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    • CommentTimeAug 22nd 2010 edited
    I wrote the outline, Mike wrote the script and then drew it, and then one or two of you read it. Thoughts?

    My time on this particular stretch for GRAVEL ends with #21, by the way -- I'm licensing the title to AVATAR for a while, and Mike will create new stories himself, which I'll be approving.

    -- W
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    For those of you with little self-control, who might peruse this thread before properly reading GRAVEL #20, be warned: Of the 20 issues of the series thus far, this issue lies dead center in the heart of Spoilertown, on the corner of Disbelief Street and Youfuckers Ave.
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    Holy Crap!

    I was just starting to like her! But I figured she wou-- Holy crap! Him too?!? But... I thoug--- WHA?!?

    Yeah, that was kind of how my thoughts were going as I read this issue. This is the first issue in this arc that actually got my attention. At first I was thinking that Gravel and Co. had something up their sleeves... I don't think so anymore. Which is too bad, I liked some of those kids and I thought they had a lot of potential. I'm curious to see where this goes. Personally, I'd like it to be Gravel stopping weird shit from happening with the help of magic... but hey, that's just me.

    Ellis -- Too bad you won't be doing the outlines anymore. I've liked your ideas.

    Mr. Wolfer -- Keep it up! I hope that you continue to be the artist as well as the writer.
    • CommentAuthorJJVV
    • CommentTimeAug 26th 2010
    Another great issue..and yeah I also liked you know who as well...says a lot about Ellis and Wolfer that they can make us care about character we just met recently.

    Now how cool would it be to read an issue of Gravel guest written by Garth Ennis??
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    I didn't see that coming. Kids, we hardly knew you.
    My only complaint (maybe more of an observation) is that Gravel's character didn't seem right. It could be due to the role of King Magician being new to Gravel. As I read the comic, I kept thinking to myself this doesn't sound like him.

    Well I love the series and I'm ready for 20 more issues.
    • CommentAuthoricelandbob
    • CommentTimeAug 26th 2010
    Hopefully it'll be in the shops next week, when i gets paid....

    I lost the game and read some of the comments: I know this won´t be good fro Gravel. Damn!!

    But i thank you Warren for creating a great character and i feel that Mike is a good soul to pass the torch onto. It's also reassuring you'll be checking up on the stories for a bit of quality control (not that Mike will need it mind...)
    • CommentTimeAug 27th 2010
    it's been a great run and I can't wait to see how this arc ends. I did like the kids though and hate seeing that

    I don't know what's going to happen next week, but based on the previous Gravel stories I'd say he is going to hit somebody (somebodies) with something very hard many many many times until the situation is resolved. He's doing what he doesn't do well now, over-analyzing things. Once he realizes this he'll just fuck someone's shit up very badly, and that is just fine with me.
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    I just got to the part where Bible Jack rips Kayleigh's face off. Yeah... thanks for that.

    Fucking hell....

    [deep breath]

    Back to it then....
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    alright. well. thanks for that. what's gonna happen next?!? how does this arc conclude?!? I agree with LBA in that, once Gravel snaps out of his "figure this out" mode and into "fuck shit up" mode, this'll all get sorted out quick like.

    Mike Wolfer himself turned me onto this title at Wizard World Chicago last year and it's become one of my favorite reads. I've gone back and read the Strange Killings, etc. Some seriously twisted, wickedly awesome fucked up shit there. I enjoyed Gravel's recap of those events to his initiates earlier in this arc. and yeah... who among us wasn't getting attached to the new minor seven? I don't know if anything like this has ever been done before in comics? building up the assembly of a "new team" for 5 issues and then systematically destroying them, violently and unmercifully. bravo, gents, for the both the setup and execution (... get it.... execution... haha?)

    I found Mike Wolfer to be a very passionate and energetic fellow, especially when discussing this title, which he obviously has a deep affection for. I have no doubts whatsoever that Gravel's future will be well-tended in his capable hands. While Warren Ellis's titles make up the majority of my regular reads, this title in particular stands apart from the rest of his oeuvre. There's a compassion towards Gravel as a character (which ends in this issue, obviously). It feels really surreal subscribing to a monthly title about a combat magician. In all my years of collecting comic books, this title definitely has a unique appeal to me... like Doktor Sleepless, but, again, more sympathetic. Then again... could be the pints talking.

    OH! and the art! those chapters in the first arc that oscar jiminez drew, while beautiful, just felt wrong... off... Like watching an actor play a famous person whose appearance is already familiar to you. No one should draw Gravel but Mike. it's all in the nose. ;D
    • CommentTimeAug 28th 2010
    @Professor Imagine - in pints veritas
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    Disbelief Street and Youfuckers Ave...




    Yeah, that's where I am.

    And Mike is writing Gravel solo a bit? I'M FUCKING THERE!

    As long as Warren promises to clunk all concerned on the head if we get another Maths/ Math Lab type screw up...
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    Tough learning curve for the minor seven. They all get failing grades.
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    ... just occurred to me this morning: John B. is still out there, somewhere. Be nice to see him return and lend Gravel a helping hand. Also, that minor seven guy from Cornwall, "On Ilkey Moor Bat 'at" didn't actually die, but just kind of wandered off...

    just listing the loose ends that might be woven back into the narrative, now that Gravel seems in over his head, as it were.
    • CommentTimeAug 31st 2010
    I really love this series. It's been such a great thrill seeing Gravel build all this up from the beginning, when we didn't quite see where he was going at first (the issue that revealed he was the one killing the major 7 was such a great reveal). Similar to others I am sad to see the kingdom topple so soon (or is it?) but that's what I like more than anything - being surprised. Great show and I've no doubt the book is in great hands. I'm not going anywhere after 21, which I wait for with bated breath. Kudos to all involved.
    • CommentAuthorales kot
    • CommentTimeSep 5th 2010
    Nice one.

    Last page made me smile. I just re-read Batman: Gothic and Grant uses Oranges and Lemons there as well. Nineteen Eighty-Four all over again.