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    http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/12/transcending-the-human-diy-style/

    Surely other transhumanists will learn valuable lessons from performing an autopsy on her scar- and sepsis-riddled corpse.
    • CommentAuthor256
    • CommentTimeJan 2nd 2011
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    I like the idea of some of the goals she's setting out to achieve (particularly the human geomagnetic sense thing - I'd love to know what that felt like, but the vibrating belt/anklet implementations have always seemed incredibly clumsy) but yeah, I'm a little bit squeamish about some of the lengths that she's gone to.

    Lucky for me that there are early experimentors like her, eh?

    Also, maybe someone can clear this up for me - this seems like (homemade) cybernetics. I has always been my understanding that cybernetics != transhumanism. Is this right? Or does transhumanism include cybernetics, and also things like brain uploading etc. (which is what I would call transhumanism).
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    Have deleted some worthless snark arseholery. This is Whitechapel. If you don't like it, leave.
    • CommentAuthorMarcus
    • CommentTimeJan 2nd 2011
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    I don't think I'd be that keen to experiment even though transhumanism is appealing. There's all sorts of implants already available or just round the corner used for medical reasons that could be modified for extended senses such as vision or hearing.
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      CommentAuthorallana
    • CommentTimeJan 2nd 2011
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    @256, i would probably consider transhumanism to be an overarching term.


    of course i question her need to do it all to herself. it's really not hard to make friends with people who are willing to hurt you, for art or otherwise. i'm impressed with her development of the DIY tools and techniques ('official' magnetic implanting runs for, i think, $200 a pop) but she's just a waiver away from finding some steady-handed piercing apprentice do her bidding. fuck, i'd jump at the chance.
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    And this is another moment I'm glad I don't use my real name here.

    The public face of the scientist in me says, "Don't experiment on yourself. All medical procedures should be sought from a doctor. This is very dangerous."

    The mad scientist who doesn't get to see the light of day thinks this person is pretty fucking awesome. I really hope that she has kept good documentation and notes so that someone, anyone, can eventually take her research beyond the n=1 level.
    • CommentAuthorOddcult
    • CommentTimeJan 3rd 2011
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    Back in the early 90s there were a handful of 'cyberpunks' who were experimenting with wearable computers and cameras and the like. They were all pretty ostentatious and rubbish solutions to barely existing problems.

    Now, most phones pack enough computing and camera power and connectivity into a tiny package that puts all that wearable junk to shame, but it's still a damn block in your pocket or hand.

    Recent protests and changing world events have shown the power and importance of video and connectivity, but I'm wondering if it's time to rethink the 'wearable' idea, but to make it far more subtle and covert, instead of bloody great borg style things that were supposed to look edgy.

    I could see that it would be very, very useful to have a three-directional camera that was uploading content to a multi-mirrored website, powered by piezo snaps in my shoes, all of which would be invisible to anyone looking, if for example, you were stuck in an illegal kettle or subject to a police beasting. Even better would be a twitter-like hivemind command and control system viewed on a contact lens or glasses.

    I can see that any of this would be far more useful than mag-field detection or the ability to find north, which you can do with an analogue wristwatch in daytime and using the stars at night anyway, with five minutes of instruction.

    My point is that we're possibly at the stage where very subtle and invisible tech based body mod is attainable at reasonable cost, and the world is one in which there are uses for this beyond being more l33t than thou.

    First, anyone ahead of me? Second, what's needed and what would you do and how?
    • CommentAuthorArgos
    • CommentTimeJan 3rd 2011
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    Quite a few body mod artists will insert magnetic implants for you. They weren't doing it for many people in the past because the early stages of magnetic implants the silicone surrounding for them were dissolving once implanted, but they've gotten them better now such that those issues with the coating are no longer issues. Shannon Larrat, who started up BME, has magnets implanted into his finger tips (or did, until they removed them and found the coating has dissolved), and he reported being able to feel the electricity from live wires. It's been in the body mod scene for quite a few years now.
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    Yeah, I remember writing about that years ago. I still crack up thinking of the time Shannon decided to stain his eyes blue Fremen-style....
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    The idea of dying one's eyes creeps me out. Mostly it's the needles-near-the-eyes thing. I tried looking up various dying online, but haven't been able to find out how long they last, or if they've impacted people's vision & eyepressure. I find a lot of these mods very interesting to look at, but worry about the health risks involved.
    That being said, I figure it's your body. Do what you want to it.

    I'd think that magnetic/electrical field detection might be a good mod for an electrician to have.
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    There's a whole level of disrespect occurs with this kind of thing that's similar to what the decorative body modders get and I'm a great stickler for letting people do what they want to do, especially if it's to their selves. I seriously baulk at a lot of heavy body modding but I can appreciate some of it, both as a philosophy and aesthetically. This fascinates me no end, and whilst I believe that it is inherently dangerous,I can't help but hope something interesting comes of it.
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      CommentAuthorallana
    • CommentTimeJan 3rd 2011 edited
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    @Rootfireember, that's one of the reasons why i'd like to get a magnet one day. i'm occasionally clumsy with my physical computing; a bit of warning before i solder a live wire might come in handy.

    @oldhat, i guess nobody else freaked out over the subdermal LED arrays?
    http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/18/flexible-implantable-leds-look-set-to-start-a-new-body-modifica/
    touchscreen interface in my forearm. in my lifetime! whoda thunk!

    i can think of about a million procedures i'd be in for if someone would call me not-crazy for wanting them. i mean, i'd gladly give up three-dimensional perception to reroute one of my optic channels to the back of my head. i want flesh-pockets all around my body, for mundane stuff like loose change (nothing so advanced as Friday's trick belly button, you understand). i'd love if it RFID chips held more data and scanners were everywhere. i want to be sutured with conductive thread, and have a permanent piercing corset in my cleavage (for support, you understand). i want LED fingernails. i want i want i want.
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      CommentAuthorallana
    • CommentTimeJan 3rd 2011
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    @warren, out of curiosity, have you ever met Shannon?
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    I can see that any of this would be far more useful than mag-field detection or the ability to find north


    Tactile compass is smart. Been searching all day for a story mentioned in wc before of a possibly German experiment recently that just let people walk around with a vest that tickled them in whatever direction north is for a while. Soon they reported they could take a trip on the bus and point to which direction there house was when they got off; their brains found it easy to sense where they were going and how far. There is a difference between just deciding to look where north is and putting the information constantly in reach of your neuron pathway things.
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    So, just a point of curiosity: what happens to these finger magnets if someone implanted with them ever needs an MRI?

    Sounds life-and-limb dangerous. Professional medical devices tend to be tested and designed to avoid such problems.
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      CommentAuthorJon Wake
    • CommentTimeJan 3rd 2011
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    Or the effects of hot glue dissolving into your bloodstream. Its interesting, and I know many people who would do similar, but it strikes me as more fetishism than genuine kitchen table science. Why not suspend the neodymium magnets in a droplet of glass?

    And for god's sakes, invest in an autoclave. It takes one idiot with a lethal staph infection to get all kinds of draconian laws passed, making it harder for everyone else.
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    @David

    that is exactly the one i was remembering, ha