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    I have trouble with unreliable narrators, but was amazed at how effective that conceit was used in this film. Perhaps because the unreliable narrator herself wasn't aware of how unreliable she actually was.
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    Loved it, but it didn't skewer me through the soul like The Fountain, which remains Aronofsky's masterwork for me.

    Great to see a film which was so focussed on female characters (not a single daddy-figure in the whole thing, and would easily pass the Bechdel Test for those that care) - though wife-the-artist, who saw it with me, noted the prevalence of the fragile-hughly-strung-female-creativity thing as a cliche. The way duality was handled was mostly excellent - note how Portman's offstage clothes gradually take on grey elements - but perhaps limited how the story could develop. I'm also strongly edging towards Lily being either completely imaginary or mostly a projection of Nina's repressed sexuality onto an otherwise innocuous chorus member.

    And the dancing-transform to Black Swan was the closest I've seen a film get to what magical shapeshifting feels like since Eddie Olmos in The Wolfen... but that's kind of a specialised viewpoint!
      CommentAuthorJay Kay
    • CommentTimeJan 26th 2011
    Like @Cat said, it wasn't as jaw-droppingly amazing as The Fountain, but it was a really solid movie. It's not an entirely new story, sure, but the way it was presented and acted was very, like the director of the production himself says, visceral.

    One thing that I thought of when I was watching it was, "Wow, I remember seeing ballet on-screen before, when they would show The Nutcraker near X-Mas time and being a bit bored by it. What if they showed more ballet like this instead of just long-shots of the entire stage?"
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    I just realized that Black Swan and Showgirls share similar plots. But I can’t decide which has a crazier female lead.
    • CommentTimeJan 29th 2011
    Oh here we i 've got to go and see the film.
    Look what you just did. There's too much stuff to see!

    Also this thread sounds like all the other threads on the net about
    how Inception basically stole most of their ideas from Paprika...

    Inception trail..i mean Paprika trailer-HD

    or The Matrix is basically The Invisibles with Ghost in the Shell stylings including the bit where everyone
    plugs into the matrix/net via the back of the neck
    and the whole sentience thing....

    The matri...i mean Ghost in the Shell Trailer-

    Heri Mkocha
  4.  (9295.26)
    I saw Black Swan and I enjoy all of Aronofsky's films, but I really have no desire to see it again, which I think is a big deal for me. I still enjoy watching Requiem and Pi and etc on a regular basis, but I really don't look forward to ever seeing this again.

    I have a problem with sudden loud noises and maybe that has something to do with it...there were a few of those in Black Swan.

    It just, I don't know. I actually saw it a month or so ago and have been thinking about it--a good sign, to be sure--but I can't place exactly what it is that I don't like about it.
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    Has anyone else seen Suspiria?

    I tried so hard to avoid reading too much about Black Swan but then I saw the amazing Black Swan poster in the Barbican that looks like this:

    And, even before I'd seen Black Swan my inner (fat) Film Critic whispered "Remember Suspiria" and here's one of what came to mind:
    suspect - the brain then shouted "ARGENTO! DARIO ARGENTO!"

    So this obviously lead to me sat throughout Black Swan being not as scared as my 17 and 24 year old selves were at Suspiria even if Black Swan is a better film; unfortunately, chronology and the upgrade of better critical distance means no change of judgement to my inner critic.

    That said, it was an elegant homage to Argento with a fair performance put in by Portman [though I have to be honest, not as nuanced I'd expected] and some excellent set pieces. I think I love anything that Vincent Cassel does so was happy to see him playing.

    I too am a fan of Aronofsky's other work [especially how rich The Fountain was] but found myself internally disagreeing with the comments I heard on the way out of the cinema.

    So, I'm going to see it again tomorrow night - until then it's a 8.5/10 for me.

    @ Cat Vincent - thanks for the Bechdel Test, I'd never come across it before and it's a damn good test.
      CommentAuthorCat Vincent
    • CommentTimeJan 31st 2011 edited
    There's a thread discussing the test, with pros and cons as to validity, somewhere round here.
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    @ Ben.
    Argento's Suspiria is pure cinematic art. A teddy bear burns in hell every time someone suggests remaking it.

    (Oh, and Black Swan was excellent, of course.)