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  1.  (9129.61)
    If Terriers doesn't get picked up, it'll be a tragedy. It grabbed me in places Justified couldn't even touch.
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      CommentAuthorcity creed
    • CommentTimeNov 26th 2010
     (9129.62)
    Just watched ep 3 of season 2 Misfits.

    Awe.

    In every possible possible way.

    So glad they got to make a 2nd series, despite my earlier misgivings. Just gets better and better.
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      CommentAuthorcelan
    • CommentTimeNov 26th 2010
     (9129.63)
    @citruscreed
    That show manages to be great and completely ridiculous at the same time. Love it.
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      CommentAuthorcity creed
    • CommentTimeNov 26th 2010
     (9129.64)
    @celan - yep, that's pretty much it :D

    In a lot of other shows the gear changes would be jarring, but in Misfits they're exhilarating.
    That latest ep manages to hit so many different notes it's near epic. The writing and performances are SO good.
    The combination of hilariously fantastic storylines with utterly believable, almost mundane, superheroes firing delicious barbed dialogue at each other is pure win.
    Hmmm, almost sorta reminds me a little of something else when I put it like that...
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      CommentAuthorD.J.
    • CommentTimeNov 27th 2010
     (9129.65)
    A bit of friendly advice citrus, you really discredit yourself when you describe something as 'near epic' and 'pure win'. That being said, the show seems like it's free of consequence with that one dude protecting them and knowing everything that's going to happen, and it really needs to establish just what kind of time-travel logic it goes by. The plot hasn't been as strong as season one either, but really the only thing that would make me stop watching is if Nathan leaves the show, so we'll see.

    Other than that, I've really got to advocate for Terriers again, because it is clinging on for dear life and I will set something aflame if it gets cancelled.
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      CommentAuthorcity creed
    • CommentTimeNov 27th 2010
     (9129.66)
    ouch, sorry DJ
    In my defence, I had only just watched it and I guess I was a little tongue-tied with enthusiasm still. With frothing incoherence, even.
    If you reckon that really discredits me... I guess I'll wear that. I am excitable, especially when I like things. Passion occludes my sense for the forensic approach, if you catch my drift. You're quite right though, it reveals a lamentable paucity of lexical resource.

    About the show: you're right again, there's unresolved plot difficulties you could ride a moon around in, but um, it's television?
    I just think it has all the marks of a story made with a lot of energy and craft and love and that impresses me so much that I'll give it the benefit of the doubt on just what kind of time-travel logic it goes by. But then:
    I wanted Nathan to stay in the coffin. He had earned that coffin. He deserved it. There was rare justice in that box for a gobby, obnoxious bastard and it was profoundly satisfying for the story to end there.

    So, y'know, I'm probably not the best person to ask.
  7.  (9129.67)
    Terriers is great, yes, but I feel like they've pulled something of a bait-and-switch. It started quite light, frothy and humour-laden, and just keeps diving deeper into the valleys and caverns of horrific grimdrama. I know the whole "kill your darlings" schtick but, really, it's killing me. Still watching religiously, though, even if it's from behind a cushion.
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      CommentAuthorD.J.
    • CommentTimeNov 27th 2010
     (9129.68)
    @citruscreed - I was more saying that it discredits what you're saying when it's laden with internet slang, and it's one of those things for which I have a special kind of hate down in my deep, dark bits. I'm not really ripping at the show either, as I do enjoy it on the merits you've pointed out and can respect what they're going for and accomplishing, though at the same time I agree about Nathan but don't think the show would work without him. There just hasn't really been anything so far that makes me feel like it was justified to revive the show from a coffin that was so toned and polished to the point of near perfection.

    @justinpickard - I think that's actually one of Terriers' strong points, that it's managed to build up the viewer's expectations and love for the characters and then blow them down with a live grenade. It still has all the fun and charm it's had, it's just sending it in a different direction for awhile.
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      CommentAuthortaphead
    • CommentTimeNov 27th 2010
     (9129.69)
    I am SO far behind the rest of you TV fiends, but:

    RUBICON. 7 episodes in, and loving it for its wonderful slowness. These are not your ops agents, no. Nice character work, too, and Miranda Richardson is always a joy. A shame it got cancelled, but not surprising. I mean, this is an espionage show where a gun is drawn for the first time in ep. #6 (I think?) and even then a phonecam is more efficient.

    BREAKING BAD. Just got to the end of season 2, and I dig it. Again nice and complex on the character level, but I'm afraid it may suffer from the sort of escalation that made me drop Oz way back when.

    THE WALKING DEAD. Oh yes. Oh yes. And a metric fuckton of money for mr. Kirkman, I hope.

    Hmm. Looks like an AMC trip going on.
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      CommentAuthorCat Vincent
    • CommentTimeNov 28th 2010 edited
     (9129.70)
    And for those still watching, Caprica's last episode airs on Canadian cable on Tuesday night - and torrents will no doubt swiftly appear.

