Whitechapel - DODGEM LOGIC Ends 2013-05-21T17:08:52-07:00 http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/ Lussumo Vanilla & Feed Publisher DODGEM LOGIC Ends http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9791&Focus=291521#Comment_291521 2011-04-22T12:16:19-07:00 2013-05-21T17:08:52-07:00 warrenellis http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2 Did everyone catch this? What’s happening with Dodgem Logic at the moment is that with issue eight, which will be the next one to come out - a little bit later than normal, we’re sending it to ... Did everyone catch this?

What’s happening with Dodgem Logic at the moment is that with issue eight, which will be the next one to come out - a little bit later than normal, we’re sending it to print the middle of next month – issue eight will be the last issue for a while. This is because Dodgem Logic has been entirely funded with my money, and we have not yet managed to break even....
]]> DODGEM LOGIC Ends http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9791&Focus=291529#Comment_291529 2011-04-22T12:48:41-07:00 2013-05-21T17:08:52-07:00 oldhat http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=75 Aw hell, that's sad to hear. DODGEM LOGIC Ends http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9791&Focus=291535#Comment_291535 2011-04-22T13:21:17-07:00 2013-05-21T17:08:52-07:00 warrenellis http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2 Yeah. I've got to admit, I only bought the first few issues, and laziness, forgetfulness and headaches from some of the layouts stopped me from getting any more. I feel bad about that. I'd like to ...
Funny, really: I was thinking about magazines either before or at the same time as both Alan and Mark. I decided I didn't have the time or money because I'm still a writer first and anything that stopped me writing was going to make me sad or angry in the end. It's been weird, watching them take two of the paths I envisioned.]]> DODGEM LOGIC Ends http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9791&Focus=291536#Comment_291536 2011-04-22T13:42:34-07:00 2013-05-21T17:08:52-07:00 Oddcult http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=214 I stopped buying it due to a petty personal issue with one of the contributors whose name I didn't want to be in anything I owned. Shame, but still. The problem with it was that it tried to work ...
The problem with it was that it tried to work in the spirit and style of an underground zine but with the budget of a glossy. That was always going to be a bit of a money sink really. It's no big surprise that it didn't last, although it probably would have been okay with even a few pages of ads. But that's Alan. I suppose it lasted longer than Egomania though (anyone else remember that?).]]> DODGEM LOGIC Ends http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9791&Focus=291541#Comment_291541 2011-04-22T13:59:36-07:00 2013-05-21T17:08:52-07:00 jugrnot http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=3174 Well, this news is very depressing for someone who loved the magazine for the writing alone. It seemed as if every contributing writer was a master of the craft. It's hard to find a mag with the same ... DODGEM LOGIC Ends http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9791&Focus=291543#Comment_291543 2011-04-22T14:11:05-07:00 2013-05-21T17:08:52-07:00 Karibou http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=9767 @warrenellis Would you be interested in having Alan Moore's Unearthing Boxset ? I did buy it but i can't understand his accent, it's so damn frustrating (i'm a frog myself)... Just an idea, if you ... I did buy it but i can't understand his accent, it's so damn frustrating (i'm a frog myself)...
Just an idea, if you want to trade it with me, anything but money you'll think it worth the deal would be fine with me...]]> DODGEM LOGIC Ends http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9791&Focus=291544#Comment_291544 2011-04-22T14:23:30-07:00 2013-05-21T17:08:52-07:00 warrenellis http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2 @warrenellis Would you be interested in having Alan Moore's Unearthing Boxset ? I already own a copy, but thank you. @warrenellis Would you be interested in having Alan Moore's Unearthing Boxset ?

I already own a copy, but thank you.]]> DODGEM LOGIC Ends http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9791&Focus=291547#Comment_291547 2011-04-22T14:50:08-07:00 2013-05-21T17:08:52-07:00 Karibou http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=9767 Allright, i'll keep it then, that's the problem with learning english from american fiction, you're not able to understand properly any UK resident... To say a word about dodgem, i bought the ...
To say a word about dodgem, i bought the first 2 issues and stopped for the same reasons you explained, i liked the concept though and it's sad that a project that Mr Moore's believe in had to stop this way.
If i was Mr Gibbons i think i'll offer to put a little bit of the watchmen movie money in it without telling Moore who would refused it if he knew where the money came from^^]]> DODGEM LOGIC Ends http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9791&Focus=291550#Comment_291550 2011-04-22T15:04:31-07:00 2013-05-21T17:08:52-07:00 warrenellis http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2 I suppose it lasted longer than Egomania though (anyone else remember that?). Eddie Campbell's magazine? Never found a copy. I suppose it lasted longer than Egomania though (anyone else remember that?).

