2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/ Lussumo Vanilla & Feed Publisher http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=281250#Comment_281250 2011-02-01T08:07:40-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 RenThing http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=155

Woke up and saw no Writers' thread this morning so here it is. Remember, the standard no-posting-of-fiction-here-lest-you-get-arse-eeled rule is in effect. We did a great job of not getting the ...

Remember, the standard no-posting-of-fiction-here-lest-you-get-arse-eeled rule is in effect. We did a great job of not getting the thread shut down last month and had some really awesome discussion and encouragement of all of the writer types here on WC so let's keep it up.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=281256#Comment_281256 2011-02-01T08:38:41-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 Jared Axelrod http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3482

New month! New writer's thread! And yet, I'm still writing the same stuff. Go figure. Fablesoftheflyingcity.com is still doing podcast prequel stories set in the world of my upcoming graphic ...

Fablesoftheflyingcity.com is still doing podcast prequel stories set in the world of my upcoming graphic novel, The Battle of Blood and Ink . Should finish up this storyline about mid-March, I think.

Still doing the rewrites of my middle-grade adventure novel. Will this be the month I reach the end? That'd be awesome, wouldn't it? Then I could write...more stuff for Fables of the Flying City. Aw, well....]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=281258#Comment_281258 2011-02-01T08:49:48-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 texture http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1472

I got asked to join a writers group this week, they critique each others work once a month. Its got a good reputation, still quite nervous about showing my work to others in this way. Think it will ...

Anyone else have good or bad experiences with this type of group?]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=281263#Comment_281263 2011-02-01T09:23:04-08:00 2011-02-01T09:25:00-08:00 RenThing http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=155

@texture Yep, I've been in one since this time last year. My wife challenged me back in 2009 that if I really wanted to do the writing thing, then I'd need to put in the work to get better and she ...

Yep, I've been in one since this time last year. My wife challenged me back in 2009 that if I really wanted to do the writing thing, then I'd need to put in the work to get better and she recommended I join a writing group.

My experience with my group has been pretty good. It's nice to get the feedback and they're not shy about saying what didn't work for them and offering suggestions on how to fix it. My group has a lot of novice writers in it, I think I'm the only one who has been paid for any published work, and the only other person with any kind of professional writing-related experience is my copy-editor friend who is also part of the group.

My three biggest challenges with the group was A) learning to accept the criticisms directed toward my work as valid for that person and then honestly parsing their criticism against my work to decide if I felt it should be acted on, B) dealing with other people's writing that, shall we say, is the writing of very new authors and thus sometimes painful to read, and C) being able to look someone in the face as you have their work in your hand and tell them what things you didn't like about their work. The last one was the hardest because I've had two friends ask me for opinions on their stuff and, once I gave it to them, one stopped writing entirely and the other hasn't sent me any of the things she's written since.

However, everyone in the group is mature and really into trying to help each other get better at their craft. We just had two new people join and they marked the hell out of one of my submissions and the new guy out of the two took all of our critiques with a smile and thanked us. I think that's the big thing that makes such groups successful, whether or not people are really in it for the experience of being positively and negatively reviewed or if they're just there to get their ego stroked.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=281264#Comment_281264 2011-02-01T09:24:55-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 adrian r http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=619

I've had good and bad experiences in that context. When I lived in London, I came across some local writers who met once every however often. Nice people, but all nice middle class women who wanted ...

Writing groups can be useful if you need external motivation. I got to a point where I don't, so stopped going to them. Classes and workshops can help, but ultimately you need feedback from whatever gatekeepers function in the industry you're targetting with your work. These days, with what's possible online, even those gatekeepers cease to matter...but a whole new arena of issues arises as you decide whether to be your own publisher and publicist.

