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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Oct 2010 20:17:33 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>looneynerd</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Lots of movies making me excited for the upcoming month: Red, The Social Network, and Let Me In are all sure must-sees for me. <br /><br />Anybody seen anything recently they like? Anything you're looking forward to seeing? Discuss! ]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Oct 2010 13:33:46 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>government spy</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Let Me In looks so Americanized and dumbed down compared to the original..  This is also one of the first in a new trend of "remake a foreign film in barely a couple years since it was released."  I just watched a preview where the little boy says "Are you a vampire?" and the girl responds, "I need blood to live" and it felt like they were straight up reading lines off of a page with the smallest amount of emotion involved, and it really turned me off. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Oct 2010 15:06:49 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>HEY APATHY!</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Went to see "Insideous" ( it's not) at the Toronto film festival last month. I didn't know it was made by the people who did SAW before I went or I wouldn't have gone. It wasn't a bloodbath though but rather a feeble derivitave mockery of a weird tale that copied every horror movie you've ever seen but wasn't scary. If you take a picture of yourself and there is no creepy ghost standing behind you, you have nothing to fear according to this film. 100% Crap hope I saved some of you the time and money. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Oct 2010 15:25:43 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>mybrainhurts</author>
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			<![CDATA[ @government spy: That's not a new trend. That's always been going on. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Oct 2010 15:48:22 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>government spy</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Yeah, you're probably right.  Now that you mention it, I can think of many examples, none of which involved a decent remake. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Oct 2010 18:26:46 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>jonah</author>
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			<![CDATA[ <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1462758/" > Buried </a> I'm really looking forward to this. It has a high potential for terribleness, but at least it's taking risks. I heard it's all in the box, but the budget is 3 million?  I'm trying to stay ignorant about it any more plot details. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Oct 2010 18:33:52 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>JECole</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I am greatly looking forward to seeing Black Swan and Collapse at the British Film Festival and the ICA this month. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Oct 2010 23:33:56 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Dovryn</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Red is a given. Monsters looks wild, and Due Date... I am a sucker for comedy. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Oct 2010 01:37:30 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>ian holloway</author>
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			<![CDATA[ i've been on a movie marathon this last month or so.<br />i will pretty much watch any movie that's put in front of me.<br />this week i've subjected myself to..<br /><br /><strong >Machete</strong> - not as good as the grindhouse trailer and runs out of steam 2 thirds of the way through.<br /><br /><strong >Predators</strong> - sci-fi by numbers that probably won't kill the franchise but will scrape a little more dirt into it's grave.<br /><strong ><br />Batman / Superman: Apocalyps</strong>e - i'm a real sucker for animation but these DC efforts are woefully ugly.<br /><br />i do have <strong >Four Lions</strong> to watch but i've been keeping that as a special treat once i've finished writing the new issue of WWR. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Oct 2010 02:17:26 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>HEY APATHY!</author>
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			<![CDATA[ @ governmentspy and mybrainhurts- to hell with americinizations and to hell with american films, they are all hokey, propaganda-stuffed  and would be better used as stuffing hollyweird's you know what.<br /><br /> @ian holloway bit of a junkie myself, all the old HAMMER films are watchable on youtube, done like three a day this past week and i can  watch those filmsover and over and over again. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Oct 2010 02:35:00 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Paprika</author>
