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    • CommentAuthorRenThing
    • CommentTimeApr 17th 2014
     (9805.1)
    @Fishelle

    My thoughts:
    She never made it on that boat. Hurt by his rejection, she's going to lash out at him by turning against him.
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    HBO's arbitrary changes continue to annoy me. I manage to contain myself most of the time, however this article hits the nail on the head.

    Spoilers abound, of course, and rape triggers too. Woohoo. :|
    • CommentAuthorWood
    • CommentTimeApr 21st 2014 edited
     (9805.3)
    And then you learn
    that GoT Director Alex graves doesn't think it was rape
    (source)

    Oh, well, that makes it okay then, I guess.

    Oh, and icing on the cake :

    Game of Thrones star Sophie Turner films rape scene in front of parents
    The young actress had, meanwhile, been assured by the director that the scene would be “choreographed like a ballet” and would be “beautiful.”


    Beautiful, beautiful rape.

    Why am I still watching this show, again ?
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      CommentAuthorJ.Brennan
    • CommentTimeApr 21st 2014 edited
     (9805.4)
    @Magnus, etc:
    That was a pretty brutal scene to be sure, but it didn't vary as much from the book as people are saying. The Jezebel article somehow glosses over the bit in the book excerpt where Cersei blatantly says:
    "No," she said weakly when his lips moved down her neck, "not here. The septons…"

    "The Others can take the septons." He kissed her again, kissed her silent, kissed her until she moaned. Then he knocked the candles aside and lifted her up onto the Mother's altar, pushing up her skirts and the silken shift beneath. She pounded on his chest with feeble fists, murmuring about the risk, the danger, about their father, about the septons, about the wrath of gods. He never heard her.

    That's rape. The only big change, it seems to me, is on the show it's More explicitly rape and can't be hand-wrung away as Cersei consenting if only to get it over and done with.

    I also have a hard time with the people who didn't bat an eyelash when Jaime casually threw a seven year old child out of a tower One of those isn't really worse than the other, they're both abominable acts. As charming as Jaime is, as much as he strives to be better, he isn't ever truly a good man.
    • CommentAuthorandycon
    • CommentTimeApr 22nd 2014
     (9805.5)
    And something only a few people point out, that section of the book is from Jamie's POV so it is going to paint him a a better light because he is telling it and if THATS the best he can do then it must have been pretty bad
  2.  (9805.6)
    To echo what I said elsewhere, what I'm starting to feel is that the series writers don't really get the source material too well at times, especially when it comes to stuff like this. They seem to see it as a vehicle to turn everything to 11, make it even more x-treme and edgy, more titties and sex, full speed ahead and fuck the icebergs (and everything else on the way), while revealing quite icky connotations about how they handle this sort of material. So, there's now two strikes with turning something disturbing yet consensual in the original material into something quite rapey. I'm getting a sour taste, and wondering if I'll bother waiting for strike three.
    • CommentAuthorRenThing
    • CommentTimeApr 23rd 2014
     (9805.7)
  3.  (9805.8)
    So...Littlefinger's back and plotting away. That's interesting. And intimidating.
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    He's getting a bit villain-monologue happy though. Think he needs Varys to balance him out.
    • CommentAuthorRenThing
    • CommentTimeMay 5th 2014
     (9805.10)
    Maybe I'm wrong, and it has been a while since I read that particular book but
    wasn't the detail revealed last night that it was Littlefinger who got Lysa to poison Jon Arryn and blame the Lannisters
    a bit of a spoiler?

    Not to mention the big spoiler from last week's episode of
    Night's King being revealed to still be alive and behind the White Walkers
    .

    GG, HBO, GG
  5.  (9805.11)
    No. That was revealed in Feast for Crows, iirc. In exactly the same way.
    • CommentAuthorRenThing
    • CommentTimeMay 5th 2014
     (9805.12)
    Must be misremembering then.
    • CommentAuthorflecky
    • CommentTimeMay 17th 2014
     (9805.13)
    That was a good ending to that last episode - trial by combat, indeed.
    • CommentAuthorRenThing
    • CommentTimeMay 17th 2014
     (9805.14)
    Oi, flecky, welcome back.

    Yeah, and if tonight follows the end of that particular plotline
    we're going to be hearing a LOT more bitching about cool characters getting whacked. But, to be fair, I complained bitterly when we came to this part of the book.
    • CommentAuthorRenThing
    • CommentTimeMay 18th 2014
     (9805.15)
    Well, things are certainly moving along at quite a clip.

    What do you think of the current buddy-cop relationship between Arya and the Hound?
    • CommentAuthorflecky
    • CommentTimeMay 19th 2014
     (9805.16)
    Ta, mate.

    I've grown to like their relationship, and I'm interested to see where it will go. Damn, that episode seemed to go quickly, which is always a good sign.
  6.  (9805.17)
    My new prediction for the end of the show:
    Littlefinger defeats the white walkers by building an impassable wall of dead major characters
  7.  (9805.18)
    Wowzers. Even knowing it was coming, the Trial by Combat sure kicked things up a notch.
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    • CommentAuthorflecky
    • CommentTimeJun 3rd 2014
     (9805.20)
    Jesus! That was brutal.

    *smokes fag with jaw on ground*