As for me, I've had no time for my creative projects for a while as I'm out networking to find more commercial work. But the biggest creative project I'm part of, a collaboration with an artist friend that lends itself to realisation as animation, computer games and more, is getting support from a very successful entrepreneur whose interests include theme park attractions, which is a whole new world to toy with.

youdothatvoodoo -- invigorates, intoxicates, invertebrates]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=281266#Comment_281266 2011-02-01T09:41:06-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 Fauxhammer http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=27

I don't have the sack to join a writer's group. I just throw it out into the wild and see what people say. The Shame motivates me to do better.

The Shame motivates me to do better.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=281269#Comment_281269 2011-02-01T09:44:20-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 John Skylar http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=8976

I started up a group here in NYC three years ago, and it's going strong still. If anything it's one of the really stabilizing influences in my life. Plus, I really do think it's made me a better ...

Plus, I really do think it's made me a better writer. I recommend workshops for everybody, really. Though I think you've got to keep a certain awareness about what the group is doing for you.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=281276#Comment_281276 2011-02-01T10:52:19-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 RenThing http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=155

Looks like Borders books, one of the two big bookstore chains in the US, is, as Eddie Izzard would say, slowly deflating like a flan in a cupboard. The thing that I find seriously annoying about ...

Looks like Borders books, one of the two big bookstore chains in the US, is, as Eddie Izzard would say, slowly deflating like a flan in a cupboard.

The thing that I find seriously annoying about this? Borders and B&N spent so long pushing out independent and small book-stores from local areas where there aren't any other book stores and if Borders goes tits up then those areas will have no access to books, which could negatively impact that markets looking for new material/authors.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=281278#Comment_281278 2011-02-01T11:12:17-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 stephenbaxendale http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3244

Does anyone know of any good online writers workshops? This month I'm trying to bang a script together for a BBC competition, it's a 15-30 min sitcom pilot. If you win they produce the episode ...

This month I'm trying to bang a script together for a BBC competition, it's a 15-30 min sitcom pilot. If you win they produce the episode and put you on a writing master class if you're a runner up. Thought I'd give it a go. Anybody have any sitcom writing experience?]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=281282#Comment_281282 2011-02-01T11:21:54-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 RenThing http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=155

Unfortunately not in either regard, sorry.

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=281285#Comment_281285 2011-02-01T11:38:57-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 HEY APATHY! http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=9019

Hey Everybody, best of luck with 2011 projects! On the subject of writers groups: I'm very new to writing and haven't joined any groups yet but I find myself desperately trying to get anyone I can ...

On the subject of writers groups: I'm very new to writing and haven't joined any groups yet but I find myself desperately trying to get anyone I can to read the stuff because, well, how else could I tell if the words worked. I think a group is a great idea and am going to look into it in the near future. I can see adrian r's point though, the group would certainly have to be made up of the right kinds of people. ( any depraved apocalyptic sadist political new wave hallucinogenic fairy tale writer's groups other than whitechapel out there?)

This year I am working on developing a kids cartoon (possibly 3d) series. I plan to design and write up all the background/origin info and at least one script before throwing it to the wolves, er, I mean the other writers,artists, and producer (just kidding, sort of).



I've already posted a lot of concept sketches for the characters and settings here The writings should be up in a week.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=281320#Comment_281320 2011-02-01T14:51:11-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 texture http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1472

Thanks for all the feedback and opinions about writers' groups guys, I think I'm somewhat over my nerves, Re. what Fauxhammer said, I totally have never had the cojones to join a grpup, favouring the ...

these guys invited me along to the party, and I figured what the hey, it's a challenge. I'll report back!]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=281322#Comment_281322 2011-02-01T14:53:24-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 RenThing http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=155

Please do, we'd love to hear about it.

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=281340#Comment_281340 2011-02-01T17:41:54-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 Vornaskotti http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=6665

Right, last year for me was the year of adventure, this year will be an year of completing things. Stuff to complete are: - At least two interactive fiction games, which I count more as writing ...

- At least two interactive fiction games, which I count more as writing than as game coding.
- My novel, which is about 30% together (but needs a rewrite from the beginning to correct some bad choices).
- Short stories, at least the two I have under construction right now.

