Sat, 18 May 2013 10:27:49 -0700 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/ Lussumo Vanilla 1.1.4 & Feed Publisher http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8816&Focus=257436#Comment_257436 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8816&Focus=257436#Comment_257436 Fri, 27 Aug 2010 13:20:51 -0700 Rachæl Tyrell
Wordpress vs Tumblr

This is an ongoing debate, both on numerous and in my own head. I've wondered why our illustrious host hasn't moved to Tumblr, considering how often he mentions that nobody goes to his site.

Will Tumblr overtake Wordpress? Will Tumblr continue to add plug n play functionality until it's the website standard? Will Tumblr be a flash in the pan like myspace, leaving all those musicians who relied so heavily on it in the dust?

Tumblr - simple, easy, ready to go. Usable with my own domain, yet hosted for me (that's a pro, right?) Ready-made audience, essentially - with viral potential in every post you make. You CAN have comments if you add DISCUS. The urls are messy, but who TYPES anything anymore? Everything is search-n-click. Ok, there's not really a way to use tumblr effectively for a portfolio site (unless you use tag-search-links as separate pages), but one could easily Dreamweaver up a portfolio and just link to a Tumblr as an external blog, right?

Wordpress - More professional? Portfolio pages and blog in one location. Items in posts can be centered, and there's more control over text. If one is widget-friendly, and auto-updated calendars and image galleries and aggregating information from elsewhere is needed, then wordpress is for you. Your posts are yours, and while that might lessen the viral nature of things, it's more likley that you'll get linked to, than someone will gank something of yours and spread it about ridding you of credit. Right? There's something ... disposable about tumblr, whereas Wordpress has an air of legitimacy?

But am I looking at all of this as someone in the net-literate minority in ways that the everyday person doesn't care about? Shouldn't CONTENT be what's important, anyway?

I'm in a muddle.

Thoughts? Ideas that I've not mentioned? ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8816&Focus=257528#Comment_257528 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8816&Focus=257528#Comment_257528 Fri, 27 Aug 2010 23:17:51 -0700 CinnamonAndSpite
I'd honestly suggest to have and keep both, and simply relegate them to different purposes. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8816&Focus=257534#Comment_257534 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8816&Focus=257534#Comment_257534 Fri, 27 Aug 2010 23:49:56 -0700 David Matthew http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8816&Focus=257542#Comment_257542 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8816&Focus=257542#Comment_257542 Sat, 28 Aug 2010 01:34:36 -0700 Rachæl Tyrell nerdboyfriend.com

If you look at the footer, it's Wordpress. But there's a link to Tumblr. And the Tumblr is identical. So... are there easy ways to port the two together? I suppose that would bridge the gap between the benefits of both, no? ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8816&Focus=257580#Comment_257580 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8816&Focus=257580#Comment_257580 Sat, 28 Aug 2010 08:43:42 -0700 MrSmite http://log.ijulien.com/post/193997383/tumblrize ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8816&Focus=257607#Comment_257607 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8816&Focus=257607#Comment_257607 Sat, 28 Aug 2010 13:01:51 -0700 lordmitz http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8816&Focus=257610#Comment_257610 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8816&Focus=257610#Comment_257610 Sat, 28 Aug 2010 14:00:19 -0700 NeilFord
I prefer having my data directly under my control if I can, so opted for using Drupal as it is a powerful CMS I know inside out and can make it do whatever I like, now & in the future.