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			<![CDATA[ <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monsters_%282010_film%29" >Monsters</a> looks particularly good ]]>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Oct 2010 03:33:06 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>ian holloway</author>
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			<![CDATA[ @ Hey Apathy!<br />the Hammer's are always worth watching.  my particular faves are Twins of Evil and the Quatermass trilogy although i pretty much love the lot of em! ]]>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Oct 2010 03:49:50 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Jeff Owens</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I just saw <a href="http://www.hatchet2.com/" >Hatchet 2</a> and, though I far preferred the first one, this still gave me the classic blood and gore I was hoping for. Hadn't heard of Monster until checking this thread. Sounds like it may be interesting. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Oct 2010 07:30:06 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>256</author>
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			<![CDATA[ <a href="http://www.imdb.com/calendar/?region=gb" >This page</a> of upcoming UK releases may be of interest, for people looking for something to watch. Or perhaps not.<br /><br />On the subject of American remakes, I think that <strong >Infernal Affairs</strong> (HK) & <strong >The Departed</strong> (USA) make a good pair. Each one is superior to the other in different places, and both are interesting in their own right. Also, honestly, if I hadn't seen The Departed first I would never have worked out exactly what was going on in Infernal Affairs (this still took a couple of viewings) and ended up liking that so much. <br /><br />I struggle to think of any other examples, though. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Oct 2010 10:26:23 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>HEY APATHY!</author>
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			<![CDATA[ @ ian holloway- loved Twins of Evil, Quatermass in a given and also The Devil Rides Out is really amazing (with some great satanic illustrations during the credits).<br /><br />@256 - think really, really hard about the subject, meditate, study if you must, but I bet you spontaneously combust before you find another decent american remake. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Oct 2010 11:39:53 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>James Puckett</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I’ll go see <em >Red</em> and <em >Black Swan</em>. And maybe download <em >The Human Sexipede</em> for laughs. And that documentary about Troll 2 comes to video this month, so I’ll check that out. But right now my real cinema fix is on TV—Boardwalk Empire is really good! ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Oct 2010 11:03:45 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Miranda's Eyes</author>
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			<![CDATA[ @ian holloway  I caught FOUR LIONS at Sundance and liked it, but I can see why some viewers may be put off by it.  Try showing a film about "the funny side of suicide bombers" in your local theatre.<br /><br />Recently seen:<br /><br />SPACE, LAND & TIME: UNDERGROUND ADVENTURES WITH ANT FARM--A documentary portrait of a 1970s art/architecture group called Ant Farm, which used the medium of architecture to create musings on people and their relations to space, land, and time.  Texas-based Whitechapelers who are familiar with Cadillac Ranch will have seen one of the group's more enduring works.  It's also mindblowing to see that some of their ideas got included in the temporary community aspect of Burning Man.<br /><br />FIRE OF CONSCIENCE--HK cop drama/actioner about morally grey cops, ruthless arms dealers, and how three apparently unrelated incidents tie together.  If you want a simple conspiracy film that goes from A to B, this ain't it.  Everything does get explained in the end, but director Dante Lam puts the viewer through some twists trying to figure out how it all fits together.<br /><br />MOLOCH TROPICAL--Director Raoul Peck tells of a fictional Haitian president who has left his former idealism behind to embrace political corruption and repression.  The story is the political version of a multi-car collision, as the president doesn't realize he's in a no win situation.  Lots of ironies abound, such as having the head of the terror paramilitary group be named Mother Teresa.  But Peck also manages to put an unexpected spin on "Don't It Make My Brown Eyes Blue." ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Oct 2010 13:16:47 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>longtimelurker</author>