So, phew, that's my plan for the 2011 laid out.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=281356#Comment_281356 2011-02-01T19:50:23-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 Zeebo http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1651

I've been to a writers' workshop or two, but unfortunately, most of the ones I went to didn't really involve any spine and half of the people ended up telling each other how good their poetry about ...

On a more cheerful note, I thought I'd only have time for about 350 words per day, but it turns out I can muster closer to 600 in the time I have, so huzzah for that.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=281373#Comment_281373 2011-02-02T00:59:15-08:00 2011-02-02T00:59:45-08:00 stephenbaxendale http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3244

I know what you mean, writers workshops can be very hit and miss. I joined a workshop run by this 'famous writer' and it was just awful. I mean really awful. It was embarrassing. Everyone was ...

I joined a workshop run by this 'famous writer' and it was just awful. I mean really awful. It was embarrassing. Everyone was writing in the same style and using the same themes as the 'famous writer'. Then everyone would have an arse licking session, were they talked about how they sounded like the 'famous writer', while still using the 'famous writer' style. It made me question life. Shower of bastards.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=281459#Comment_281459 2011-02-02T15:21:42-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 Corey Waits http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=453

@texture and everyone else... Yeah, I've been in a writing group for a couple of years now. This group is mostly formed around the idea of performance and each performance usually has a specific ...

Yeah, I've been in a writing group for a couple of years now. This group is mostly formed around the idea of performance and each performance usually has a specific theme, so it's a good challenge to have to write something fitting, and it's a good challenge to get up there and perform it (and perform it well - most writers when doing readings have about as much personality as a dead fish).
It also means I've been able to hook up with writers of various styles and topics and it's been amazing seeing them all in action. I'm also lucky because they are all amazing within their niches, and can still amaze when outside their comfort zones.

It also means I've got another avenue with which to find out about competitions, and to get editing help and feedback on stories. I can't recommend joining a group strongly enough, though obviously your mileage may vary depending on the group.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=281478#Comment_281478 2011-02-02T19:17:26-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 joshdahl http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1707

I have been in a few writer's groups over the years and I have found that are often too supportive of any old thing. You feel like you are being productive because you are completing whatever ...

You feel like you are being productive because you are completing whatever assignment or exercise.....but you don't end up really producing, or seriously critiquing your work. They are nice to keep you afloat of your floundering, but they tend to focus more on the aspiring than the writing.

That sounded really negative. Sorry about that... No, writers groups are good, you just need to choose carefully. And avoid writer's block support groups.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=281506#Comment_281506 2011-02-03T02:46:29-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 Fauxhammer http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=27

@joshdahl That's my big fear about groups reading my shit--not that they rip it apart, but that they go "woooow that's REALLY GOOD" when it isn't, just to be polite. I have a cadre of ...

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=281512#Comment_281512 2011-02-03T04:12:48-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 mercurialblonde http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2444

I did some writing workshops in college. I thought in the end they were most useful in learning a critical eye. I learned how to read someone's work, evaluate what they were going for, see why it ...

The writing workshops I did were for fiction writing--no poetry. I shudder to think what a poetry writing workshop is like. There was one at my school run by a really cantankerous teacher who enjoyed persecuting young poets. People either loved him or stopped sharing their poetry, ha.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=281627#Comment_281627 2011-02-03T18:01:48-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 undulatingungulate http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2670

The quality of a writing group is entirely down to the people in it. *shrug*

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=281667#Comment_281667 2011-02-03T21:08:16-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 Brendan McGinley http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=93

I've started writing for Maxim, and possibly an MTV Crash gig. This is nice, because AOL closed my primary client site last week. Now if only I got home before 10 o'clock on any given night to ...

Now if only I got home before 10 o'clock on any given night to tackle my freelance to-do list.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=281684#Comment_281684 2011-02-03T22:51:07-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 RenThing http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=155

Nice! Can you tell us what you'll be writing for Maxim or are you in the grips of NDA?