...and that's the point really, work out what you want to do with your website and choose the system or systems that will serve that purpose, you don't have to nail your colours to the mast. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8816&Focus=257663#Comment_257663 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8816&Focus=257663#Comment_257663 Sat, 28 Aug 2010 19:06:55 -0700 Cameron C.
I use both, but for different things. Tumblr is stuff I like from other places. wordpress is/will be for more traditional type blogging. Both of them are my lovers and they are both fantastic. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8816&Focus=257681#Comment_257681 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8816&Focus=257681#Comment_257681 Sat, 28 Aug 2010 20:10:23 -0700 glukkake
I think tumblr is what it is and if it gets changed around to fit in with the other, bigger platforms it's just not even going to be a real question, because that'll be like arguing Wordpress vs Joomla vs Drupal - they're all the same thing. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8816&Focus=257700#Comment_257700 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8816&Focus=257700#Comment_257700 Sat, 28 Aug 2010 22:12:09 -0700 James Puckett http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8816&Focus=259273#Comment_259273 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8816&Focus=259273#Comment_259273 Mon, 06 Sep 2010 11:17:39 -0700 Crackstar I use Wordpress as my main blog as in my creations and I have a Tumblr blog that I post dumb shit I find on the net.
Tumblr to me is what facebook used to be. I used to love facebook because of the wall posts, status update etc. You know like one of my friends thought a video was cool posted it on their wall and then i watched it... then all of the other shit started on facebook started. (yes, I spent a time of life addicted to Mafia Wars and I am about 6 months or more sober.)
and so much for that right now...
The cry for help is this; i cross post everything to facebook because it is the only place it gets any attention. What I was hoping someone knows; My posts only get comments on facebook and i can't seem to find away to get those comments to appear on either blog. Does anybody know this answer?
I apologize if this wasn't the right place to post this, but it seemed to make sense.

also, Worpress vs. Tumblr: tied, sorry but both the pros and cons of each are about equal for me. That being said my Wordpress blog is more important to me than my Tumblr blog.

please help. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8816&Focus=259274#Comment_259274 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8816&Focus=259274#Comment_259274 Mon, 06 Sep 2010 11:31:33 -0700 warrenellis
possibly this might help with the other thing

http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2009/09/14/how-to-integrate-facebook-with-wordpress/ ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8816&Focus=259280#Comment_259280 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8816&Focus=259280#Comment_259280 Mon, 06 Sep 2010 12:23:12 -0700 Rachæl Tyrell
You CAN get Tumblr to have comments if you start a Disqus account and add it in your customization options (if the theme supports it?).

@Crackstar - Regarding Facebook attracting comments; I think the problem is that internet-culture-people find things in their net communities and trusted sites, whereas most other people just rely on Facebook at this point. Can't you just post links to things on Facebook and add some sort of auto-caveat to ask that people leave comments on your Wordpress? I noticed that WP has added the same sort of Disqus option of using your facebook login (or other options) to leave comments, so people might be more prone to do so now than they were previously.

I think Digitalyn had some success in merging her WP & tumblr recently? ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8816&Focus=259309#Comment_259309 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8816&Focus=259309#Comment_259309 Mon, 06 Sep 2010 15:32:29 -0700 Crackstar Thank you both. This whole experience has been like being a teenager dry-humping, almost there but no joy. I am closer now than I was but facebook is not co-operating. And so much for that right now.

I have learned two things today:
1. Facebook is suck (but that's not new news)
2. Tumblr is easier for posting but Wordpress is easier to customize which means more to me so,

Wordpress beats Tumblr. Selah. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8816&Focus=259344#Comment_259344 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8816&Focus=259344#Comment_259344 Mon, 06 Sep 2010 21:30:20 -0700 genaverse
Anyhow, none of this matters if you're just posting random crap you scavenged off the Internet, I guess. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8816&Focus=259353#Comment_259353 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8816&Focus=259353#Comment_259353 Tue, 07 Sep 2010 00:33:58 -0700 mercurialblonde http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8816&Focus=259356#Comment_259356 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8816&Focus=259356#Comment_259356 Tue, 07 Sep 2010 01:26:26 -0700 Vaehling http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8816&Focus=259357#Comment_259357 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8816&Focus=259357#Comment_259357 Tue, 07 Sep 2010 01:33:21 -0700 mercurialblonde http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8816&Focus=259397#Comment_259397 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8816&Focus=259397#Comment_259397 Tue, 07 Sep 2010 07:36:34 -0700 glukkake http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8816&Focus=259512#Comment_259512 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8816&Focus=259512#Comment_259512 Tue, 07 Sep 2010 20:40:27 -0700 Rachæl Tyrell http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8816&Focus=259526#Comment_259526 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8816&Focus=259526#Comment_259526 Tue, 07 Sep 2010 23:13:43 -0700 Yskaya yeah I'm looking at you facebook.