Eddie Campbell's magazine? Never found a copy.]]> DODGEM LOGIC Ends http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9791&Focus=291558#Comment_291558 2011-04-22T16:09:05-07:00 2013-05-21T17:08:52-07:00 Oddcult http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=214 I was a good boy and pre-ordered it. To be cruel but fair, that pretty much traded off the Alan Moore link too. His face was on the front of the first issue and there was a giant interview with him ... DODGEM LOGIC Ends http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9791&Focus=291560#Comment_291560 2011-04-22T16:20:11-07:00 2011-04-22T16:25:49-07:00 HEY APATHY! http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=9019 and headaches from some of the layouts stopped me from getting any more x that by 20 for the DODGEM site ( it's beautifully weird but damn difficult ) I was thinking about magazines either ... and headaches from some of the layouts stopped me from getting any more

x that by 20 for the DODGEM site ( it's beautifully weird but damn difficult )


I was thinking about magazines either before or at the same time as both Alan and Mark. I decided I didn't have the time or money because I'm still a writer first and anything that stopped me writing was going to make me sad or angry

I think you already discovered the best way to do both - publisher/editor/writer extrodinaire of a Magazine called WARREN ELLIS DOT COM , and you don't even have to pay you're contributors!!!]]> DODGEM LOGIC Ends http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9791&Focus=291564#Comment_291564 2011-04-22T16:54:31-07:00 2013-05-21T17:08:52-07:00 warrenellis http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2 warrenellis.com is a lot of things, I'm sure, but a magazine it ain't. DODGEM LOGIC Ends http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9791&Focus=291577#Comment_291577 2011-04-22T19:45:46-07:00 2013-05-21T17:08:52-07:00 HEY APATHY! http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=9019 maybe not literally but it serves very much the same purpose; creating, expunging, & sharing information in an attempt to enlighten the reader (you know like Seventeen & Vogue do) anyhow I ... DODGEM LOGIC Ends http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9791&Focus=291579#Comment_291579 2011-04-22T19:58:13-07:00 2011-04-22T19:58:56-07:00 Alan Tyson http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1299 I don't think Alan Moore is being held back by a small internet presence anymore than a pencil is held back by a lack of bluetooth connectivity. I'm curious to watch the artifictization of copies ...
I'm curious to watch the artifictization of copies of Dodgem Logic, as intact copies dwindle in number. It's not a new observation that in the age of everything being available online, something which is not becomes an almost fetishistic object - Alan Moore's reputation, and that of DL's contributors, can only add to that.]]> DODGEM LOGIC Ends http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9791&Focus=291583#Comment_291583 2011-04-22T21:09:45-07:00 2013-05-21T17:08:52-07:00 William Joseph Dunn http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2798 count me as another one who only bought the first few issues. DODGEM LOGIC Ends http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9791&Focus=291586#Comment_291586 2011-04-22T23:08:52-07:00 2013-05-21T17:08:52-07:00 indysleaze http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2104 I bought them all, but then I live in Northampton and the magazine increasingly became about my town. I'm also friends with a few of the contributors but that's by the by. I think it was a brave move ... DODGEM LOGIC Ends http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9791&Focus=291588#Comment_291588 2011-04-23T00:03:47-07:00 2013-05-21T17:08:52-07:00 cbkof http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=8811 I had the first six issues mailed to me in Vancouver. The Steve Aylett pieces and Astounding Weird Penises justified the entire effort for me. If memory serves there were also helpful things about ... DODGEM LOGIC Ends http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9791&Focus=291591#Comment_291591 2011-04-23T03:10:10-07:00 2011-04-23T03:19:29-07:00 HEY APATHY! http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=9019 I don't think Alan Moore is being held back by a small internet presence anymore than a pencil is held back by a lack of bluetooth connectivity. I don't really either at all but (devil's ... I don't think Alan Moore is being held back by a small internet presence anymore than a pencil is held back by a lack of bluetooth connectivity.

I don't really either at all but (devil's advocate) didn't his print magazine just die while Whitechapelains continue to multiply?]]> DODGEM LOGIC Ends http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9791&Focus=291593#Comment_291593 2011-04-23T03:31:57-07:00 2013-05-21T17:08:52-07:00 Jeff Owens http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1150 Sad news. I've picked them all up. I haven't finished them all, but I like what I've read. My favorite quote from the interview: I notice that more and more these days, if I do the odd signing ...
My favorite quote from the interview:

I notice that more and more these days, if I do the odd signing or public appearance, the audience is about fifty percent women, the people in the queues are about fifty percent women, and that’s tremendous, that’s the real progress since I entered the industry.
]]> DODGEM LOGIC Ends http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9791&Focus=291595#Comment_291595 2011-04-23T03:57:10-07:00 2013-05-21T17:08:52-07:00 moali http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1430 Its a shame, as I was buying it for the Aylett shenanigans.. DODGEM LOGIC Ends http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9791&Focus=291596#Comment_291596 2011-04-23T04:00:03-07:00 2013-05-21T17:08:52-07:00 warrenellis http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2 I don't really either at all but (devil's advocate) didn't his print magazine just die while Whitechapelains continue to multiply? If you'd read the link, you'd see that the intent was for it to ... I don't really either at all but (devil's advocate) didn't his print magazine just die while Whitechapelains continue to multiply?


