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    • CommentAuthorOddcult
    • CommentTimeAug 2nd 2012
    I'm just imagining the 'there are seven working defences...' bit in Robocop's voice. And it's making me feel a little funny.
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    Just think, the hostage scene that Robocop ripped off from The Dark Knight Returns is actually going to be played by Robocop.

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    I think Charles Bronson did it first. Whatever, badassedness rulez!

    Speaking of which, I just watched the trailer again: Batman gives the mutant leader a Chuck Norris-style roundhouse kick to the face.
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    O.K. for those of you who want to see the movie on the big screen for free and live either in the Los Angeles or New York area:

    Warner Home Video announces bi-coastal premieres of
    at The Paley Center for Media in New York, Los Angeles

    Highly-Anticipated Premieres slated for September 20 & 24;
    Media Invited to Red Carpet Interviews & Screenings;
    Limited Free Tickets Available to Fans on First Come, First Served Basis

    Warner Home Video and The Paley Center for Media proudly present the bi-coastal World Premieres of Batman: The Dark Knight Returns, Part 1, the next entry in the popular, ongoing series of DC Universe Animated Original PG-13 Movies, in New York on September 20 and Los Angeles on September 24. Filmmakers and members of the voice cast will attend both events for red carpet media interviews and post-screening panel discussions.

    On Thursday, September 20, Batman: The Dark Knight Returns, Part 1 will screen at the Paley Center in New York City (25 West 52nd Street) with media interviews starting at 5:00 p.m. and screening commencing at 6:30 p.m. Following the screening, actor David Selby (The Social Network/Dark Shadows), the voice of Commissioner Gordon, and eight-time Emmy Award winning dialogue/casting director Andrea Romano will lead a panel discussion. Additional panelists will be announced as confirmed.

    On Monday, September 24, Batman: The Dark Knight Returns, Part 1 will screen at the Paley Center in Los Angeles (465 North Beverly Drive in Beverly Hills) with media interviews starting at 5:30 p.m. and screening commencing at 7:00 p.m. A panel discussion will follow the screening featuring actors David Selby (The Social Network/Dark Shadows) and Ariel Winter (Modern Family), executive producer Bruce Timm, director Jay Oliva, writer Bob Goodman and dialogue/casting director Andrea Romano. Additional participants, including voice cast members, will be announced as confirmed.

    A limited number of free tickets are available for the general public.

    Fans wishing to receive free tickets to the New York event on September 20 must RSVP via email to:

    Fans wishing to receive free tickets to the Los Angeles event on Sept. 24 must RSVP via email to:

    All fan RSVPs email MUST include the name of the entrant, a valid email, and the name of the media outlet/website by which the entrant learned of the screening.

    Tickets to both events will be distributed on a “first come, first served” basis.
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    I never understood why the Dark Knight Returns gets all the love it gets. The story has some interesting aspects to it but the artwork is awful, boring, and there are far too many tiny panels per page
    • CommentAuthorOddcult
    • CommentTimeAug 30th 2012
    When it came out, there was pretty much nothing like it.
    • CommentTimeAug 30th 2012
    I've always enjoyed it. It was crazy for me as a kid to see Batman beat the shit out of Superman, as that put to rest alot of nerd arguments in my basement.
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    DC has posted another clip from the DTV:

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    @Martinsheen I felt exactly the same when I first read Watchmen. I mean it was good and re-readings revealed the beauty of it's structure, but it wasn't untill I tried reading pre-80's superhero comics that I realised what a watershed Watchmen TDKR and other mid-80's comics were.
    It's like the switch from silent movies to talkies.

    Anyway I've watched it, and it was much better than I expected.
    I didn't get far into the animated films of Batman Year One and All Star Superman. To me they both seemed stilted. Closer to motion comics than a film. I know voice-over work is often done one actor at a time, but with these two films it showed.
    On the other hand I loved Batman: Under The Red Hood more than most live action Batman films (maybe because I was only familiar with parts of the story) and the film of Justice League: The New Frontier (also not familiar with the source material)
    I put this with Red Hoot and New Frontier.
    They've toned down the 80'sness of it, while keeping most of the social commentary. They've also toned down the Frank Millerness of it to both good and bad effect.
    Despite him becoming a dick, I'll always love his art style but it's neutered here. So is some of the earnest/satirical fascism.
    We all (right?) thought Clint Eastwood, old Paul Newman, Lee Marvin etc for Old Batman, but actually Peter Weller is perfect. Weller shows that Batman, even as a grumpy facist angry violent old man, still has his dicipline and code.
    Really the thing that made this outshine Year One and All Star Superman for me was the soundtrack. It's generic, repetitive, nothing you'd listen to on its own, but it's loud and stirring and cinematic and just makes the whole thing feel like a proper Film, instead of an exercise in adaptation.