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			<![CDATA[ The slow economy is finally catching up to Hollywood.   I don't care how much money was spent on THE SOCIAL NETWORK, the fact is it COULD have been made for less than an average episode of THE WEST WING.   Expect more shoestring productions like MONSTERS in the coming years.<br /><br />This past summer saw the death of a TON of established actors' careers.   I mean, it was just a bloodbath.   Cruise and Diaz, Kutcher and Heigl, Neeson and Cooper, Aniston and Bateman, Nic Cage, Megan Fox, Michael Cera, and many others will never recover.   The era of the "movie star", when all you needed was an established name in the lead to guarantee box office success, is over (if it even ever existed).<br /><br />The showdown between RED and JACKASS 3-D is incredibly interesting to me.   The JACKASS guys are masters at what they do, but are they still innovative?   Backyard stuntmen on YouTube is par for the course these days.   You would think each of the JACKASS guys would have exploited their fame into developing their own big screen projects instead of just submitting one new stunt per sequel every four years.   3-D is no longer a guarantee of higher ticket revenue either; the public is onto that scam.<br /><br />And in this corner... Willis and his team are going to remind everybody that, yes, acting does still matter, as well as good writing and good source material.   Will it be a new franchise?   Will it reverse the death of the movie star?   It could very well do those things.   Lorenzo's movies tend to make money.   Whether it will play to young people who came to the theatre to see JACKASS will be the critical factor.   Young people equals moolah. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Oct 2010 05:33:05 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Jack_Crow</author>
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			<![CDATA[ someone here is really exaggerating over careers deaths....the most blatant would be the nicholas cage one, seeing how much work does he have had, and stil has, i think he will stil acting long time after our bones will be white washed... ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Oct 2010 09:03:27 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Ben Gwalchmai</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Off to see <strong >Made in Dagenham</strong> very soon indeed - I'm quite excited. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Oct 2010 09:37:52 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>ian holloway</author>
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			<![CDATA[ yeah - gotta agree with Jack_Crow.<br />Cage's career has survived more low points than anyone else and his Big Daddy in Kick Ass certainly wasn't one of them.<br /><br />Cera's career will absolutely survive especially as i think Scott Pilgrim will probably be more of a hit on dvd than cinema.<br /><br />Watched Jonah Hex last night.  Pretty much got exactly what i expected.  A shame really as i thought Brolin was pretty personable as Hex but the rest of the film was a mess - what the hell was that dream fight sequence all about. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Oct 2010 11:13:33 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Miranda's Eyes</author>
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			<![CDATA[ It's film festival season in my part of Whitechapel (if Whitechapel were as big as the world).  <br /><br />The HK comedy/action film KUNG FU CHEFS I've already seen.  It takes its common plot elements (disgraced chef, evil nephew, lots of kung fu asskicking) and works mainly because they play down the comic mugging that often made HK comedies fail for me.  And it's nice to see Sammo Hung can still kick butt.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mR2VkVaDSKY" >Kung Fu Chefs Trailer</a><br /><br />But the film I'm looking forward to is this documentary on late comedian Bill Hicks:<br /><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaUvt81gH9c" >American:  The Bill Hicks Story Trailer</a><br /><br />I'm admittedly one of those sad people who never saw Bill Hicks perform or heard his comedy albums, so it's one of those making up for lost time moments. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Oct 2010 22:14:04 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>celan</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Have to say that I did not think Monsters was very good. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2010 07:15:08 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Jehrot</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I really enjoyed the Bill Hicks doc. I must have heard each of his sketches several hundred times (never saw him live, though) and it still seemed fresh and exhilarating. There's a lot of time devoted to his early formative years including interviews with his family that showed a side of him that most people would have no idea about. I was in tears by the end.<br />Just watched <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1314655/" >Devil</a>, which was mildly entertaining but very predictable and contained little to no pay-off. Ah well.<br />I've just moved to sunny Qatar for work, and there seems to be an international film festival later in the month. Hopefully that'll yield some hidden gems.<br />Really really really want to see <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1403865/" >True Grit</a>, though. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2010 08:13:14 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Oddcult</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I'm actually looking forward to Lost Boys 3. <br /><br />Yes. Seriously. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2010 08:42:19 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>ian holloway</author>