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=281706#Comment_281706 2011-02-04T03:25:24-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 texture http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1472

Hey guys, thanks once more for all your advice and stories about writers' groups, it was very valuable and totally helped me deal with the pre-group nerves. The experience went very well - I think ...

over here.

Also, congrats Brendan! Will the columns go online too?]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=281998#Comment_281998 2011-02-05T19:14:58-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 Mister Gunn http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=9978

I'm currently writing a one shot. It's called "The Fear of Spiders." It's an interesting premise. Interdimensional cops vs. a giant spider god. great stuff.

It's called "The Fear of Spiders." It's an interesting premise. Interdimensional cops vs. a giant spider god. great stuff.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=282003#Comment_282003 2011-02-05T20:26:56-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 government spy http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=6088

You know, for a moment there, I thought Brendan's profile picture/motion comic thing was an ad for Dr. Zoidberg as an action hero. Then my mind exploded from how awesome that would be.

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=282009#Comment_282009 2011-02-05T23:04:31-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 Aurora Borealis http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5514

Currently attempting to sort 34k words of notes on a project that's been with me since quite a while (originally it was born as a "hey, all these ideas are kinda overlapping and I could make a ...

I've been on and off on this thing for roughly a decade (since the first writings were done in polish and I switched to english pretty much right after switching to pc) and it's about goddamn time to DO SOMETHING with this.

So what I'm trying to do is to write out a somewhat loose timeline of events, the beats that I need to hit to arrive at the planned conclusion, and flesh out the world a little, and then hit the ground running.

So far kinda failing at it cause the amount of notes is... well...huge, haha. But I know I need to do this. If I keep it sitting in this state for another year, I'll end up with another pile of notes to add and that will make it even harder.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=282017#Comment_282017 2011-02-06T00:21:07-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 BasinBrat http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=9993

I suck at deadlines. Was supposed to submit two columns on a game yesterday and have written... zero. okay, admittedly today is zombiejaundice day, but I should have done something...

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=282035#Comment_282035 2011-02-06T08:43:25-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 Brendan McGinley http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=93

Thanks, all. My assignments will be entirely online, but I have to keep 'em ziplipped for now. I'll let you know when they're up. Writing groups, good or bad, have this universal recommendation ...

Writing groups, good or bad, have this universal recommendation to them: they make you get the work done. All that other Life Stuff that loves to interfere gets stepped on when you have to complete the assignment by tomorrow evening.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=282123#Comment_282123 2011-02-06T19:20:35-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 Agitpunkt http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=48

My new play NEXT had its opening night on Saturday. "In NEXT, a mobile whorehouse is brought to an American army encampment in Europe during WWII. Its presence brings to the surface ...

had its opening night on Saturday.

"In NEXT, a mobile whorehouse is brought to an American army encampment in Europe during WWII. Its presence brings to the surface issues of racism, sexuality, and the fear of impending death. "

Family fun and whatnot.

If any whitechapelers are in the NYC area and are interested in a night of theatre chocked full of obscenity, blasphemy, and various states of undress, I would be happy to buy a post show round at a local bar.

Website: http://www.abraxasstagecompany.org/

Tickets here: http://www.abraxasstagecompany.org/]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=282153#Comment_282153 2011-02-07T01:43:28-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 Colby http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=4976

Writing something for a workshop I'm doing at College. It's pretty fun so far.

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=282190#Comment_282190 2011-02-07T09:51:37-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 RenThing http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=155

Novel is just shy of fifty-thousand words and I think I'm hitting the "It's crap, it's all crap!" part of the process. Definitely dragging and I didn't get any work, other than some ...

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=282297#Comment_282297 2011-02-07T22:47:56-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 Vornaskotti http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=6665

Oh crap. I just realized that a national scifi/fantasy novel competition closes in the end of March. Now I have a deadline to finish the half baked novel project. Why am I feeling massively ...