But why would you? ;) ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8816&Focus=259546#Comment_259546 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8816&Focus=259546#Comment_259546 Wed, 08 Sep 2010 03:04:16 -0700 Vaehling are more practical, aren't they? ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8816&Focus=259566#Comment_259566 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8816&Focus=259566#Comment_259566 Wed, 08 Sep 2010 06:06:16 -0700 Jason A. Quest Tumblr .... hosted for me (that's a pro, right?) That's a matter of personal preference. It's a closed-source hosted-only system, which reduces your ability to bend it to your will. It's customizable and extendable, but only as much as the owners choose to make it. Fine for lots of people. Not for others. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8816&Focus=259803#Comment_259803 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8816&Focus=259803#Comment_259803 Thu, 09 Sep 2010 13:54:00 -0700 HEY APATHY! http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8816&Focus=259826#Comment_259826 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8816&Focus=259826#Comment_259826 Thu, 09 Sep 2010 16:13:21 -0700 Cameron C. http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8816&Focus=259860#Comment_259860 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8816&Focus=259860#Comment_259860 Fri, 10 Sep 2010 00:06:16 -0700 NeilFord
I'd pobably use Categories for displaying my content in a heirarchical structure - almost like a' table of contents'. These kind of strctures are logical ways of grouping content, but they need to be quite broad to remain useful. If there are too many sub levels, they can be confusing for the visitor, as it's more difficult to build a mental map of your information.

Tagging is a more like indexing IMHO, and provides another way for the visitor to think about your content. Tagging is category neutral and they can make sense when displayed in a heirarchical, linear or non-linear way (...think Glossary/Taxonomy, A-Z and Tag cloud respectively), so are quite versatile.

Tags can be useful for seeing where your writing is going too, if you have a load of posts/articles with the DOG FOOD tag, well it might be time to consider elevating that topic to become a new category?

(Edited for brain farting...) ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8816&Focus=259987#Comment_259987 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8816&Focus=259987#Comment_259987 Fri, 10 Sep 2010 11:32:18 -0700 Yskaya Is there a reason I should have an external blog on Word Press or Tumbir?
Depends on the public you want to reach.
Most illustrators in the netherlands love blogger as a platform and are hesitant to use more difficult (seemingly to them) wordpress or tumblr (But I already have a blog?) It's easier to use google connect/follow instead of the 3 extra clicks to subscribe to rss-feeds. lazy bums. ;)

So thats why I'm on blogger as well as tumblr, wordpress, livejournal, facebook. Friends & customers all prefer different networks/platforms.
A Posterous account (found via our fearless leader, Warren ;) helps update all those blogs at once. :)

You decide if operating different networks/platforms is worth the effort for the feedback. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8816&Focus=259989#Comment_259989 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8816&Focus=259989#Comment_259989 Fri, 10 Sep 2010 11:51:13 -0700 Crackstar
"...Matt Mullenweg, better known as the founding developer of WordPress, wearing a Tumblr t-shirt."
(via thedailywhat)

Probably should have posted this is Around the net but it seemed to fit real well in this thread... I had a giggle myself. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8816&Focus=260797#Comment_260797 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8816&Focus=260797#Comment_260797 Thu, 16 Sep 2010 15:44:28 -0700 hank Basically I format an email and then it kicks out to http://kuhfeldt.tumblr.com/ and http://henry.kuhfeldt.net I need to probably buy a second flickr account and use it just for those sites, as my LRP crap and oddities don't need to be on either. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8816&Focus=261002#Comment_261002 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8816&Focus=261002#Comment_261002 Fri, 17 Sep 2010 20:15:50 -0700 costa_k
I've been using it a bit to host some comics too. The one thing I always hated about it that I'm glad they got rid of was Tumbularity. ]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8816&Focus=261066#Comment_261066 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=8816&Focus=261066#Comment_261066 Sat, 18 Sep 2010 15:55:50 -0700 hugopaceli