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			<![CDATA[ i don't want to watch the hicks film<br />i don't think i could handle the end. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Oct 2010 08:59:20 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Ben Gwalchmai</author>
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			<![CDATA[ @Jehrot - Thanks for the <strong >True Grit</strong> tip! I, also, really want to see it now I've seen the trailer.<br /><br />Also, <strong >Devil </strong>was just awful: I was scared twice by 2 big bangs [of sound, not the earrings] and I'd guessed the end by 15 minutes in - only to find that the film went on and on and on and felt like a man named Basil Exposition continuously telling me how things were going to happen and then going '...but will they?' Only to find that at ever other freaking turn...oh wait...what's that? YES. They do happen - it's blindingly obvious all the way through and I could honestly punch M. Night Shyamalan for laying his fingers on a keyboard for this. I wanted scary. I got boring.<br /><br />On the upside, <strong >Made in Dagenham</strong> was brilliant. I recommend it for any feminist, any fun-lovin' film goer and any 14 year old girl [even if it does contain the word 'fuck' in a flippant context about 50 times, I'm taking my nieces to see it and they're 14 and 12...I'm that good an uncle.] ]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Oct 2010 21:18:43 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>StefanJ</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Went to see a Bollywood SF film today, "Enthian," AKA "The Robot." It was being shown in a distant suburb of Portland, in a multiplex. It was apparently a special event; my matinee ticket cost $15.00 rather than the usual $6.00. There was a large contingent of Indian folks, from toddlers to grannies. When certain names appeared in the credits, and certain characters appeared, the young folks made ear-splitting whistles.<br /><br /> It was . . . OK. The plot could have come from a 1970s B-movie or TV-movie: Scientist makes robot, robot strives to become more human, robot subverted by villainous arms merchant. Like most Bollywood movies, it was really long, with lavish song-and-dance numbers.<br /><br />It was well produced, though, and with some moments of over the top freak. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Oct 2010 23:24:52 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>johnjones</author>
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			<![CDATA[ I saw two movies today, <em >My Soul to Take</em> and <em >Let Me In</em>.<br /><br /><em >My Soul to Take</em> answers the question, "Does legendary filmmaker, Wes Craves have any more tricks up his sleeve?"  And that answer is "No.  No, he does not."  No cliche is left undisturbed as viewers of the film's trailer can easily ascertain.  The plot (which can also be easily ascertained from the trailer) has a vicious serial killer, the Riverton Ripper, apparently dying (though no body is found) sixteen years prior to the sixteenth "Ripper Day" (a holiday which would only occur in a movie).  In a party/ritual the seven kids born that fateful night, specifically The Bullying Jock, The Pretty Snob, The Asian Kid, The Blind Black Kid, The Jesus Freak, The Creepy Nerd and The Oblivious Hero (Yes, they names, but honestly, they may as well have their character label in glowing neon above them) fail to successfully perform the tradition/ritual which "keeps the Ripper" away, and soon begin to get offed.  There's also a bizarre subplot involving a group of fashionista girls running what appears to be mafia-like protection racket.  Which, frankly, would've been far more interesting to explore in greater depth.  <br /><br /><em >Let Me In</em> overall, was a far more realistic movie in many ways.  Sure, there's a vampire and her (father/servant) running around (in bare feet, in the midst of a 1983 New Mexico winter) killing people in gruesome, bloody ways, but it was the focus on the relationships that I liked best.  For all the grief that high school gets, the middle school years (10 - 14) can also be an unbelievably shitty time in a young person's life.  Owen, a lonely, horribly bullied 12 year old boy, is smack in the middle of that special hell when Abby, also (apparently) 12, moves in next door.   The two begin a friendship (and something a little more than friendship) in the midst of her needing to feed on the lifeblood of others.  To its credit, the movie doesn't try to soften Abby by having her happen to only prey on those that "deserve it."  The most interesting thing about Abby is that she tries to be the best... "person" that her vicious, animalistic hunger allows her to be.  One thing I did like about this movie is that it spent at least a little time exploring the situation of Abby's "father" and how he came to be who he was. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2010 20:57:37 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>MartinSheen</author>