Why am I feeling massively enthusiastic and totally screwed at the same time? :P]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=282303#Comment_282303 2011-02-08T00:13:16-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 RenThing http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=155

Because there's little like a deadline to light a fire under your ass? So far tonight I've done fifteen hundred words and I'm planning on staying up at least another two hours to keep working. ...

So far tonight I've done fifteen hundred words and I'm planning on staying up at least another two hours to keep working. Novel just crossed over the 50k mark tonight and is coming up on the half-way point of the plot, I should reach it somewhere around fifty-five to fifty-seven thousand words. After that it's all downhill, arms up in the air, screaming at the top of your lungs as you realize the breaks on the rollercoaster don't work.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=282314#Comment_282314 2011-02-08T03:15:10-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 Vornaskotti http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=6665

@RenThing The thing is, I've written for living for over a decade now - articles for magazines and newspapers, that is - and I work very well with deadlines. I've been complaining that writing ...

The thing is, I've written for living for over a decade now - articles for magazines and newspapers, that is - and I work very well with deadlines. I've been complaining that writing long pieces of fiction has been hard because there's no clear deadline or incentive in the end, and now I lost both of those excuses :)

Not complaining, mind you. But, frankly, slightly terrified about having to put my money where my mouth is :)]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=282320#Comment_282320 2011-02-08T04:42:15-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 Fauxhammer http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=27

That's one reason I like the Weaponizer serial schedule. Knowing that I have two weeks to get the next installment in is a nice kick in the ass.

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=282360#Comment_282360 2011-02-08T11:09:10-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 stephenbaxendale http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3244

Do a lot of people here write for weaponiser? I sent them a boozed up gonzo story but I don't think it's really their cup of tea. Fantastic site though. I'm writing a sci-fi piece based around ...

I'm writing a sci-fi piece based around some of the drug abuse i've seen and experienced. Anybody aware of how they feel about stories of drug abuse?]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=282377#Comment_282377 2011-02-08T14:02:51-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 RenThing http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=155

What do people think of this advertisement for a ghost-writer? I have knowledge of that aspect of writing.

ghost-writer? I have knowledge of that aspect of writing.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=282434#Comment_282434 2011-02-09T04:49:33-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 texture http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1472

Yo stephen - the boozed-up gonzo story is going to be published, I just haven't replied to your email yet, sorry. For the record, we accept all types of stories, from historical fiction to romance to ...

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=282439#Comment_282439 2011-02-09T05:23:45-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 Fauxhammer http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=27

@stephen You should see some of the shit I've had up there.

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=282440#Comment_282440 2011-02-09T05:33:52-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 texture http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1472

@Fauxhammer You mean like this charming little tale?

You mean like this charming little tale?]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=282457#Comment_282457 2011-02-09T08:58:48-08:00 2011-02-09T09:00:28-08:00 stephenbaxendale http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3244

Wow that's excellent news thanks Texture. I didn't realise you were an editor there. Brilliant stuff, that's made my day. Renthing, I shall check out that shit.

Brilliant stuff, that's made my day.

Renthing, I shall check out that shit.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=282522#Comment_282522 2011-02-09T16:11:57-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 Fauxhammer http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=27

@texture DRIVEL

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=282535#Comment_282535 2011-02-09T17:28:12-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 Corey Waits http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=453

I've been meaning to check Weaponizer out since the launch but just haven't gotten around to it yet for various reasons (namely being that I do a lot of my internetting at work and it's hard to ...

I'll also submit something one of these days... Actually, I've got an idea for a serialised story that I was going to do on my own blog, but once I've gotten enough work together maybe I should show it to Weaponizer instead. Could be a good match, though the project might also end up being sprawling enough to need its own site.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=282576#Comment_282576 2011-02-10T04:19:21-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 Fauxhammer http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=27

Here's a question: What are some good horror/fantasy mags to submit to? I submitted a Weaponized joint to Weird Tales (with a very nice personalized rejection email), and I really need to get back ...