If you'd read the link, you'd see that the intent was for it to mostly migrate to the web. And Whitechapelains do NOT continue to multiply, I'm afraid.]]> DODGEM LOGIC Ends http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9791&Focus=291637#Comment_291637 2011-04-23T14:20:41-07:00 2011-04-23T14:22:23-07:00 HEY APATHY! http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=9019 I read it (twice now thanks to the accusation) and I think that Alan basically said exactly what I’m saying: What we’re doing after that is we will be putting original content up on the ...
What we’re doing after that is we will be putting original content up on the website, which we’re redesigning to make it more user-friendly, ’cause it was very pretty before, but not necessarily easy for people to use. It was a bit fussy and complicated, so on a lot of people’s computers there was a lot of delay time,

I think Alan is saying his initial approach is was mistake (holding him back?) and an online presence would be a stronger force ( works for freakangels) Was the mag intended for communicating ideas to a major audience or was it meant to be

an almost fetishistic object ?

@Whitechapelains do NOT continue to multiply, I'm afraid.

Warren you are to modest- this place is working & growing & communicative & accessible & sociologically significant, but you might have competetion if Alan get's his online arse together.]]> DODGEM LOGIC Ends http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9791&Focus=291649#Comment_291649 2011-04-23T15:15:06-07:00 2011-04-23T15:15:33-07:00 joe.distort http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=1173 I bought them all, but then I live in Northampton and the magazine increasingly became about my town. thats why i only bought the first 3. i flipped through later ones and it didnt appear to be ... I bought them all, but then I live in Northampton and the magazine increasingly became about my town.

thats why i only bought the first 3. i flipped through later ones and it didnt appear to be much to really interest me. they were a little pricey so i didnt want to keep it up, and i sold them on ebay for about what i paid...turns out it was a whitechapel fellow (which one? i honestly dont remember right now).

that ASTOUNDING WEIRD PENISIS mini that alan drew was totally mad.]]> DODGEM LOGIC Ends http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9791&Focus=291650#Comment_291650 2011-04-23T15:23:10-07:00 2013-05-21T17:08:52-07:00 Beamish http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=8236 I've read a few, I never felt cool enough and didn't really 'understand' much of it. I wouldn't be too concerned about a Moore forum overtaking Whitechapel as he doesn't have an existing online ...
I wouldn't be too concerned about a Moore forum overtaking Whitechapel as he doesn't have an existing online presence, in comparison to Warren. We're safe.]]> DODGEM LOGIC Ends http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9791&Focus=291651#Comment_291651 2011-04-23T15:24:55-07:00 2013-05-21T17:08:52-07:00 warrenellis http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2 I think Alan is saying his initial approach is was mistake He is quite clearly saying only that the website needs a redesign. At no point does he state an opinion that print was a mistake. ... I think Alan is saying his initial approach is was mistake

He is quite clearly saying only that the website needs a redesign. At no point does he state an opinion that print was a mistake.

this place is working & growing & communicative & accessible & sociologically significant

It is really none of those things.]]> DODGEM LOGIC Ends http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9791&Focus=291657#Comment_291657 2011-04-23T15:54:13-07:00 2013-05-21T17:08:52-07:00 Andrew_H http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=10271 it's more inreresting to me than most forums. DODGEM LOGIC Ends http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9791&Focus=291674#Comment_291674 2011-04-23T19:51:07-07:00 2013-05-21T17:08:52-07:00 HEY APATHY! http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=9019 At no point does he state an opinion that print was a mistake. Yeah he's really just saying that he made a lot of mistakes with print, I guess it's just me thinking that the online route is a ... At no point does he state an opinion that print was a mistake.

Yeah he's really just saying that he made a lot of mistakes with print, I guess it's just me thinking that the online route is a more appropriate way to communicate probably because I am unable to afford magazines and would like to think that other poor or unsuspecting users might also be exposed to the wonderful weirdness. Alan is certainly getting hip to this stuff though, I'm excited to see the redesign


It is really none of those things

you're funny, if I was a giant parrot with a face as pretty as Julian Sands' I'd have no choice but to fall aggressively in love with you.]]> DODGEM LOGIC Ends http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9791&Focus=291742#Comment_291742 2011-04-24T12:13:49-07:00 2013-05-21T17:08:52-07:00 warrenellis http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=2 you have no idea how much i want to make you die right now DODGEM LOGIC Ends http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/comments.php?DiscussionID=9791&Focus=291762#Comment_291762 2011-04-24T13:56:29-07:00 2011-04-24T14:08:58-07:00 HEY APATHY! http://freakangels.com/whitechapel/account.php?u=9019 I am honored by that comment dear sir I am honored by that comment dear sir]]>