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			<![CDATA[ 'The Town' comes out in Australia this week.  Who would have thought Ben Affleck was such an amazing director?  If this movie is half as well done as 'Gone Baby Gone' then I am in for a treat. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2010 05:27:16 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Oddcult</author>
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			<![CDATA[ @johnjones<br /><br />Spoiler questions about Let Me In below:<br /><br /><div id="hide" >Is the issue of the vampire 'girl's' gender addressed? In the original she's not exactly a girl.<br /><br />Also, does it have the 'happy ending' that the writer wanted to add on in a subsequent epilogue, as he didn't want it to be ambiguous as to whether the boy's fate would be the same as that of the old man, falling into a 'Renfield' type role, and rather that they were partners who were happy together, rather than him turning into an exploited servant?<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /></div> ]]>
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		<title>October Film Thread</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2010 08:04:50 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>johnjones</author>
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			<![CDATA[ @ oddcult<br /><br /><div id="hide" >It's actually ambiguous, but if anything it leads you to believe that Owen's fate will eventually be the same as the Father's.  In an earlier scene, Owen is in Abby's apartment and he finds an old picture of Abby with what appears to be a child version of the Father.  That said, the Father didn't seem like a "Renfield" or servant in this movie.  He seemed to instead be someone who loved Abby with all his heart and was doing the terrible work needed to keep her fed because of that love.  <em >That</em> said, years (decades?) of murdering innocent people for their blood tends to wear on the soul somewhat.<br /><br />My view is that as long as it was done within a year or so (before puberty hits Chloe Moertz), they could easily do a sequel to "Let In" with the story moving to modern times with Abby moving on to another kid once a now 40-year old Owen begins to get tired, sloppy and soulsick of all the killing.</div> ]]>
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		<title>October Film Thread</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2010 08:44:58 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Oddcult</author>
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			<![CDATA[ <div id="hide" >Okay. Thanks. In the original, the 'father' character is a pedophile that 'Eli' has 'recruited'. The author has said that he's unhappy that many people found the ending ambiguous and is writing an epilogue that clarifies that it's a 'happy ending'. This is going to be published imminently, but I'm not sure how long it'll be before a translated version comes out. It's supposed to be only ten pages long, but just clears up all of the unanswered questions definitively. From what the writer's said in interviews, it does seem that things will be different. I think the title of the epilogue story is 'Let the old ways die', which may be some indication that its' the case. <br /><br />Have they skipped the gender issue completely in this version too, then? Is 'Abby' definitely a girl? Do you see any of hir history?</div> ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2010 09:02:18 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Mono</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Stopped by to tell you all to watch <strong >How I Ended This Summer</strong>.  For me, easily the best film I've seen in a long time.<br /><br />It's a Russian film about two very different persons at a recluse meteorology station, and then it all goes bad. One of those films that make you feel like crying but you can't 'cos you're already laughing so hard. Excellently written, great actors. Beautiful, too. <br /><br /> Also, there is a remake of "Let Me in" out already? Whoa, that was fast. I don't want to sound like an arrogant European bastard, but I have generally found Hollywood remakes of European films way beyond the originals. Wonder if it's the same with this one. ]]>
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		<title>October Film Thread</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2010 11:16:55 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Miranda's Eyes</author>
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			<![CDATA[ My German is non-existent.  But I'm pretty sure "Die Fremde" does not literally translate into English as <strong >When We Leave</strong>.  Whatever the title of the film (personally the English title is strong once you understand its meaning), this German contemporary drama is one of those films which breaks your heart into pieces, sweeps the shards into neat piles, and then breaks it again.  <br /><br />It's the story of Umay, a Turkish woman who flees with her son Cem from her physically abusive husband.  She figures she can find safe haven with her family as she rebuilds her life.  But her conservative family is far less than supportive as they generally share the community's attitude that a woman who doesn't just suck up her husband's physical abuse is little more than a whore and/or a slut.  