    Whether making a decent (but not revolutionary) animated adaptation of a legendary comic book is a good idea? Shrug. Be nice to see the reaction from someone who knows nothing about TDKR after watching this.

    Looking forward to the second part.
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    I never got that feeling with Watchmen.. The first time I read it I could definately see how it must have been groundbreaking.

    I will give Under the Red Hood a try on your suggestion. Cheers for that.

    It is a shame Frank Miller turned out to be such a dick, but after looking at his work its obvious that his views were always on show for us to see. In a sense that is a good thing though.. I like that the world has different people with different views producing art that reflects these.
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    They announced The Joker in part 2 will be voiced by Michael Emerson - Ben Linus from Lost, currently Harold Finch in Person of Interest. Love me some Hamill but very curious to hear Emerson's take.

    @MartinSheen - Batman in Red Hood is voiced by Bruce Greenwood, a personal fave of mine ever since the 90s show Nowhere Man. He also does the Bat for Young Justice. I like his version a lot.
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    really enjoyed it, and looking forward to part 2, best batman movie i've seen this year by some distance
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    @ Cat Vincent - also Mark Valley (Human Target) is voicing Superman in DKR pt 2. I really like his Superman voice on part 2. I think he added some sympathy to the character that I think the book lacked.

    Also, to anyone who is going to the Paley Center in Los Angeles screening, they have announced that Peter Weller himself will be there.

    edit: I'm glad, so far, there are no "WB is ripping off the fans releasing this in 2 parts" comments after seeing the movie. I saw those comments elsewhere and considering that the movie was downloaded for free...well, I love the irony I guess.
    • CommentAuthorOddcult
    • CommentTimeSep 14th 2012
    So, I watched this last night.

    What was missing was Batman's internal monologue as narration. All those brilliant lines. Except I filled them in myself anyway.

    I wonder if showings of this are going to turn into some kind of weird karaoke, where everyone watching either reads along with the comic, or like me, they know the classic ones so well anyway that they fill them in without reference.

    I mean... things like 'the scream alone is worth it' and 'there are seven working defences from this position' were missing. Except the space for them was still there. So, you know, gruff up yer voice a bit and do them anyway. Take a swig if you miss one, or make up your own rules.

    It's a pity they're not there, but this could be turned into something fun to do at showings.
    • CommentAuthorOddcult
    • CommentTimeSep 14th 2012
    @atomicsloth - agree with you about the soundtrack. It was great. I actually thought for a bit that they'd lifted the music from Near Dark or The Keep, as it sounded like Tangerine Dream, which was oddly right for it.

    So, yeah, growl along with The Dark Knight Returns is the new thing to do with your slightly nerdy mates.
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    @ Oddcult - I think we were damned if we do and damned if we don't on the inner dialog thing. Some people hated it on "Batman: Year One" and said we made a motion comic instead of an adaption. To be honest, I could argue both sides of the fence whether it should be in there or not.

    edit: and I agree Chris Drake bought his "A game" this time for the score. Jay Oliva wanted this movie to feel like it was made in '86 so he wanted the score to have touches of Basil Poledouris in there. I hear some Vangelis and Giorgio Moroder florishes as well.
    • CommentAuthorOddcult
    • CommentTimeSep 14th 2012
    The animation felt oddly stilted in Year One though. It threw the pace off. Not as badly as something like the Hellsing OVA felt like a shitty motion comic compared to the earlier, really good series, but something just prevented it being enjoyable to sit in front of. I don't think that the problem was the narration there, it was the timing and pacing of the scenes.

    In DKR the timing felt actively like there were gaps left and the narration was missing, so I filled it in myself. It was a real pity that so many great lines - the gritty hyperbolic psycho-bat classics - were lost as a result of their being no way to get the internal monologue out there.

    But yeah, we've invented DKR internal monologue karaoke to fill in, so that's something.
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    Just a reminder that the NY screening is tomorrow.

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    Yes! I got a confirmation email that I'm on the list, but is it just a single invite, or do people get a plus one? I tried emailing, but have gotten no response.