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      CommentAuthorhectorlima
    • CommentTimeFeb 12th 2008
     (978.1)
    someone just sent me this and I'm so burnt by viral marketing that for the moment I can only think it's some promo for SuicideGirls or maybe Cloverfield 2... if "proven" real [what IS Real, anyway] then it's very very sad. I've seen people fool friends with fake deaths online before, so I don't know what to make of this yet.

    http://90dayjane.blogspot.com/

    I am going to kill myself in 90 days. What else should i say? This blog is not a cry for help or even to get attention. It's simply a public record of my last 90 days in existence. I'm not depressed and nothing extremely horrible has lead me to this decision. But, does it really have to? I mean, as an atheist I feel life has no greater purpose. My generation has had no great depression, no great war and our biggest obstacle is beating Halo 3. So, if I feel like saying "game over", why can't I? Anyway, I hope you enjoy my thoughts as the clock runs out. Also, if blogspot takes this down before i'm gone just go to www.90dayjane.com. Please don't attempt to "help" me. If you want to truly help, please send me ideas on how to do the deed. thx-Jane
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      CommentAuthorFauxhammer
    • CommentTimeFeb 12th 2008
     (978.2)
    It's being discussed on unfiction.com's forums, and a lot of the posters there seem to think it might be a "chaotic fiction".

    Though, I don't know. Shit, what could you do?
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      CommentAuthorZ
    • CommentTimeFeb 12th 2008
     (978.3)
    Pathetic.

    This sort of bullshit is very clearly a cry for attention, whether it's attention to be directed to 'blahblah fiction', to her psychic vampirism that drains her friends of their time and compassion, or to a real need for help. By feeding into it, it only makes the problem greater.

    I'll admit to being dark, and bleak, and whiney, and complaining, but I make a sincere effort to hear and listen to all of that from others in turn with as much compassion and understanding as I can manage.

    The only thing to be done for this girl is reporting her to the whitecoats and crossing your fingers.

    Ultimately, it's her choice and her choice alone. If it's a marketing campaign, it's a shit one, and a cheap shot.

    - Z
  1.  (978.4)
    Wow. Terrible and weird. But compelling to read it, isn't it?
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      CommentAuthorZ
    • CommentTimeFeb 12th 2008
     (978.5)
    No, it isn't. She's going to continue to do this as long as she has the attention. If it's a work of fiction or a project, she should say so. If it's real, anyone who's tried to help and been dismissed should go get a life since this girl obviously doesn't want anything more from hers than causing hurt and distress in others. Psychic fucking vampire.

    - Z
  2.  (978.6)
    I meant it more in the context of compelling to read as something really only possible because of the internet. Concept wise, it sucks ass. I'm with you there. It's just one of those things that can only be labelled, Only On The Internet.
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      CommentAuthorZ
    • CommentTimeFeb 12th 2008
     (978.7)
    Except that it's not only on the internet.

    People find it easy to talk to these people via the internet because there's a sense of distance, you're removed from the problem. If it is a problem in her case, she's not removed from it at all, and anyone who does buy into it (internet, or real life) is adding to the problem, not helping it.

    Your friend calls you on the phone and says they want to commit suicide. Your friend send you an e-mail and says they want to commit suicide. Are those cries for attention any different?

    The only difference here is you don't know her. Someone does, and if they're not getting her help- real help, not 'gosh please don't do this' attention-feeding help- they aren't her friend.

    - Z
  3.  (978.8)
    Sometimes people get fed up with professional help. Taking pills every day to be 'normal' *SUCKS ASS*, and depression is so over-diagnosed it's hard for those who are in trouble and know it to get treatment, because people think they're exagerating, and ,at least around here, public free help for it is availible ONLY if you are going to kill yourself RIGHT NOW (I think it's part of why my state's suicide rate's jumped the past few years).

    Because I suffer from Double Depression (Whee) I'm probably not going to read the blog (I don't want to trigger a crash of my own, this is a bad time of the year for me due to extenuating circumstances), but find its concept incredibly sad.

    In my own family, one of my older male relatives called someone to tell them he was going to kill himself. They didn't come by to check on him, and he was found dead a short while after; reading the notes on his death has been utterly haunting.

