Tue, 21 May 2013 02:04:34 -0700 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/ Lussumo Vanilla 1.1.4 & Feed Publisher http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=256629#Comment_256629 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=256629#Comment_256629 Mon, 23 Aug 2010 08:48:55 -0700 Val A Lindsay II
In this age of synthesizers, sampling and turntables what is the future of the standalone instrument? The piano and guitar can easily be interpreted as the epitomes of musical instruments, but have you been playing with something that's not in the mainstream? Something that makes a noise that moves your soul?

Tell us about it! ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=256635#Comment_256635 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=256635#Comment_256635 Mon, 23 Aug 2010 09:26:12 -0700 keyofsilence
I've had a go with various synths and drum machines, but they'll never match up to my "standalone" instruments. I see way too much possibility in guitars for me to ever put them down. I say the future of standalone instruments is very bright, and no amount of electronics will ever displace them. I'd say they live in harmony now, and always will. While laptops can be very powerful musical instruments nowadays, we'll never be able to part with "organic" instruments. They're not just for music, they're also a part of our history and respective heritages.

As a final note, I can't wait for offtandiscord to tell us all about his Aeolian Violin and Windjo and mind-powered symphony machine that doubles as a doomsday device. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=256638#Comment_256638 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=256638#Comment_256638 Mon, 23 Aug 2010 09:30:00 -0700 PatrickBrown http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=256641#Comment_256641 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=256641#Comment_256641 Mon, 23 Aug 2010 09:46:44 -0700 Val A Lindsay II
I've felt that I've been playing a dead instrument for years now. Not that I want it to die nor has it stopped me from investing a lot of time and ringing a lot of pleasure from it, mind you. It's just twisting new things out of it is getting harder and harder. Not to mention there's a ton of information on line about it.

A new instrument with a new sound; Now that's what I'm looking for. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=256653#Comment_256653 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=256653#Comment_256653 Mon, 23 Aug 2010 10:59:27 -0700 0neiromancer as my go to instrument but it'll be awhile. It's certainly left me wondering why alot of 80's synth pop
sounded shit, because it sounds amazing.

I think there are still innovative mods left to be done with guitars, from the wiring and electronics
down to the construction materials. Pedal mods have gotten extremely popular in the last 5
years, and I've done a few minor ones myself to really great results. I've been pondering how
to wire a keyboard mod-wheel into a guitar pickup for awhile, but I'm not super sharp on
manufacturing my own chip boards and such, and I don't like having alot of electronics onboard
the guitar.

The thing is, with few exceptions the engines of synthesis that the 90's brought us haven't even
been used to their fullest extent yet. People seem to spend alot of money on equipment that
reproduces another sound rather than creating a new one. It would be entirely feasible to
cram an orchestra into a digital drumkit, assign the sections to each drum, set it to arpeggiate
the sequence of notes you want, and bam. Never seen it done yet though. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=256656#Comment_256656 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=256656#Comment_256656 Mon, 23 Aug 2010 11:00:57 -0700 nigredo
Compare that to the advent of the synthesiser. Compare it to the advent of soft synths and music software that has replaced virtually any need for a composer and/or producer to rely on other people. Consider Zappa and his synclavier, Vangelis and his CS-80, Tangerine and their Moogs, Fred Frith and Derek Bailey and their guitars, Coltrane and his sax, Henry Cowell and his prepared pianos, Milford Graves and his drums, any musique concrete composer, including the BBC Radiophonic Workshop. The sounds keep coming, unexpectedly, inadvertedly, serendipitously, by design and sustained effort, endlessly. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=256659#Comment_256659 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=256659#Comment_256659 Mon, 23 Aug 2010 11:04:38 -0700 nigredo
I've got a Juno 6, which is a lovely synth. Absolutely love it. I completely agree, the potential of synthesis has not been fully explored yet. Long way to go yet. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=256661#Comment_256661 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=256661#Comment_256661 Mon, 23 Aug 2010 11:12:01 -0700 BettyBoolean http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=256664#Comment_256664 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=256664#Comment_256664 Mon, 23 Aug 2010 11:26:44 -0700 Val A Lindsay II
Trust me, I'll never give up on the guitar. ;)

@nigredo

Actually I'm moved more by drums as a guitarist than anything. I hear a drum beat and it inspires me to play all sorts of different things. I've thought of trying to produce a different kind of physical drumset, even to something as simple as cardboard...