What are some good horror/fantasy mags to submit to? I submitted a Weaponized joint to Weird Tales (with a very nice personalized rejection email), and I really need to get back up on that thang. Trouble is, I have no idea where to start. Is there a good list with the different publications, thumbnails of what they're looking for, et cetera?]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=282581#Comment_282581 2011-02-10T06:33:52-08:00 2011-02-10T06:34:09-08:00 Will Ellwood http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2556

Because questions about markets are seriously fucking boring and the research isn't anything than a quick Google search away, here's a link to Duotrope's Digest.

Duotrope's Digest.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=282585#Comment_282585 2011-02-10T07:11:11-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 Fauxhammer http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=27

thanks dude

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=282586#Comment_282586 2011-02-10T07:12:24-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 texture http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1472

By the way folks, if anyone has any questions about Weaponizer (submission process, serials, etc etc), please post 'em here or email me, so we don't clutter up this thread. Cheers.

please post 'em here or email me, so we don't clutter up this thread. Cheers.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=282605#Comment_282605 2011-02-10T10:39:31-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 RenThing http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=155

@Fauxhammer Ralan.com is also pretty good. I think Ralan has more listings but Duotrope's got a less Geocities feel to it to me and the ability to customize a weekly mailing to yourself about what ...

Ralan.com is also pretty good. I think Ralan has more listings but Duotrope's got a less Geocities feel to it to me and the ability to customize a weekly mailing to yourself about what new markets are out there is nice.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=282607#Comment_282607 2011-02-10T10:52:07-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 Fauxhammer http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=27

@RenThing At this point, any resource is a good one; I was feeling flummoxed by the enormity of the question, so any info is very well met indeed.

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=282609#Comment_282609 2011-02-10T11:09:14-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 RenThing http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=155

@Fauxhammer *nod* I hear you. I don't know if there are any websites out there for non-genre work but if you find them will you share them here?

*nod* I hear you. I don't know if there are any websites out there for non-genre work but if you find them will you share them here?]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=282611#Comment_282611 2011-02-10T11:20:23-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 Fauxhammer http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=27

Absolutely--I will report back my findings. (clicks heels)

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=282639#Comment_282639 2011-02-10T15:43:02-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 Corey Waits http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=453

Those are very very helpful links, thanks. In Australia all the places I've found to submit to tend to be quite literary-minded and my style tends to be sci-fi with a literary bent, so I haven't been ...

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=282642#Comment_282642 2011-02-10T15:57:47-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 RenThing http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=155

@Corey There are a number of Australian publishers in there, definitely take a look.

There are a number of Australian publishers in there, definitely take a look.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=282767#Comment_282767 2011-02-11T14:46:05-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 stephenbaxendale http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3244

Do you have anything online COREY? I find myself strangely attracted to Australian literary sci-fi.

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=282774#Comment_282774 2011-02-11T15:18:49-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 Corey Waits http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=453

No, nothing at the moment. Publications always seem a bit iffy about work been previously published, even just on a blog, so I've never got around to posting any fiction online because of ...

That's all going to change this year though, so I'll definitely put my hand up in the Writer's Thread when I've got something to show.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=282798#Comment_282798 2011-02-11T18:46:11-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 ruzkin http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=6220

Corey - as a fellow Aussie doing literary scifi, ignore all Aussie markets. We have a few really good scifi mags like Aurealis and Andromeda Spaceways, but they usually want straight genre, not ...

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=283510#Comment_283510 2011-02-15T19:46:46-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 KSullivanLingle http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10083

Hey, guys. New around here in the posting area, but been lurking off and on for years. This looked like a good place to finally say hello seeing as how I'm a "printhead". Writer, gamer, ...

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=283517#Comment_283517 2011-02-15T20:34:23-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 Corey Waits http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=453

When I've got no ideas, I drink and cry. When I have a hundred, I drink and write. There are 4 projects I could be working on, but I think my brain can only work on one at a time. I'm not sure ...