    I've seen up to the penultimate ep, and though it's still smart and well-observed in so many ways, the strain is showing. Some of the SFX are looking weak and the various plotlines are dovetailing together in rather forced ways. And I find it oddly remote - though I'm still interested, there's always been a degree of emotional disconnect with the characters. (Though I do hope Alessandra Torresani and Sasha Roiz go on to have huge careers after their time on the show - their work remains the most intriguing performances by far.)
    Nonetheless, it was a grand experiment in TV SF and it'll be a shame to see it go - especially since Sigh-Fie Channel are proposing to replace it with a Young Bill Adama Fights Cylons show called (Valen help me) Blood And Chrome.

    Rewatching Fringe from the start to fill in time waiting for the next ep (bloody stupid hiatuses!): interesting to see how this show has developed into the powerhouse it is now. A few plot lines are left hanging oddly (remember god-bothering FBI Agent Jessup from the start of S2? The writer's don't seem to) but it's still putting out some of the best SF storytelling prime time US TV has ever shown. Hell, if they add another parallel universe, they might even get close to the complex glory of Charlie Jade...
  11.  (9129.71)
    I understand what people are saying about Walking Dead initially appearing as though it is something you've already seen before. I mean the start is taken straight from 28 days later, how hard could it be to come up with a different opening?

    However...

    My initial impressoin was wrong. The show is definately one worth checking out:)
  12.  (9129.72)
    The way I looked at it was, the guy watches 28 days later, and says, "What a great idea for an opening to a zombie story!" and writes it into his COMIC BOOK (with a definite nod to the film). Years later, TV Executives ask him if he'd take a bunch of money for them to make a show out of it, and he's like "Hell, yes, thank you!" and here we are.

    Thankfully, the show is much more than a re-hash of 28 days later, or every other zombie movie ever made. It definitely has its ties to older works, but I think it stands on its own quite well, and more importantly, draws non-comic fans in.

    The sad part is, all they can say is that it's a rip-off of 28 Days Later, and the hard part is getting them to stick with it to see how different it is.

    (@Martin- not a critique of YOUR opinion, obviously, you stuck with it, but I've had several co-workers deride it for that reason, and it's annoying, also equally annoying is sounding like a fanboy to them)

    (Apologies if any of that sounded rant-ish, I'm sleep deprived)
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      CommentAuthorhowyadoin
    • CommentTimeNov 30th 2010
     (9129.73)
    For what it's worth, Kirkman said he didn't see the movie till the book was at the printer's, or words to that effect.
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      CommentAuthorFinagle
    • CommentTimeNov 30th 2010
     (9129.74)
    Eh - Rip van Winkle, Buck Rogers, Captain America...all variations on Man Wakes Up To Find World He Does Not Understand and Never Made. Personally I've never been hung up on the use of tropes if the execution is good, which it is in the case of TWD.
    • CommentAuthorOddcult
    • CommentTimeNov 30th 2010
     (9129.75)
    I mean the start is taken straight from 28 days later,


    and

    Rip van Winkle, Buck Rogers, Captain America...all variations on Man Wakes Up To Find World He Does Not Understand and Never Made.


    Nah. 'Day of the Triffids' is where the 'world changes whilst guy is in hospital, protecting him from it all' opening is from, as an influence on modern genre fiction.
    • CommentAuthorSteadyUP
    • CommentTimeNov 30th 2010
     (9129.76)
    For what it's worth, Kirkman said he didn't see the movie till the book was at the printer's, or words to that effect.
    I don't remember any statements about 28 Days Later specifically, but he's always saying that he goes out of his way to not see or read any other contemporary zombie stuff that might influence the series.
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      CommentAuthorcosta_k
    • CommentTimeNov 30th 2010
     (9129.77)
    Now that LUTHER is over, IT'S ALWAYS SUNNY is sucking, and DEXTER is almost over, I'm floundering for what to watch. I'm super-behind on TERRIERS, though I do try to always see MODERN FAMILY. I don't have HBO, otherwise I'd be all up on BOARDWALK EMPIRE. That GAME OF THRONES series looks like it'll be good too (again, no HBO).

    ARCHER and NURSE JACKIE and JUSTIFIED are coming back soon, which is good, and Showtime does have a lot of interesting-looking stuff coming that's new, like SHAMELESS.

    WALKING DEAD is just...meh. I don't really read the comic. The first episode was pretty good, but it's kind of gone downhill in terms of just degrading into what it really is; A pretty standard post-apocalyptic story that's only made unique because it's got zombies in it. Whatever, I watch it if I'm bored.
    • CommentAuthorlucien
    • CommentTimeNov 30th 2010
     (9129.78)
    i'm not minding this new season of DURHAM COUNTY. also BOARDWALK EMPIRE's been good to me, and i'm liking DEXTER, as usual.
  19.  (9129.79)
    Community is great and hilarious. Best unseen show going to my mind.
    • CommentAuthorAlcorest
    • CommentTimeNov 30th 2010
     (9129.80)
    Seconding Boarwalk and Dexter (I can't believe I'm still watching this ><"). I have pretty low standards for television, going to be completely honest. It's a mindless activity and I try not to expect TOO much from it. I also enjoy Weeds and Breaking Bad. Misfits was my favourite show there for a while...kind of feel like they dropped the ball with season 2 ep 3 uuuuuuuugh I'll keep watching though and see where it goes.

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