]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=256691#Comment_256691 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=256691#Comment_256691 Mon, 23 Aug 2010 15:08:55 -0700 rickiep00h Imagine... that the technology existed that would allow us to translate faithfully the thought of a sound into its acoustic equivalent, exactly the way we thought and imagined it.

Given the time and the proper know-how, a good FM synth will get you just about any sound you could imagine. It's horribly complex, and the main thing is getting the sound out of your head and into the synth. If you can eliminate the middle-man of the left brain portion of "getting the sound right" and focus on "getting the sound," you'll be a very rich fellow indeed. At that point, though, something must become the instrument, or at the very least the transducer converting from "thought" to "sound". Some machine to read brain waves, or what have you. Call it the Brainsynth, I don't know.

As for the jamming point, the appeal of jamming is getting other people's influence. Collaborative art. So no, you wouldn't miss that with such a system. It's just that your cost to entry--being able to physically play something--would be removed. Anyone could do it. Which therefore leads to more jamming. Theoretically, anyway.

It would only be a matter of time until the lead Brainsynth player tried to drown everyone else in the group out with his Brainsynth wankery. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=256716#Comment_256716 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=256716#Comment_256716 Mon, 23 Aug 2010 20:01:24 -0700 CryptSphinx say , using waw pedal+ octave shift down + square wave filter - then change the midrange . playing slide blues sounds insane.

Even not-so-inventive stuff -I use the bass to simulate a heart beat in the build up to a song -
(palm mute the strings while thumping the body of the guitar)

I think we will keep finding ways to innovate with the instruments we have , less used scales , tempos , time signatures etc .

I've been buying some old synths and general noise making electronics in charity shops and e-bay and with a bit of tinkering I hope to be
performing with them soon enough

I cant wait to hear the music I will be telling my clone-children to turn down. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=256717#Comment_256717 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=256717#Comment_256717 Mon, 23 Aug 2010 20:18:03 -0700 James Puckett
And the internet has completely changed the way people learn to play music. You don’t have to be limited to the local music teachers any more. There are thousands of video courses available online for learning just about any instrument and style of music, allowing teachers to work with students anywhere in the world.

Both of those are going to combine in a sharing of musical styles and instruments across cultures. In a decade a Texan will be able to buy a low-cost, high-quality electric Sitar made in Indonesia, take lessons from a teacher in India, and collaborate with a musician in Copenhagen. Synths will fit into all of this somehow, but they’re not going to dominate any more than they already do. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=256727#Comment_256727 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=256727#Comment_256727 Mon, 23 Aug 2010 22:06:42 -0700 Val A Lindsay II
I'm not concerned about the future if synthesis. It's here to stay. I'm more interested in new traditional one-voice instruments. Guitar and piano have endured mostly for their versatility in playing complete arrangements that include rhythm, percussion and range of scale. the keyboard is a logical input device for synth and I've watched as companies have struggled to make a guitar a midi device, a goal that I think is futile because although working midi guitars exist, they lack any of the subtlety and nuance that allows me to do everything from harmonics to distinguished slurring.

Maybe I'm fooling myself that there is a new, exciting standalone instrument I'm not aware of to employ musically. The simple analog nature of the acoustic guitar was what made me start this thread. It's an instrument that epitomizes analog and the versatility of a box, a few strings and frets, allowing for nothing more than human interaction to make amazing sounds.

@CryptSphinx

I have guitars set up in coil-tap, phase switching, cut-off switches, etc. I've played with different capacitors in the tone knob, but this Tone-X knob from Chandler guitars looks really interesting. I've also wanted to set up a rheostat in place of the toggle switch to mix between neck and bridge pickups, but haven't found a good way to wire it up yet...

Edit: Oh yes, almost forgot. For the synth lovers...

