author>
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			<![CDATA[ in spanish we call them "cuentos" which translates to "tales" but everyone says cuentos when referring to magazines.<br /><br />Or "cómic" but pronounced "coh-meek." Can't decided whether that's sexy or not. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 14:59:32 -0700</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[ <blockquote >I dont understan do comic books care what you crazy non-English speaking people call them ?? Your words are just sounds you make cause you cant figure out how to speak Human</blockquote>Ahahahah well, between the comics community we use the word "comics" to describe comics from north America in the same way you (and we) use manga for Japanese books. The word won’t die out and we can still speak Human?<br /><br />I remembered another word the Spanish use for comics which is... banda deseñada. Damn those French, they wanted for everyone to speak what they speak.<br /><br />Edit:<blockquote ><br />in spanish we call them "cuentos" which translates to "tales" but everyone says cuentos when referring to magazines.</blockquote>Probably depends on the region. Banda deseñada is used in Galiza (north of Spain, closer to Portugal) whereas other regions call them comics. And it also depends on your age, old people call them one thing, the younger generations always go to the foreign words. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 15:00:21 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>warrenellis</author>
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			<![CDATA[ i am disappointed by the lack of appreciation for my suavity, thwarted though it may be ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 15:00:35 -0700</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[ also that none of you apparently read DO ANYTHING ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 15:12:42 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Paul Renderwrx</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Just so we know what warren Ellis is talking about, go here <a href="http://www.bleedingcool.com/2009/09/29/do-anything-018-by-warren-ellis/" ><br /><br />I'm very much aware of this column and plan on quoting from it for an article I'm writing about this very particular subject.</a> ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 15:36:31 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>kperkins</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I think they read it Warren, but didn't retain it.<br />And hence forth you shall be called Warren "Rico" Suavé. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 17:20:20 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>TAL</author>
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			<![CDATA[ In Swedish it's "serietidning"<br />In Finnish it's "sarjakuvalehti" ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 17:51:38 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>rough night</author>
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			<![CDATA[ <blockquote >Picture stories. Sequential art. Drawlies.</blockquote><br />Those are terrible names for cats.<br /><br />I used to have a cat that would more accurately be described as a night torturer. He didn't kill his victims, but made found art using their stunned, blinking bodies and his bright red food dish. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 20:59:24 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Jamie Coville</author>
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			<![CDATA[ IIRC it was Charles Biro, editor of Lev Gleason publications tried renaming comic books to "Illustories." ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2010 01:20:45 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Paul Renderwrx</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Jamie,<br /><br />When was this? 50's or 60's I am assuming? Any more to the story? He just started calling his books that and it never took off? ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2010 05:40:42 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Jamie Coville</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Yeah, Boy Comics was re-named Boy Illustories with issue 43 (December, 1948) to issue 91 (December, 1953.) He also did this with Daredevil Comics (then being called just Daredevil) but changed the tag line to "The Greatest in Illustories" with issue 51 (November, 1948.) While the tag line was eventually removed he would continue to use Illustories on the cover until issue 107 (February. 1954.)<br /><br />There might be other books that also used the term Illustories on them, just don't have time to check them all for dates and issues right now. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2010 09:59:57 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>sacredchao</author>
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			<![CDATA[ My cat used to be a "gopher murderer" and an "other cat's ass-kicker", but now he's just a lazy bastard who prefers to crap next to the litter box instead of in it. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2010 13:03:00 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Paul Renderwrx</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Thanks Jamie for the history lesson. Very interesting. And Gleason was a mover and shaker in his day and if he couldn't get a change back in the early years, so to speak, there's probably no way it could happen now. Maybe only if Marvel and DC were to start calling them something else. That would never happen would it? ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2010 13:34:16 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>joe.distort</author>
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			<![CDATA[ why would they? ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2010 16:45:47 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>johnjones</author>
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			<![CDATA[ As of now, I demand that one of you creative people write and sell me sequential art about night murderers.<br /><br />And if they happen to kill a lot of leg-hump slobberers, so much the better. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2010 17:07:06 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Aurora Borealis</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Since we're throwing names of comics in other countries... here's in Polish.<br /><br />singular: komiks, plural: komiksy. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2010 17:14:49 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Will Ellwood</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I think I'm going to use the Polish words now. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2010 19:26:11 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Corey Waits</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I like Illustories, but that's probably because I like smushing two words together to make a new one. It's a pass-time of mine. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 01:02:48 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>D.J.</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Illustories is kind of neat, but by the end of the day everyone would be calling them 'illus' and I'm not sure if I like that or not. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 01:13:09 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>keyofsilence</author>
