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Fuck Yeah!
Part of me will be so dissapointed when the Team America theme isn't in the final cut of the movie. But yep, cautiously optimistic, and very pleased to see the Howling Commandos featured as much as they are. -
- CommentAuthorhelloMuller
- CommentTimeMar 26th 2011
I think its looking rather good. The VFX on tiny Chris Evans look amazing. -
I would pay a million dollars for Fuck Yeah to be the end credits music.
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- CommentAuthortcatsninfan
- CommentTimeMar 26th 2011
It looks interesting but I still think they took the look of the suit too far. I realize he's supposed to be a symbol for America and all that, but realistically it just makes him look like a giant target for every wanker with a bazooka, grenade, etc.
Plus it looks a tad silly, generally speaking. -
I like it. It looks better than I was expecting. It maybe seems rather generic, but "generic" is better than "bad".
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- CommentAuthorgovernment spy
- CommentTimeMar 27th 2011
realistically it just makes him look like a giant target for every wanker with a bazooka, grenade, etc.
I thought that was the point of the Captain America persona anyway? He was supposed to be this over the top patriotic target that was designed to draw all the gunfire, etc. but could actually dodge it, to draw fire away from the average soldier. Maybe that was in some revision of the character, I dunno. -
That's what I've heard before, too. Maybe it wasn't the original intent of the costume, because people didn't think about stuff like that back in the day, but it's definitely the modern interpretation that the costume was a distraction.
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CommentAuthorGreasemonkey
- CommentTimeMar 27th 2011
It reminds me of the old Marshall Law stuff by Pat Mills and Kevin O'neill, with loudly-dressed superheroes fighting in the trenches. -
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Skinny Steve is a bit too skinny for me. It even seems too unnatural.
I know that it put's the transformation into Captain into the postlight, from very puny to hulky
But i think they want a bit too far in the cartonesk visual of the skinny Steven -
- CommentAuthorgovernment spy
- CommentTimeMar 28th 2011 edited
...and the bit with the garbage can lid was cheesy. I'm still ok with it so far though, and I did like the addition of Howard Stark. Fanboy points for that. -
They've had to do the Howard Stark thingy, because they mentioned it in Iron Man 2 and the creation of SHIELD
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- CommentAuthorBOODOFFSTAGE
- CommentTimeMar 29th 2011
What I love about trailer.
The costume. Perfect. This is what worried me the most, especially when they decided to go with world war 2 movie. I was afraid the original custome would be too unrealistic but they did an excellent job. Kept the flavor of the original costume and wrapped it in a soldier uniform, which looks faded and used like it should. I got no problem with the look since story wise, Cap was supposed to be a symbol of americas strength and ingenuity. It's more than plausible that the military would have created a uniform to emphasize that symbol.
The howling commandoes. Strenghtened by the perfect image of Jim Dugan. I don't know who the actor is, but he's instantly recognizable by the fans and it reinforces that they are taking the source material seriously.
the emphasis of Weak Steve Rogers determination to join the war culminating in tha trash can lid scene. Unlike others, I didn't think it was cheesy, i thought it was perfect.
the shield being thrown.
the red skull appearance.
That Howard Stark is the one who pulls the lever that turns on the machine that creates Captain America. Going from memory, this was never been a part of the comic book canon, but it should have been:)
What I didn't like about the trailer. Mostly nit picking. When all I can do is nit pick, that is a good sign.
The girl shooting at the shield. For me, this was the most unrealistic moment in the trailer. The way the trailer is set up, it looks like there were other people in the room, especially a guy who was just standing next to steve rogers. No trained soldier, male or female, would shoot a gun so recklessly, the ricochets could have hit anyone else in that room including the girl doing the shooting. Im hoping that was just the trailer edit, and not the actual movie edit of this scene.
The flamethrowers scene. Another scene that bugged me, why try to coral Captain with flame, why not just shoot directly at him and kill him? I'm hoping that the story explains why they weren't trying to kill him. Maybe the enemy want to capture him to try and gain the knowledge of the super soldier serum.
The sound of the Shield. I've always believed that the shield should have a distinct sound when it flies through the air and when it ricochets or hits something, a sound that would be instantly recognizable, like the sound of a light saber. There was no such sound in the trailer. -
- CommentAuthoricelandbob
- CommentTimeMar 29th 2011
I just couldn't take my eyes of those flesh balloons they stuck on his chest! -
- CommentAuthorDavidLejeune
- CommentTimeMar 29th 2011
The girl shooting at the shield. For me, this was the most unrealistic moment in the trailer. The way the trailer is set up, it looks like there were other people in the room, especially a guy who was just standing next to steve rogers. No trained soldier, male or female, would shoot a gun so recklessly, the ricochets could have hit anyone else in that room including the girl doing the shooting. Im hoping that was just the trailer edit, and not the actual movie edit of this scene.
If I might don my nerd hat for a moment: Cap's shield is made of vibranium, one of the chief properties of which is that it absorbs the kinetic energy of things that hit it, such as bullets. If a bullet hits the shield and all (or even most) of its kinetic energy is absorbed by it, then the bullet can't ricochet. Via the power of comic book and/or movie magic, this property does not extend to the kinetic energy of the shield itself, thus allowing it to whang off of walls and Nazis and such and return to Cap.
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CommentAuthorBen Klumaster
- CommentTimeMar 30th 2011
@BOODOFFSTAGE"I've always believed that the shield should have a distinct sound when it flies through the air and when it ricochets or hits something, a sound that would be instantly recognizable, like the sound of a light saber."
You mean this? -
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- CommentAuthorWill Ellwood
- CommentTimeMar 30th 2011
For me, this was the most unrealistic moment in the trailer.
In a film where a man is turned into a superhero by science and fights Red Skull, that's the most unrealistic moment in the trailer?
I don't think "realism" has much of a relationship with anything to do with Captain America or any superhero film. -
@BOODOFFSTAGE - Dugan is played by Neal McDonough, who was also in Band of Brothers (he had a pretty big role in that). Apparently he likes acting in WW2 period pieces.
I still hold moderate hopes for this film after seeing the newer, longer trailer. The fact that the Team America song will most likely not, unfortunately, appear in the final cut has already given it one strike.