Umay's determination to find independence of that attitude yet retain ties to her family causes great problems for all concerned.<br /><br />The story's told in a fairly realistic style that makes the family meltdown feel that more wrenching.  Sybil Kekilli, who previously appeared in "Head On," gives both a dignified and emotionally wrenching performance as Umay.  What shocked me was just how far Umay's family went to treat her as a non-person despite her best efforts at reconciliation.<br /><br />I'm also looking at <strong >Everyday Sunshine</strong>, a portrait of the rock-ska-jazz-whatever band Fishbone.  It's the story of how they formed, their music career (would you believe Columbia Records figured at one point Fishbone would appeal to Lionel Richie's demographic), and the band's meltdown and rebirth.  Admirers ranging from Eugene Hutz of Gogol Bordello to Gwen Stefani of No Doubt praise the group.  And just to give you a sample of Fishbone:<br /><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Cx4Wq_pgt8" >When Problems Arise</a> ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2010 14:04:24 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Paprika</author>
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			<![CDATA[ <a href="http://www.overyourcities.com/" >Over Your Cities Grass Will Grow</a> about the work of Anselm Kiefer. This looks particularly good. Im going to see it next week. very looking forward, very. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Oct 2010 14:24:08 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>justinpickard</author>
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			<![CDATA[ <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDZr2zeQIOU" ></a><br /><br />Really, <em >really strange, but also quite moving. Plus, Jason Isaacs!</em> ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2010 06:41:36 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Ben Gwalchmai</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Hello to Jason Isaacs. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2010 07:54:26 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>mister hex</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Any idea when/if FOUR LIONS will be getting a North American release date? I REALLY want to see it. ]]>
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		<title>October Film Thread</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2010 08:42:07 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>johnjones</author>
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			<![CDATA[ @ Oddcult<br /><br /><div id="hide" ><blockquote ><div id="hide" ><br />Okay. Thanks. In the original, the 'father' character is a pedophile that 'Eli' has 'recruited'. The author has said that he's unhappy that many people found the ending ambiguous and is writing an epilogue that clarifies that it's a 'happy ending'. This is going to be published imminently, but I'm not sure how long it'll be before a translated version comes out. It's supposed to be only ten pages long, but just clears up all of the unanswered questions definitively. From what the writer's said in interviews, it does seem that things will be different. I think the title of the epilogue story is 'Let the old ways die', which may be some indication that its' the case.<br /><br />Have they skipped the gender issue completely in this version too, then? Is 'Abby' definitely a girl? Do you see any of hir history?</div><br /></blockquote><br /><br />Like I said, the movie pretty much goes with the author's "happy ending" however, with the "Father" it shows the ultimate sadness of that ending.  Like the Father, Owen will age and die, probably violently.  The only way for Owen and Abby to stay together would be as relative equals.  Either she'd be cured of vampirism, or he's become a vampire like her.<br /><br />As for the gender question, there's no real ambiguity about it.  Chloe Moertz dresses and acts like a girl.  There's even a point where Abby gets into a bed naked with Owen (at which point he asks her to "go steady" with him).  Since Owen did not suddenly ask her why she has a penis, I'm going with the idea that Abby's a girl.  There is dialogue in the film where Abby denies being a girl at one point, but it seems clear that that is more a reflection of her awareness at being an unnatural creature that kills people for their blood and outlives those for whom she cares.<br /><br />As for her history, there's nothing explicit said.  Abby does own a pretty large collection of antique puzzles and games that look well-used.  There's also a photo of her with the happy, smiling boy-version of the Father that seems to have been taken in the 1930s or 1940s (possibly 1950s as well, since Richard Jenkins was born in 1947).  The implication seems to be that Abby has been a vampire for a long time, decades if not centuries.</div> ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:38:27 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Oddcult</author>