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			<![CDATA[ "Pictoral Literature" - or "Piclit" for short. <br /><br />brb, sobbing ]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 01:15:53 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>PatrickBrown</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Paul Renderwrx:<br /><blockquote >Maybe only if Marvel and DC were to start calling them something else. That would never happen would it?</blockquote><br /><br />I seem to remember Marvel tried calling themselves "Marvel Pop Art Productions" at one point during the sixties. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 04:36:18 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Paul Renderwrx</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Jamie,<br /><br />Are you the same Jamie Coville who did this <a href="http://www.thecomicbooks.com/" > website?</a> ]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 06:22:50 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Jamie Coville</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Paul: Yes. ]]>
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		<title>Why are we still calling them &quot;comics&quot;?</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 07:49:59 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>microclimate</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Some of the examples given above remind me of the dillholes who insisted po-faced that from now on, we should say "Speculative Fiction" rather than "Science Fiction"; also the fratbros who tried to coin the genre "skullstep" a few years ago, as a pointless subdivision of a peculiar corner of DnB. <br /><br />It's almost an interesting question, but most of the time, such things need to evolve fairly naturally to not sound forced and pretentious, rather than be imposed under pressure. If an idea has some measure of "fitness", it will catch on and spread, as Nice Prof. Dawkins points out. It needs to appeal to enough potential hosts/vectors to go anywhere, though. If it's just jarring and daft, then it will fall on its face, often.<br /><br />That said, the potential for silly splicing mischief, like "illustories" is great. Thanks, Hanks. Thanks.<br /><br />Edit: Forgot to say- the suave Mr. Ellis has an excellent point, that what you call a publication affects how the author and readers approach it, to a degree. However, if nowt else, "comics" has become so dilute that it has lost a lot of its baggage, simply referring to something mostly made of toothsome illustrations and carefully enbubbled(tm) text. The General Public can just about get their heads around "comic" and "graphic novel" (the latter is thicker and less floppy, as far as they're concerned). Caution would have to be exercised if attempting anything too confusingly racy, lest heads assplode. In a bad way. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 10:09:25 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>helloMuller</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Here is Warren proudly looking at his suavely derailed threads: <img src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_d7qNA1nasD0/S-QNAP5yFiI/AAAAAAAAAsI/AQzJl5TOhmU/s1600/Rico+Suave.jpg" alt="" > ]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 10:50:56 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>celan</author>
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			<![CDATA[ @helloMuller<br />Needs photoshopping. <em >hint hint</em> ]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 11:01:55 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>city creed</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I can't see how this could possibly go wrong... ]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 12:01:52 -0700</pubDate>
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			<![CDATA[ is this thread still open? ]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 13:11:02 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>joe.distort</author>
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			<![CDATA[ shockingly...im just waiting for a link to megan sweets in various states of undress as supergirl, which i assume would finally kill it. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 13:24:55 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>sneak046</author>
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			<![CDATA[ mine's more of a night-cuddler than a night-murderer ]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 15:09:17 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Jamie Coville</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Maybe I'm just being crabby, but I'm waiting for the day publishers start calling them Paper Movies (© Steven Grant) because a lot of comics these days are movie pitches first and an attempt to be an entertaining comic second. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 21:10:10 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Brendan McGinley</author>
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			<![CDATA[ But...they don't move. <br /><br />We call them comics because that's what I grew up with and I'm not changing for you or any of those people who awkwardly refer to me as a "Graphic novelist" for fear of offending me. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 21:45:57 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Ariana</author>
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			<![CDATA[ <img src="http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y105/unbeheld/lolcats/lolcat_reading.jpg" alt="" > ]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Aug 2010 22:15:18 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Warped Savant</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I don't know about you guys, but but the last few months I've been calling them KRAKEN SCRIPTURES.<br /><br />It makes it so that if one is particularly bad I can shout "Release the Kraken!" and then throw it at someone.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />I'm not allowed at my grannies anymore... I tried explaining that it would only happen on Wednesday's, but she still said no. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2010 07:21:35 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>mister hex</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Coming soon :Whitechapelese, in which "comics" = "Kraken Scriptures", "cats"= "night murderers", \<br />"arse eels" = "justice", etc ... ]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2010 19:36:22 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>kperkins</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Did someone say photoshop?<br /><br /><img src="http://keithperkins.net/files/warrenSuave.jpg" alt="" ><br /><br /><br />And now, I believe I hear arse eels slithering around behind me.  Good night and god bless. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Aug 2010 07:58:58 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Erisah</author>
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			<![CDATA[ <blockquote >I used to have a cat that would more accurately be described as a night torturer. He didn't kill his victims, but made found art using their stunned, blinking bodies and his bright red food dish. </blockquote><br /><br />My somewhat stepmother has a feline night torturer that likes to catch mice or lizards then drop them in the bathtub so that she can have her own little arena in which she can torture her victims at leisure, seeing as they can't get out. Somewhat stepmum is the kind of person who cries when she sees mice caught in traps, so this never ends well. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Aug 2010 09:59:03 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>warrenellis</author>
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			<![CDATA[ YEAH YOU BETTER RUN KPERKINS ]]>
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