]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=256729#Comment_256729 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=256729#Comment_256729 Mon, 23 Aug 2010 22:56:43 -0700 Erisah The day a computer can produce the expression for a convincing jazz clarinet solo will be the day I convert. Until then, original is best. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=256745#Comment_256745 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=256745#Comment_256745 Tue, 24 Aug 2010 03:40:34 -0700 Verissimus

Sho, an amazing Japanese instrument based on the Chinese sheng. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=256750#Comment_256750 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=256750#Comment_256750 Tue, 24 Aug 2010 04:17:22 -0700 Erisah
So then they made beautiful music together, and then one day along came little Sho. Who went back in time and saved the universe. But that's another story. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=256753#Comment_256753 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=256753#Comment_256753 Tue, 24 Aug 2010 04:54:28 -0700 offtandiscord
Synthetic instruments are becoming a lot more realistic, some of 'em have Gigabytes worth of information just for one instrument. The Drumkit from Hell, for instance, rarely plays the same exact snare sound. It has a database of hundreds of very slightly different snare sounds to pick from to try and recreate the human element of variation when hitting a snare. They're applying it to tons of other instruments too, a good friend has a violin synth that has I think about 3 Gig of violin sounds...

I don't think anything will overtake proper instruments when it comes to musicians who want to play real music, but I think people are branching out a lot more now and finding instruments from other cultures to play or mixing different sounds or techniques of playing into what they're used to.

and there's tons of new instruments that are mixing MIDI controllers and synths into organic playing techniques. The Moog guitar is an amazing piece of kit that adds new elements to a regular guitar, I've seen MIDI controlled didgeridoo's, flourescent light bulbs being played, Ranjit Bhatnagar over at Moonmilk has been doing amazing things with instruments and very basic electrical controls. Not that getting instruments to play themselves is anything new, he's just been applying it to new things.

I shy away from building any electronic instruments, if I wanted to make a synth i'd rather find a way to make an acoustic version of what a synth would sound like.

the links on the left of my blog have a few good links to places that deal with new/weird instruments http://vulpestruments.blogspot.com/ ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=256758#Comment_256758 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=256758#Comment_256758 Tue, 24 Aug 2010 06:25:29 -0700 Verissimus http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=256761#Comment_256761 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=256761#Comment_256761 Tue, 24 Aug 2010 06:43:58 -0700 aike
I think it will be hard to come up with truly new non-electronic instruments. Variations on old, for certain, but truly new? Doubtful. But what there is now is an ever greater palette of tools with which to take on the sounds that are everywhere anyhow. From harmonic shifting and rebalancing; powerful transposing, shifting and warping tools to things like psychoacoustic sampling like the guys at Spectrasonics are doing - I think that is the future.

The other thing then is finding new ways of handling those tools. Interface design is where things will really get interesting and where there is a lot of room for innovation. Things like the Eigenharp or Reactable are just steps moving towards new ideas of how sound can be interfaced with. How can we best handle sound? We used to require strings or pipes, now we can make any sound we want, and twist and distort them in any way. The creative part is now making that process intuitive and easy, but also understandable and creative, rather than random and confusing.

However, having said all that, in terms of sound, instruments and creativity, I think Diego Stocco is the man. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=256765#Comment_256765 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=256765#Comment_256765 Tue, 24 Aug 2010 07:02:27 -0700 offtandiscord http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=256766#Comment_256766 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=256766#Comment_256766 Tue, 24 Aug 2010 07:09:55 -0700 Kradlum http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=256768#Comment_256768 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=256768#Comment_256768 Tue, 24 Aug 2010 07:17:41 -0700 Aurora Borealis Tim Exile - Promo
Tim Exile - Youtube Killed The Now Wave Star

All the synths, basslines and other sounds (and part of the beats) are pretty much his voice recorded and manipulated live! ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=256774#Comment_256774 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=256774#Comment_256774 Tue, 24 Aug 2010 07:45:50 -0700 ian holloway
I'm a long time fan of people such as Einsturzende Neubeuten who have such a beautifully profound approach to percussion that it amazes me that it's never really been explored further outside of avantists such as themselves and z'ev.
check out the plastic tubes used here - beautiful

i am currently obsessing over the ukulele my partner bought me about a year and a half ago. it's gone pretty much everywhere with me since then - it's sitting across my lap as i type this - and i've just worked out 'Rise' by Pil which has made me very happy.

I'm off on a short break tomorrow (to glastonbury) and intend to buy myself a small accordian (if the shop still stocks them). ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=256941#Comment_256941 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=256941#Comment_256941 Wed, 25 Aug 2010 03:52:48 -0700 TF Something that makes a noise that moves your soul?

When I saw Les Claypool play a whamola I had to have one. I went to Etsy and gave a guy money and yay!!!!



I still have a dream of a Whamola / Theremin track - and I've played around with this in one thing I've recorded but I know I can do better.