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			<![CDATA[ <div id="hide" ><blockquote >why she has a penis, </blockquote><br /><br />Spoiler for the original:<br /><br />'She' is a boy castrated before puberty.</div> ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2010 10:12:53 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>johnjones</author>
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			<![CDATA[ @ Oddcult<br /><br /><div id="hide" >All I can say is they didn't go that route in this movie.  Really, you should just watch it for yourself.  It's a good film that stands on its own merits even if it is a re-make.</div><br /><br />One thing I will say to everybody about <em >Let Me In</em> is that it works much better if you approach like it's a comedy, a pitch black comedy, but still a comedy. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Oct 2010 13:33:55 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>tedcroland</author>
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			<![CDATA[ @Miranda's Eyes<br /><br />Are you talking about the Mill Valley festival? A couple friends of mine are working the festival this year. I think I'm going to <em >William Vincent</em> on Friday. <br /><br />Up here in Sonoma County we (actually meaning me and my friends, not the county proper) do film stuff pretty regular. Our film teacher puts on yearly festivals and screens films on the SRJC campus every week.<br /><br />Shoot me an email if you want some info. That really goes for anyone in the area who's interested in film events. We have a showing of a really great German film called <em >Kammerflimmern</em> coming up on November 3rd with the director in conversation. The film never came out in the US save the festival circuit, so this is probably the first public screening on this continent since 2005.<br /><br />tedcroland at gmail dot com ]]>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Oct 2010 14:18:47 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Miranda's Eyes</author>
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			<![CDATA[ @tedcroland  I am indeed talking about the Mill Valley festival.  I was lucky enough to preview several films from the festival.  Naomi Watts and Sean Penn as Valerie Plame Wilson and Joe Wilson in <em >Fair Game</em> is also worth a look, as is the Italian film <em >Cosmonauta</em>.  Young Communists and the early days of the Russian space program--you've got to love that.<br /><br />Thanks for your offer about checking out Sonoma County film events.  My trouble is I'm limited to public transportation from San Francisco, so going up to Sonoma County is very much a day trip thing. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Oct 2010 16:21:15 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>tedcroland</author>
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			<![CDATA[ @Miranda's Eyes Yeah, and getting around up here is even worse. To get to campus from the 80 or 101 would probably take around an hour just to go across town!<br /><br />We're seeing <em >Heartbeats</em> on Sunday, and I don't know what else we're getting to! A friend is working the festival which is keeping him from going to any of the films, so he's gonna try and get some screeners from his boss, so we may see more stuff that way.<br /><br />If you meet Armando or Ethan at the box office say 'hi' for me and blow their minds with roundabout acquaintance insanity. :P ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Oct 2010 08:50:45 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Ben Gwalchmai</author>
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			<![CDATA[ So I saw The Social Network this weekend and was thoroughly entertained but it occurred to me that there's much more there than simply entertainment and information. I'm thinking cultural theory as form - check out my thoughts:, here <a href="http://bengwalchmai.wordpress.com/" >http://bengwalchmai.wordpress.com/</a> ]]>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Oct 2010 12:46:15 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>Miranda's Eyes</author>
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			<![CDATA[ So I finally took a look at "American--The Bill Hicks Story" and was utterly blown away by it.  Not only did I get enough samples of Hicks' humor to make me want to check out the videos of his performances, but I kept on rooting for him to get the audiences he clearly deserved.  *Sigh*  I hate Europeans and Canadians for being farther ahead on the Hicks appreciation curve than Americans.<br /><br />Favorite moments from the film include Hicks lighting a cigarette from a burning American flag, the animated magic mushroom sequence (dammit, why didn't the guys doing the recent Grant Morrison documentary think of having something similar), and Hicks' anecdote of the waffle shop waitress who asked him, "What are you readin' for?"  If the film ever comes out on DVD, it'll be a part of my collection. ]]>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Oct 2010 13:36:54 -0700</pubDate>
		<author>government spy</author>
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			<![CDATA[ Americans have appreciated Hicks' material for years.  They just didn't know that most of the smart or funny things coming out of Dennis Leary's mouth were stolen verbatim from Bill. ]]>
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