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    @oddbill
    Agreed, to just all of it.
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    Oddbill -- That's mean! Why would you lie to RenThing like that?
    • CommentAuthorRenThing
    • CommentTimeJun 4th 2012
     (9805.363)
    It's not nice to torture someone in the thread they made! That's a rule, isn't it? Or something? Argh!
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      CommentAuthorjohnjones
    • CommentTimeJun 4th 2012
     (9805.364)
    @ RenThing

    This is a Game of Thrones thread on Whitechapel. Why in the name of the Old Gods would you expect there to be niceness here?
    • CommentAuthorRenThing
    • CommentTimeJun 4th 2012
     (9805.365)
    Point well taken.
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      CommentAuthorJ.Brennan
    • CommentTimeJun 4th 2012
     (9805.366)
    @RenThing: I will unclarify: There were TWO coins!
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    There is a coin, but it's behind your ear. WAKKA WAKKA WAKKA
  8.  (9805.368)
    Wait... didn't she receive 30 pieces of silver from Tywin?
    Are those the coins you meant?
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      CommentAuthorFoamhead
    • CommentTimeJun 5th 2012
     (9805.369)
    (Is this a spoiler? No, because it's just an image and doesn't give any story away. But it shows something which is a bit of a good reveal point in the last episode and might ruin someone's enjoyment.)

    Shitfuckwankingbollocks. It's just a funny image. If you haven't seen the end of season 2 yet, ignore it. If you have, copy n paste away.

    http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m53suooN7D1qk2w7to1_500.gif
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      CommentAuthordorkmuffin
    • CommentTimeJun 5th 2012
     (9805.370)
    @Oddbill, I agree with most of that, but I think that, overall, the way the Hound's storyline was handled was bullshit. He was, far and away, one of the more interesting characters in the book and they totally wrote off most of his character development in some little monologue Pieter Baelish gives in the first season. But again, that's just me going BUT I HAVE THIS PART OF THE BOOK I LOVE AND YOU'VE INSULTED ME FOREVER BY NOT INCLUDING IT, HBOOOOOO.
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      CommentAuthoroddbill
    • CommentTimeJun 5th 2012
     (9805.371)
    Heh, I feel a little bit the same way about the show's handling of Hot Pie.

    Hot Pie in the books is this tragically scrawny, cringing, paranoid little survivor. Even he hero (Arya) has an amount of mocking contempt for him, while still making him part of her imaginary wolfpack. He tries to talk tough, but everyone calls him Hot Pie because that's what he used to shout in the streets of Kings Landing, to sell his mommy's pies, before she died. He is this heartbreaking Dickensian orphan that no one gives any love, and he so desperately clings to any moment of safety, but none o the POV characters recognize this and we as readers are left to infer all this in the edges of what w read, which makes it even sadder.

    The show has made him a dopey, pudgy tag along.

    This is not my Hot Pie.
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      CommentAuthordorkmuffin
    • CommentTimeJun 6th 2012
     (9805.372)
    This is not my beautiful wife!

    Letting the days go by...
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    Someone clear something up, eh? Just watched episode 10 -- spoilery spoileriness follows.


    ...Who torched Winterfell? Was it the Pyke lot on the way out (in which case, where were the 500 men outside)? Or was it that bunch wot dunnit?

    Are we supposed to know/understand at this point?
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      CommentAuthordorkmuffin
    • CommentTimeJun 6th 2012
     (9805.374)
    Spoilers to follow!!!!

    Welp, it's not clear. In the BOOK it's clear, but in the episode (I won't spoil the book) they don't make it clear who does it.

    The 500 men outside are men who are following Roose Bolton (a Stark Bannerman), led by his bastard (the bastard of Bolton! He's more important in the books than in this series so far. Boooo). Robb Stark has conversations with Roose Bolton about this a few times in the show, but not enough for it to reallllly be clear that his bastard is protecting Winterfell. WHich is a shame, because as I understand it, one of the books I haven't read yet is all about the Boltons.

    Also, (MOAR SPOILERS) did you all understand that Qhorin Halfhand wanted Jon Snow to kill him? In the book they make that way more clear, to the point where Snow and Qhorin have a small moment where Qhorin tells him to kill him so he can get in with the Wildlings.

    However, if you hadn't read the book, I could see that bit being confusing.
    • CommentAuthorArgos
    • CommentTimeJun 6th 2012 edited
     (9805.375)
    ^^Yes-ish. They could have made it more clear that Halfhand wanted Snow to kill him. At first I could tell he wanted to rile up Jon Snow, but I wasn't sure if it specifically to get killed by him or to just make Jon Snow snap in general, so I was left a bit confused when it happened, thinking "I think that's what he wanted but not entirely sure." Thins for clearing it up :)

    Also, re: Bolton and his bastard, from my perspective, the show made it seem like he's supposed to be protecting Winterfell, since that's what Bolton is offering, it just didn't make it clear (to me at least) whether it was genuine or just some kind of trickery.
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      CommentAuthordorkmuffin
    • CommentTimeJun 6th 2012
     (9805.376)
    MOAR SPOILERS:

    Yeah, the issue is that Jon Snow is supposed to understand this. He doesn't like it, but HE IS HONOR-BOUND LIKE HIS FATHER so he does what must be done.
    • CommentAuthorArgos
    • CommentTimeJun 6th 2012
     (9805.377)
    ah, got it. yeah in the show he didn't seem to get it, which I suppose might be what they were going for - that he didn't get it until it was done.
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    Caroline -- I read the book, but can you please remind me who burnt Winterfell down? (Please hide it with a spoiler tag in case people don't want to know.)
    Thanks!
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      CommentAuthordorkmuffin
    • CommentTimeJun 6th 2012
     (9805.379)
    @Warped Savant,

    The bastard of Bolton.


    I had to double check with my boyfriend & the Song of Ice and Fire wiki.
  20.  (9805.380)
    Ah, yes, okay. Now I remember. Thanks again.

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