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      CommentAuthormojojoseph
    • CommentTimeFeb 12th 2008 edited
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    Has anyone done it?

    I'm at the point now of being absolutely determined that 2008 is the year I get my work published, even if I do it myself.
    This has now been further burned into my desires as I have been turned down for a Creative Writing Lecturing job because I as yet have only one short story published.

    Anyway, I've checked some things out and think I have some ideas on what I'm going to do (though any other ideas of your own are welcome, of course), but just wondered if anyone here had done it, seen as there's quite a lot of creative types here.

    Also, has Warren Ellis ever self-published? This is oddly interesting to me at this moment.
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    Publishing for yourself (or others) is a real pain. First you've got to edit, proofread, and re-edit everything 100 times. You'd be wise to buy a lot of beers for talented friends and get help. Especially if you've got experienced, talented friends. Then you've got to deal with the printers and then the distributor. (Distributors if you also go the bookstore route.)

    It's a lot of work on top of all the work you'll do as a writer.

    If you're willing to dig in and devote a lot of time to developing everything necessary to get your book out there, then it's a great way to get published and retain control. Then again, it doesn't sound like you've submitted to any of the publishers out there. If you get another publisher to pick up your book then you can spend all your time writing and let others worry about publishing. Just put together a team and get an issue ready for submitting. Even if no one picks you up, you're still further along on your self-publishing dreams.

    Shawn
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      CommentAuthormojojoseph
    • CommentTimeFeb 12th 2008
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    Thanks Shawn

    A group of my friends and I are actually looking at self-publishing a comic too, hopefully out this year, but realistically next year.

    You're kinda right in assuming I haven't really tried sending to publishers as yet. My main worry is that at this time I have several novels gestating, or slowly coming along (as I primarily havd an MA dissertation, film screenplay and comic to finish writing, on top of my soul killing day job), but no finished ones. All my work that is actually finished and ready are short stories or poetry. I'm not too sure what publishers are like with that, or if they would be cool knowing that they could be signing up to a work in progress with a new writer.

    I had been a bit more worried about the actual distribution of any self-published work. As yet that's the only part I have yet to consider.

    Thanks for your response though
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      CommentAuthormojojoseph
    • CommentTimeFeb 12th 2008
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    I'd also kinda like to point out that I haven't just been lazy with the sending stuff in. I sent some stuff not too long ago, and in most cases got no reply.

    I did get a reply off Marvel though, who said they liked my writing, but the story I pitched was not something they were looking to do at that time (it involved Northstar, so that says a lot). I suppose that's actually good, but I still had a slight rejection woe over it lol
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      CommentAuthormuse hick
    • CommentTimeFeb 12th 2008
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    i actually think that the harder part of the self-publishing process is the marketing. i am networking like crazy on different sites trying to make contacts -- the idea being that it is quantity of contacts not so much quality that will help you push it. my friends have used guerrilla marketing -- putting bookmarks for the book in other books in the bookstore -- whatever it takes to get the word out there.
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    If you're talking about self-publishing comics, you'll have more luck striking up a conversation at http://www.panelandpixel.com
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      CommentAuthorZ
    • CommentTimeFeb 12th 2008 edited
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    I've been pushed to self-publish (since I've refused to submit elsewhere), but the whole process seems daunting.

    - Z

    <em>Edit to add: Sorry about that, Warren. I thought this was a thread for self-publishing in general, something I know nothing about- but may have to soon. </em>
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      CommentAuthormojojoseph
    • CommentTimeFeb 12th 2008
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    Yeah, I was thinking more general, novels etc.

    However, self publishing comics is something me and a local group are planning on, so I'll check out that site, thanks Warren
    • CommentAuthorJim Moore
    • CommentTimeFeb 12th 2008
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    If you can find it, try picking up the Cerebus Guide to Self Publishing (I hope that's the title, I haven't read it in ages). Entertaining look at the whole process from someone who would know.
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    I've used Lulu for simple self-publishing of gifts for friends, nothing on a large scale.
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    Jim Munroe's website, nomediakings.org has a wealth of information about self publishing. All information I plan on taking advantage of, some day soon.
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      CommentAuthorZ
    • CommentTimeFeb 12th 2008
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    Thanks for the suggestions.

    @Roo

    I know Will has used Lulu too. What's your definition of 'small-scale'? For the purposes of my own project, I'd be looking at doing a limited run so that there was some end to the madness.

    Not sure how that works.

    - Z
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      CommentAuthorAlexis
    • CommentTimeFeb 12th 2008
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    I use lulu.com. They are not the cheapest thing out there, so you probably won't make a ton of money from it, but they are set up to print comic books and the quality of the product is pretty good, better then cafe express, in my opinion. I would recommend them, especially if you are looking to sell and promote your work at conventions.
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      CommentAuthorZ
    • CommentTimeFeb 12th 2008
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    Actually, if all goes to plan, I'll lose money. I have no desire to be an authour.

    (shrug)

    Stupid, I know.

    ...

    Not going to be hand selling or even promoting, at least I <em>doubt it</em>, but colour quality would be a concern, there's this crazy talented guy that wants to put pictures in it..

    More cost effective means I can pay the folks involved better, but I don't think I'd resort to Cafe Express, their stuff has always looked a bit cheap to me.

    - Z
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    @Z -I've done small projects of about 5 copies to hand to relatives.
    /that/ small scale ;) I would have done bookbinding wholly by hand, but lack most of the materials needed here.
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      CommentAuthorZ
    • CommentTimeFeb 14th 2008
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    I thought about the by-hand thing, it was suggested to me by a reader, but based on the subscriber count I don't think I would want to have to do that many by myself.

    Based on what's being discussed, the majority of copies would have to pass through my hands at some point, so I'd like to reduce the amount of work required for each one.

    Daunting, really.

    - Z