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    • CommentAuthorbiglig
    • CommentTimeApr 20th 2011
     (9570.41)
    @CatVincent the latest Radio Times reveals which line - and of course it's the best one.
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    doctor grain.

    There was a theatre premiere in NYC last week.
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    @RACHEL TYRELL

    Normally, I hate big cities. Too much traffic. Too many crowds. Too much noise.

    But, i do tend to miss events like this one. I would have loved to have had the opportunity to go to this.

    Im jealous.
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    Nice photo.

    But wow, everything that bugs me about Doctor Who encapsulated in one image too.
  4.  (9570.45)
    But wow, everything that bugs me about Doctor Who encapsulated in one image too.

    What bugs you exactly? just curious.
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    Are you talking about the casting, of younger and younger actors as the doctor vs. the older series, which had old men? I've heard that compliant, from the older crowd.

    EDIT: By the way, don't mean to compare you a angry old guy, yelling about the olden days, boss. And yes, I'll punish myself for using old too many times.
  6.  (9570.47)
    Are you talking about the casting, of younger and younger actors as the doctor vs. the older series, which had old men? I've heard that compliant, from the older crowd.


    That doesn't bother me so much, because of course when I was watching DOCTOR WHO they were ALL older than me, even Peter Davison, and I am aware that I've aged in the interim.
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    So you want us to guess, Mr. Ellis? Ok. I'll play the game.

    Is it the fact that they are coming out of a more modest car, instead of a limo? The show doesn't get the proper respect that it deserves.
    I mean, it is a t.v. show that has stayed relevant even after more then 5 decades, Very few T.V. Shows have that claim, yet Dr. Who doesnt seem to be as popular as Star Trek or Twilight Zone, here in America. Is that what you mean?
    Cause I think Dr. Who's popularity will grow here in America, if they keep coming up the quality of the show. Just my two cents.
  8.  (9570.49)
    Is it that the series takes place on Second Avenue? And makes frequent copious use of sunglasses?
    ...no, wait.
  9.  (9570.50)
    I think it's because they appear "hip, cool, skinny and pretty."
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    It's kind of indicative to me of a programme disappearing up its own fundament a little bit. Including but not limited to an American premiere.
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      CommentAuthorallana
    • CommentTimeApr 22nd 2011
     (9570.52)
    well, they did shoot the whole season in america, didn't they? they probably jumped your shark long before the premiere.
  11.  (9570.53)
    No. They didn't. But now you think they did. Funny, that.
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    When you see the new Brits so increasingly eager to break america or go to Hollywood it stings....

    Mitchell from Being Human's gone, Nathan from Misfits (DAMN!) ,Russel Brand, lover of Bill Hicks, doing schmaltzy romcoms...and the bands and all the british songstresses talking like valley girls,and englishmen having their bodyhair removed by lasers,living off kiwifruit and broccoli...

    You can't really blame them, the lure of adventure and wealth ,but the yanks are snapping up the Brit talent faster and faster into it's ravenous maw as the years pass.

    and much is lost in all the glittery bullshit.

    That stink of Hollywood Ego too....brrrr...
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    englishmen having their bodyhair removed by lasers,living off kiwifruit and broccoli...

    hahahahaha okay i'll shut up hahahahaha
    • CommentAuthorOddcult
    • CommentTimeApr 22nd 2011
     (9570.56)
    Is it the fact that they are coming out of a more modest car, instead of a limo?


    That's an open topped old-style Mini.

    You don't have those in America. Hell, there are hardly any over here and they're all custom made. Either hiring one of those in the US, or shipping one over specially, would cost, far, far, far more than hiring a limo in New York.

    Someone thought about that and spent a lot of money on it.
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    Oddcult That's an open topped old-style Mini

    Not familiar with cars, so I'll take your word for it:)

    So in essence, Dr Who is becoming too succesful whereby it's gotten the attention of Hollywood, and as we already know, in Hollywood, everybody fails upwards.

    There is the fear that the Dr. Who show will be more Americanized and Hollywooded. Hmm. I just made up a word.
    • CommentAuthorOddcult
    • CommentTimeApr 22nd 2011
     (9570.58)
    NB: Last time I checked, the Doctor Who merchandise market alone was worth around £800m a year. The BBC gets around 15-20% of that. That's leaving out DVDs and overseas licensing etc. In terms of value, it's probably doing around the same levels as a middlingly successful Summer tent-pole film, give or take, depending on the merchandising value of said Summer tent-pole film. But it's got the neat trick that as a franchise it can easily renew itself or be shelved and restarted if the figures do drop.

    I'm basing this on industry figures in Toy News magazine and have no information about the value of rights etc to add to this.

    What this may mean is that although there are probably American studio executives wondering why they don't own the rights for a movie version to slot someone like James Franco into the lead slot, and 'hey, Carey Mulligan was in it once too, she'd be great as Doctor Who*'s girlfriend and that's a bone to throw the fans!', there's no real way to make the figures work in terms of just chucking money at someone to get it and the BBC could probably afford to finance a big screen version fairly easily anyway too.

    I wouldn't be surprised to see both 10 and 11 chucked into a 'Two Doctors' type thing if this did happen, as they've both now got name recognition, especially if the Fright Night remake does well, but I really can't see Hollywood finding a way to do it.







    *I know. I never would. I'm quoting the hypothetical conversation.
    • CommentAuthorStefanJ
    • CommentTimeApr 22nd 2011
     (9570.59)
    The new season has been getting some press in the States this last week. A story this morning on NPR covered how the BBC was trying to fight torrent-downloads of the show (by scheduling a same-day premiere of the new season). A few days back the local paper's Television column was devoted to the premiere. All told, more attention than the series has ever recieved over here in my recollection.

    But still, way less attention than is being paid to the royal wedding.

    In any case . . . yeah, I think I would be concerned about the show being diluted or Americanized.
  15.  (9570.60)
    Thank you for the compliment, Mister Ellis.

    I have to say it's really freaking me out, the furor that Doctor Who is spawning, and I sort of hate it. It's the Buffy-ization of something mostly "for geeks" and mostly romance-free. I mean, the lead in to Doctor Who in America used to be Blakes 7, and that was at 9 on a Saturday night. Definitely NOT the show for the hip and squeeing young adults with a social life.

    That being said, I really really REALLY feel like the Matt Smith era is Moffat saying:

    "... yeah... a young woman with a dorky boyfriend who is jealous of her relationship with the Doctor, but proved to be badass in his own way? A badass dude that likes men? The Doctor involved in a romance? yeah, I see what you were going with that to resurrect the series Davies, but here's how I would have done it. Without the shmaltz, tears, the crises that lack any foreshadowing, or the OMG THE WHOLE UNIVERSE IS GOING TO END thing. You do know that saving the lives of three people can generate more tension than saving the cosmos, right?"


    And it's SO FUCKING GOOD.

    Um. But the youth thing? The fact that the doctor is younger than me? You might be ok with it Mister Ellis, but... EGAD it kills me.

    @OddCult - I am really honestly looking forward to the Fright Night remake.



    EDITED TO ADD: I don't pay much attention to Torchwood myself, but you guys are aware that there's an American version in production, right?