I think that the future of standalone instruments may well be in synths running on an ipad/iphone/ipod/other. They're bright, shiny, sexy - but then I remember being in school after a Christmas when half the kids got keyboards and what a valueless present that turned out to be for all.

I think guitars, pianos etc. will have a place because they're more impressive, they appear to require more skill. Sonically they may continue to tread on old ground but a big guy playing drums will be sexier and cooler than a big guy playing a drum app on an iPad and since everyone wants to impress the opposite sex that's that. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=257090#Comment_257090 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=257090#Comment_257090 Wed, 25 Aug 2010 20:49:13 -0700 rickiep00h I think guitars, pianos etc. will have a place because they're more impressive, they appear to require more skill. Sonically they may continue to tread on old ground but a big guy playing drums will be sexier and cooler than a big guy playing a drum app on an iPad and since everyone wants to impress the opposite sex that's that.I'm gonna have to say this might be a bad choice of words. Sometimes a dude's just trying to play drums really well.Is Gene sexy and cool? ;-) You know how much work it would be to program that into a drum machine? If somebody did, I'd gladly shake their hand. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=257092#Comment_257092 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=257092#Comment_257092 Wed, 25 Aug 2010 22:00:28 -0700 Val A Lindsay II
I thought that was SYL's drummer at first glance. Yeah, he's pretty awesome.

Also, I think I might have been introduced to That One Guy here on WC previously. An excellent example of originality, using both digital and analog instrumentation...

]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=257096#Comment_257096 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=257096#Comment_257096 Wed, 25 Aug 2010 22:41:04 -0700 jonah new instruments page is a good compendium on the electronic end of things, if you haven't seen it.

As far as traditional instruments go I really like the mouth harp and all its variations. It's not new, but it's new to me. It was a revelation the first time I heard one. Everything I liked about acid techno in an ancient instrument! It's magical. It would be interesting to hear the sound a giant mechanical version might make.

On the digital side I've been really absorbed with the novation launchpad paired with five12's numerology. I'm using that combo along with tons of samples of the human voice. Even though the human voice is the oldest instrument I get tons of inspiration from it and feel there are still so many sonic possibilities, especially combined with modern technology.

A brainsynth would probably be one of the worst things I could combine with my method of music making. Hmmm, brainsynth feedback loops, sounds like a good idea! I'd probably be catatonic within six months of owning one. A Cronenberg synth on the other hand...

To all the instrument builders:
The movie Eri Eri rema sabakutani had a scene where they attached hoses up to the spinning mechanism in a box fan and it made a really beautiful celestial drone. If you like the sound you get when you swing a hose around with your arm, it's like that, but more. It's pretty easy to make one, but I did some damage when the hoses flew off. Don't use tape! Haha. There are lots of individual things you can tweak to make the sound your own, too. For example, depending on the speed you set the fan at you can change the tone of the drone or you could try using hard pvc piping, glue a playing card to the edge to add a click track, multiples, etc. Fun.

Are there any traditional instruments that operate on the same spinning principle? Conceptually I find it really attractive. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=257153#Comment_257153 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=257153#Comment_257153 Thu, 26 Aug 2010 08:35:26 -0700 offtandiscord
there's lots of traditional instruments that have used drone by adding resonant strings, sitar's, certain violins have had sympathetic strings added underneath the neck to add drones, native american flutes often had 2 chambers, one for drone and another for variable notes etc. and not forgetting the bagpipe, which has a whole bunch of droning capabilities.

history loves drone. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=257157#Comment_257157 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=257157#Comment_257157 Thu, 26 Aug 2010 09:20:49 -0700 oogliemooglie http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=257171#Comment_257171 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=257171#Comment_257171 Thu, 26 Aug 2010 11:11:27 -0700 TF I'm gonna have to say this might be a bad choice of words

Tongue in cheek sir, tongue in cheek :-) ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=257348#Comment_257348 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=257348#Comment_257348 Fri, 27 Aug 2010 07:57:14 -0700 rickiep00h Tongue in cheek sir, tongue in cheek :-)Mine too. I assume Gene gets all the ladies.