When I've got no ideas, I drink and cry. When I have a hundred, I drink and write.

There are 4 projects I could be working on, but I think my brain can only work on one at a time. I'm not sure how Warren and indeed many other comic writers who have multiple books coming out every month do it. Maybe one day I'll get there, or maybe I'll just have to start and finish a project before getting distracted by the promise of the next.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=283601#Comment_283601 2011-02-16T07:08:34-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 KSullivanLingle http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10083

@Corey - I don’t know if it’s necessarily something you want to aspire to. While I find it admirable in the successful, I find it incredibly annoying in myself. I would much rather focus on one ...

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=283657#Comment_283657 2011-02-16T11:37:29-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 screaming meat http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1219

@KSullivanLingle: That's true up to a point. There is always that fear but I find some of those ideas (at least sometimes) burrow their way into my brain-tank and don't let up, even once they're down.

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=283925#Comment_283925 2011-02-17T15:51:04-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 KSullivanLingle http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10083

That happens with me some lucky days. Maybe I'm just over-anxious, nervous, scaredy-cat. I just don't trust it, that they will, so I try to hack up at least the bones of any idea I think might be ...

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=284883#Comment_284883 2011-02-25T09:24:52-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 RenThing http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=155

Anyone have any experience with query letters to agents/editors?

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=284889#Comment_284889 2011-02-25T09:36:48-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 Vornaskotti http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=6665

The writing project progresses a bit slower than I have hoped, since hammering together 1000-2000 words after a long work day has proved out to be very challenging. I've noticed that my creative time ...

So, I did something I've been wanting to do for some time now. I asked my boss if I could switch to a four work day week, meaning that from no on I'm going to be even more spectacularly broke than before, but I'll have one day per week reserved for just creative projects, and one evening when I can write as late as I want.

This starts next week. I'm really, really looking forward to this.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=284896#Comment_284896 2011-02-25T09:59:44-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 Ed Jackson http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=7577

@Vornaskotti: Make sure it doesn't turn into one day a week reserved for watching Jeremy Kyle and wanking.

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=284898#Comment_284898 2011-02-25T10:17:54-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 Vornaskotti http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=6665

Nah, that's what 3-9pm in an ordinary weekdays are for. Well, minus Jeremy Kyle - don't have a TV and not really my style :> It feels great though that the lack of time is not an excuse, but a ...

It feels great though that the lack of time is not an excuse, but a fact - nowadays when I have the time outside of the evening slump, I'm doing stuff like writing, coding games etc. Feels bloody good.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=284937#Comment_284937 2011-02-25T15:09:08-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 CreativeImbalances http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10081

@Vornaskotti That's pretty cool. Did any of your experience in making games go into the effects in your film?

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=284976#Comment_284976 2011-02-25T23:41:05-08:00 2011-02-25T23:43:35-08:00 Vornaskotti http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=6665

@CreativeImbalances Hmm? The easy answer is no, since I don't really have real experience in making games :) Well, I did a few on C64 and I have several interactive fiction projects waiting to be ...

Hmm? The easy answer is no, since I don't really have real experience in making games :) Well, I did a few on C64 and I have several interactive fiction projects waiting to be finished (right now they are waiting for me to finish this novel manuscript, 34 days and counting). In Iron Sky I'm the publicist and the making of producer, so at the moment I'm not that much involved in the creative side. The main dudes are the director Timo Vuorensola, the vfx producer Samuli Torssonen and the father of the idea of the film + the current community manager Jarmo Puskala. The script is written by an acclaimed Finnish scifi author Johanna Sinisalo and Michael Kalesniko.

When the guys were looking for an idea for the next project after Star Wreck, me and my fiance Susi did write a treatment of a scifi movie, and we did some polish on an early script version of Iron Sky, but that's it.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=285618#Comment_285618 2011-03-04T01:42:59-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 Labyrinthine http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5782

I wasn't sure if I should start up a new thread for this or what, so I'm posting here - I've started being more proactive about submitting my work to journals and magazines, and I wanted a bit of ...