    What it would seem to be here I would hazard to guess is a case of suicidal ideation, not suicidalness per se. But I could be wrong, and she could be a person who will really kill herself. Who knows?
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      CommentAuthorZ
    • CommentTimeFeb 12th 2008
     (978.9)
    And more importantly, who cares?

    That's a serious question. If any one did, really, they'd track her down. She doesn't strike me as an internet ninja, there's always a way.

    Truth is, no one does. Hopefully the people in her real life will find a way to reach her. Really by talking about this at all, the lesser two of three evils are winning out: if it is a project, it's generating buzz. If it's psychic vampirism, it's draining time and attention away from people.

    What it isn't doing is helping her at all.

    - Z
  4.  (978.10)
    That statement of intent is relentlessly self-indulgent. Even by blogging standards.

    I can think of a long list of people in my life who I'd rather were still vertical. An otherwise healthy young person opting out?

    Real or not, fuck her.
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      CommentAuthorZ
    • CommentTimeFeb 12th 2008 edited
     (978.11)
    @orwellseyes

    Amen to that. It would be a good and decent thing if the real people in her life dealt with her, but really, she's their problem. They can either fix it or let her implode in on herself. Either way, she shouldn't be spreading her poisonous bullshit on the internet without a warning label.

    * * *

    On another note, I did a bit of fictional blogging on a project some of you are familiar with. It was in a story format, and it was describing a suicidal someone who wasn't me, but there were a handful of people who didn't understand that. I went out of my way to resolve any concerns or doubts as to what the project was about, and that stories were just that- <em>stories</em>.

    While a big disclaimer and warning labels can take away artistic effect, there's a certain line you cross when you fuck with a subject like that and let it twist people's heartstrings. Granted, these people need to close their browser and realise it's all a big game to her, but if it *is* a project or 'art' she has a responsibility to her audience. That's my opinion.

    I'm sure there are people who disagree with me 'for the sake of art', but I can't buy that argument.

    - Z
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      CommentAuthorFauxhammer
    • CommentTimeFeb 12th 2008 edited
     (978.12)
    Buy it or not, if it is indeed a "new media fiction", then "BTW This is just a gag, if you or someone you know needs help, call 1-800-LIFE-SUX" would break the effect.

    If it's real, then I don't know what to say to the girl. Better luck next time?
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      CommentAuthorZ
    • CommentTimeFeb 12th 2008
     (978.13)
    You said:
    <blockquote>would break the effect.</blockquote>
    After I'd said:
    <blockquote>I'm sure there are people who disagree with me 'for the sake of art', but I can't buy that argument.</blockquote>

    When I did a story featuring a suicidal character, it was clear to the majority it was fiction. That didn't make it mean any less to anyone. And it isn't as if I led off with a disclaimer or 800 numbers.

    I think dismissing an audience's ability to apply suspension of disbelief is arrogant, and again- not able to withstand the criticism that if it were a good enough 'piece' or 'project', the fictional aspect wouldn't matter.

    - Z
    • CommentAuthorSolario
    • CommentTimeFeb 12th 2008
     (978.14)
    I've had to deal with enough bullshit from family members calling to tell me they're going to kill themselves on a semi-regular basis. I don't need to hear about it from anonymous people online either. More than just selfish, it's flat out sadistic.
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      CommentAuthorZ
    • CommentTimeFeb 12th 2008
     (978.15)
    @Solario

    Agreed. But I can't sit back and listen to the theory that it's 'art'. At some point you take responsibility for your words and actions, no matter how 'artistic' you think they might be.

    - Z
  5.  (978.16)
    @Solario- yup
    • CommentAuthorMathias B
    • CommentTimeFeb 12th 2008
     (978.17)
    Something about the whole deadline-thing feels weird to me. If you're tired of living, why wait 90 days? Of course, I'm not in her situation and so forth, but still... I agree that it seems like some kind of stunt. Done in poor taste.
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      CommentAuthorZ
    • CommentTimeFeb 12th 2008
     (978.18)
    @Mathias

    Good point.

    <em>(Is this thread dead yet?)</em>
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      CommentAuthorFauxhammer
    • CommentTimeFeb 12th 2008
     (978.19)
    As loathsome as I find Firefly, try this:

    http://90dayjayne.blogspot.com/
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      CommentAuthorCyman
    • CommentTimeFeb 12th 2008
     (978.20)
    Dead thread.
    Selfish suicide steals sans sorrow.