My point is, though, anyone that does anything creative and does it well is worthy of respect, because it's fucking hard to do. I don't care if it's guitar or synth or fucking spoons, it's gotta come out of the brain somehow. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=257502#Comment_257502 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=257502#Comment_257502 Fri, 27 Aug 2010 19:53:51 -0700 Erisah blanket hatred of techno. I've heard people do awesome things with synth, but considering that your average popular dance techno rap thing involves two, maybe three riffs, a one-dimensional bassline and a drum machine that any ten year old with rudimentary knowledge of harmony and a sampler can make... for me it's like someone saying they're an artist because they can do paint-by-numbers.

The one that really pissed me off though was when someone took the first phrase of Brahms' Hungarian Dances (it's one of my favourite pieces from that era, and they used a phrase that felt particularly wrong because it it ended on the third IIRC) and then looped that with a really poor rap over the top... I swear, I was about ready to rip the radio out of the dash I was that miffed. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=257857#Comment_257857 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=257857#Comment_257857 Sun, 29 Aug 2010 21:45:40 -0700 Erisah

Now that is hardcore. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=257996#Comment_257996 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=257996#Comment_257996 Mon, 30 Aug 2010 17:14:20 -0700 EelockTheWarrior
]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=258352#Comment_258352 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=258352#Comment_258352 Wed, 01 Sep 2010 13:57:26 -0700 EvJ I think guitars, pianos etc. will have a place because they're more impressive, they appear to require more skill. Sonically they may continue to tread on old ground but a big guy playing drums will be sexier and cooler than a big guy playing a drum app on an iPad and since everyone wants to impress the opposite sex that's that.
I'd tend to agree. Moreover, I don't see the point (besides simple convenience, which is important) of replicating the experience of acoustic instruments with electronic ones. Electronics do what they do very well, be that anything from breakbeats to acousmatic tape work, but they do the work of acoustic instruments very poorly. Even an excellently sampled violin won't replicate a violin without the tactile interaction of the performer.

I think the future of electronic performance is in manipulation of sound, rather than in replication of its acoustic forebears. Electronic instruments can sculpt sound in ways that are beyond the potential of acoustic systems. That is both their blessing and their curse, in that one of the big barriers to people finding them impressive is that notion that any sound can come out of them at any time, with no limits whatsoever. Thanks to the nature of computer systems, this issue is wedded to electronic music forever, and will increasingly become problematic. One of the things that can bridge that gap, between the performer's actions and the "any" sound that results is demonstrably limiting the source material. If you can clearly see that the performer is using only broken vinyl or radio noise as a source, and they sculpt that into beautiful music that sounds like it comes directly from the source, the impressiveness returns.

How this will be achieved is impossible to know, because the beauty of the whole thing is that everyone will be able to create any kind of instrument to do anything in future. As long as they're careful to make sure the audience can understand what they're up to, they'll start getting back that impressiveness. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=258375#Comment_258375 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=258375#Comment_258375 Wed, 01 Sep 2010 15:30:23 -0700 Val A Lindsay II
I'd seen that before! It's awesome! ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=258527#Comment_258527 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=258527#Comment_258527 Thu, 02 Sep 2010 09:27:12 -0700 offtandiscord
can't link or embedd anything as i'm at work, but they're well worth checking out. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=258954#Comment_258954 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=258954#Comment_258954 Sat, 04 Sep 2010 08:05:30 -0700 EvJ


However weird can work very well when it uses recognisable sound sources, like say guitar strings. I'm assuming that somewhere around here someone's posted the Bassoforte, but here it is again:

It strikes me as being mostly Ableton Live doing the digital stuff, but it could easily be programmed as a stand alone system. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=258957#Comment_258957 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=258957#Comment_258957 Sat, 04 Sep 2010 08:26:14 -0700 Val A Lindsay II
Perhaps Garageband is a good example. It's an excellent recording program in a lot of ways. It limits you just enough though to make any songs put in it sound, well, repetitious... ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=259041#Comment_259041 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8799&Focus=259041#Comment_259041 Sat, 04 Sep 2010 17:50:01 -0700 EvJ
Analogue does have something very special about it though. This evening I've been sequencing (digitally) an analogue synth, and the uncertainties of the precise sound is both satisfying of itself and at the same time demands an amount of attention similar to that of an acoustic instrument. The interaction of performer and instrument is a two way thing with analogue or acoustic instruments, with the performer reacting to feedback from the performance system. With purely digital systems it is a one way system. Not worse, of course, but it is missing something. ]]>