I've been using Duotrope's Digest to find markets, which is pretty great, but it doesn't give the best idea of how the different magazines rank in terms of respect within the industry etc etc. (At the moment I'm mostly sending out poetry since I have a bunch of that lying around, so by the industry I mean... uh... the poetry industry... which sounds a bit oxymoronic xD)

Basically what I've been doing is working my way down the payscale, with preference to stuff in my country, but I'm not sure if that's the best metric, so: how do you guys decide where to submit things?]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=285724#Comment_285724 2011-03-04T19:32:13-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 CinnamonAndSpite http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=5512

I managed to slog through chapter 2 of my autobiographical/memory recollection connection project. This one was keyword : Adolecence, and 9000 something words only covered just over a year. Early ...

Early Adolescence : The Muddled Memories]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=285742#Comment_285742 2011-03-05T00:47:13-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 Vornaskotti http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=6665

Hmm, looks like this approach is working. The first creative Friday resulted in 3000 words of text, with time left for having lunch with friends and baking a cake :)

http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=286121#Comment_286121 2011-03-08T18:30:53-08:00 2011-03-08T18:32:41-08:00 King Crabclaw http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10131

@Labyrinthine I have been wondering the same thing. In fact, this question alone confounded me enough to push me into starting work on a novel since I knew that would take several months as ...

I have been wondering the same thing. In fact, this question alone confounded me enough to push me into starting work on a novel since I knew that would take several months as opposed to a week or so of writing and maybe another of editing that a short story typically takes me so that I could delay having to answer it.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=286130#Comment_286130 2011-03-08T20:06:26-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 alexwilson http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=43

@Labyrinthine I generally want to be published in the places I read, so I look for stuff I like (which is often the stuff I write like, but not always), and submit there. If there are poets you ...

I generally want to be published in the places I read, so I look for stuff I like (which is often the stuff I write like, but not always), and submit there. If there are poets you like, find out where their work first appears. If you tend to read collections or best-of anthologies, they often say where work first appeared. If your goal is to win awards, find out where the work of previous winners appeared. If you want to eventually publish a collection with a certain small press (who publishes books you like) or with a certain university or editor, see if they have any periodicals/literary magazines/anthologies with open submission policies.]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=286179#Comment_286179 2011-03-09T10:51:51-08:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 RenThing http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=155

@Labyrinthine Where I submit to is based off of several factors: 1. Are they well-known, in any way? There's a level of difference between getting published in Analog vs. Electric Velocipede vs. ...

Where I submit to is based off of several factors:
1. Are they well-known, in any way? There's a level of difference between getting published in Analog vs. Electric Velocipede vs. Weird Tales vs. Bob's Backyard Blog of Horror. The name/reputation of the market is important to me.

2. What is their compensation? Some people want to be published just to be published and that's good enough, knowing that their work is out there and that people may be reading and enjoying it. Me? I'd like to get paid in addition to all of that, so when I look for markets I look for how much they're compensating. What's the pay rate? Will I get my own copy of the work for free? What about discounts on future orders of said work? If there's a royalties set-up, how are they going to determine pay and the split between the authors.

It should be noted that there are other forms of compensation that should also be taken into account, other than cold, hard cash (pennies are often both cold and hard, right?). If a market doesn't pay but does have a very good name with a high amount of and traffic readership then the exposure could be good (although be wary of places that offer payment "by exposure").

3.What rights am I going to be giving up and for how long?

4. The timing of the submission. Is this market an anthology with a deadline? Can I make that deadline in regards to any other projects I've got going on?

5. Do I have a fugging idea that might work?]]> http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9490&Focus=286642#Comment_286642 2011-03-13T09:40:35-07:00 2013-05-22T20:13:41-07:00 Vornaskotti http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=6665

Seems these creative Fridays made all the difference in the world for me, it's incredible what one day that's budgeted just for writing does to the morale, concentration and discipline in my case. ...